So Who here is really in the know on the vaccine? I need SOLID EVIDENCE why we should not take any of the vaxes?

That's a great attitude. Take some shot unless we already know it's very bad for you. Why not eat paint? Are we sure that's bad for us, or do we just suspect it?

There are reports cropping up of bad results from these shots, already.

Your household member shouldn't take anyone's word for it, but wait at least 6 months. By then we might see people having lots of bad results and then they can see it for themselves.

There seems to be some "Fear of Missing Out" (FOMO) regarding this vaccination/shot. Join the trend, do the thing so you can feel good about what you tell your friends!

FOMO is exactly the wrong attitude at this moment. Wait. Wait. Once you have the shot you can never un-have it.

Well, it's my son. Just found out he took the first shot of Maderna. I am just devastated.

If they are serious about saving lives they should be pushing the God and Jesus New Jerusalem Calendar plan to unite all nations and end all wars and save lives plus be healthy with good paying jobs that have good vacation time. They should do this first to prove they are serious about saving lives. Then since everyone will be healthy they can stop trying to push their experimental vaccines and masks on everyone.

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If he's young and strong he's probably fine

these mRNA ones seem to exaggerate people's pre-existing conditions

it's more of a catch 22, if your immune system and constitution are weak you shouldn't take it and if you're strong you don't need it

is he open to taking supplements? you could get him some liver cleanse pills, those are always good to take to help the body clean itself out

The best reason not to take the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines is that they may alter your DNA.

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The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is made from a cloned cell line descending from a fetal human aborted in 1985. Also, the J&J vaccine is less than 80% effective.

In general: None of the vaccines have actually been approved by the FDA. All of them are still considered experimental, and have been given only emergency approval--which is ordinarily given only if no effective treatment is available.

In actual fact, an entire range of effective treatments is available.
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I'm not taking it because of the whole funky bunch that's behind it all. These jokers are EVIL,lying, murderous, greedy,power hungry thieves, that don't give a damn about me or you. The psychopaths of our world are up to their eyebrows in this shit. The media, big tech, corporations,the censorship, the falsehoods, the politization... I could go on
These satanic, nasty, evil, buttholes telling me to get this experimental medical device injected into my cells?

Just look at these 3 murdering, lying, deceiving, douche bags



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This is where I would put a disgusted Clint Eastwood gif.

Now,... don't even get me started about the shitty "vaccine"

I know their end game.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Probably the most ancient and solid principle, once enshrined in the Hippocratic Oath: "Do no harm."

No collateral damage, no side effects, and zero adverse reactions in a million.

The result of ignoring a solid principle: Knackered Vaxxers.

Bingo!!!

Anyone questioning what you've stated, would be shilling cold cat shit.

Bravo!!!!!!

If forced, do you know which vaccine is the least threat to our immune systems?

I mean, I am not going to take the ones requiring 2 shots, or the sub zero stuff.

Hell, what choice is there? They are trying to force this into our systems by fear peer pressure on citizens and business to the point of no return.

Hm,...

IF forced to comply for any reason, which vaccine would you take.

Defiantly not take SCI Fi mRNA crap.

Hell, you cant even sue manufacture for health care if fucks you up beyond hope in the future.

Just what sweet madness is all this????????????

Proof of what OP?

It's NOT a 'vaccine'. I repeat, it's NOT a 'vaccine'.

You wanna pump yourself with mRNA experimental drugs then go for it.

Until the virus is isolated and a REAL vaccine is created from NATURE, it's NOT a vaccine.

But you are so long gone even asking the question because you don't see the other issues -

1. Masks
2. Contact tracing
3. Vaccines
4. IDs (for eCommerce, work, school etc.)

You are blind and nobody here is going to change your mind. Not sure why you're even here.

The simple reason they are telling you that your health is their passion!??
These globalist pushing their poison are all eugenicist and all behind the georgia guidestones! So the same folks wanting to cull the population down to a more manageable 500 million are the same ones now wanting to cure you from a cold. If your waiting for stronger or more conclusive evidence your in danger of being a day late and a dollar short!

If they want to take the vaccine and are an adult, it's their business.

A lot of people have their ideas, nothing is proven. What makes me nervous is that this is new technology, the mRNA, that was rushed to market. In other trials for other disease states, it was not approved: HIV and Ebola for example. "The National Institude of Health claims joint ownership of Moderna's vaccine." Search that. It will lead to an Axios article.

There are things about the methodology that I am not clear on. An mRNA is injected into the body. I assume a WBC will phagocized the foreign particle, either a PMN cell or a monocyte. Once in the cell the vaccine tricks the cells into producing the spike protein that is specific to the SARS 2. This time the WBC's attack the spike protein triggering the B lymphocytes to produce an antibody to the spike protein so that when the body is exposed again, it will have immunity. PMNs have a 24 hour lifespan. Monocytes have a 10 day lifespan. The B lymph lives for years. So hopefully the cells producing the spike proteins will quickly die. I believe the vaccine also contains something that will stop action of the initial mRNA. That is my understanding of how the vaccine works.

My question is what if the mRNA gets into a muscle, fat, or nerve cell that does not die so quickly? My other question concerns the spike protein that the body is producing which is what attaches to ACE2 receptor sites so the virus can enter the cell. What effect might that have on the body?

If it makes you feel any better, I have a friend who works in a research lab that modifies plant DNA. She took the vaccine and she probably understands the technology a lot better than me. I know about 5 people who have taken the Moderna and 1 who has taken the J&J and no one has had a severe reaction. 3 of them have somewhat serious medical conditions.

I am waiting for the old technology, the attenuated virus. I read somewhere it will not be approved until 2023. So an old technology is taking 2 years longer to complete trials than a new untried technology? That doesn't make sense to me.

It just hit me that they are all black.

There might be some things to do to inhibit the making of hook proteins, and he can avoid the 2nd shot, if you convince him.

Here's a site discussing damage control.

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All four vaccines were created 30 yrs ago and not used because they used to know it wasn't safe?

J&J encodes the mRNA into a benign virus to produce the spike proteins. It is one injection and does not have to be kept at what -90 degrees F. Please provide a link to the fetal tissue part.

This is just crazy chaos time indeed.

No one should be aloud to push these drugs at this point

"Leader's/Authoritarians " must be out of their natural human minds.

Aye, there's the rub.

Why do you need other peoples to give you evidences ? Can't you do your own research ? That's what most peoples do. Stop swallowing everything the mm's spewing out and look at it yoursef.

Thank you for posting.
How long do you think the effects of the mRNA will stay in system?

OP want to know where I stopped reading?

“I want SOLID evidence why I should NOT take the baddest”


How about you provide us with SOLID evidence covid EXISTS. I mean actual death certificates, insurance payouts, match obituaries. For each death I will need the EXACT amount of cycles the PCR test ran.

Do that for 200k deaths and maybe I’ll believe you...

Until then all I see is bullshit numbers, bull shit tests, bull shit data manipulation, bill shit vaccines trying to usher in a trans humanist society while also sterilizing the greater population.

You don’t have shit. You have what has happened to you in this life..

You get covid? You almost die? There are plenty, PLENTY of treatments better than an emergency use vaccine...

Masks forgot about those..

FFS...

Not a single thing with covid is 100% provable...

This whole thread is a big fat bait thread

Thank You for those points. I agree with you. I do not plan to take the vax. I am now trying to convince my son not to take the second vax.

18 reasons why this person won't take the vaccine

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Where's solid evidence it's safe?

Where's solid evidence they ever had to use the cells of dead children?

People have blindly trusted these people for far too long. The opioid crisis and and Pfizer pleading guilty to felony charges for lying about their drugs should have been red flags for people long ago.

"WASHINGTON – American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together "Pfizer") have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from the illegal promotion of certain pharmaceutical products, the Justice Department announced today."
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Literal felon drug dealers!

Or ask the former Pfizer VP.

EXCLUSIVE - Former Pfizer VP: "Why is my government lying to me?" "Because they are going to kill you."
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All I can say, is we warned you guys for a full year on all this, take it at your own peril.

You, need to pay attention to the whole thread. All of those things you speak of I am very well aware of. I agree, it is all about control. It's about I believe killing us all. I am not blind. I just have not seen "Until tonight" hard evidence against the vax. I was not planning to take it because I do not trust anyone even near these vaccines. Yet, I am correct to want to know what medical or scientific evidence is available to counter these stupid vaxes. I have done research and I have listened to others in the know. Yet, I have not seen hard studies against it. Again, until tonight. So, don't read so much into my question that I have not put in there.

The former chief science officer for pfizer just said it was depopulation vector. If you want to get it you deserve what happens lol

Uh? Wait, does anyone on this forum understand that?

From what I can interpret that is a study on a virus that causes bronchitis in poultry. They are trying to alter the virus (er, no, I did not catch what they were doing to alter the virus) but what does that have to do with an mRNA vaccine?