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fasting vs eating many small meals, which is better?

 
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BB'ers use diuretics & other drugs to achieve their looks and also burn more calories than they take in around contest time.

No question.....fasting for sure. Unless you eat 6 "meals" that total less than the calories you burn in a day but even then fasting is better because of all of the benefits that come with it like stem cell productions, gut & cellular healing, liver fat drainage, HGH production increase, hormone balancing, etc, etc, etc.
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I'm a fifty year old woman. I barely freaking eat. Lol! Yogurt, almonds, meat, salads, gluten free crackers, avocados.
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Have you ever counted your calories? We have some crackers that are very high in calories, so are avocado's, meats and almonds. Yogurt can be too if it's not weighed. My meats are only fish (white fish is lowest in calories) and boneless skinless chicken breast and egg whites mostly with a yolk daily. You should get a food scale and write down a food log and see how much you are getting in daily to maintain your weight. And then slowly cut calories from there, you can build muscle and lose fat at the same time.


30 grams of walnuts is almost 200 calories. Almonds are very high in calories too.

You really don't have to eat much to get in too many calories. I know a lot of people that say they don't eat much and have trouble losing. Those calories sneak in to healthy foods the most. If I eat an avocado it's only 50 grams which is 80 calories. A whole avocado can be close to 400 calories.

Look into low calorie dense foods.

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I'm a fifty year old woman. I barely freaking eat. Lol! Yogurt, almonds, meat, salads, gluten free crackers, avocados.
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Have you ever counted your calories? We have some crackers that are very high in calories, so are avocado's, meats and almonds. Yogurt can be too if it's not weighed. My meats are only fish (white fish is lowest in calories) and boneless skinless chicken breast and egg whites mostly with a yolk daily. You should get a food scale and write down a food log and see how much you are getting in daily to maintain your weight. And then slowly cut calories from there, you can build muscle and lose fat at the same time.


30 grams of walnuts is almost 200 calories. Almonds are very high in calories too.

You really don't have to eat much to get in too many calories. I know a lot of people that say they don't eat much and have trouble losing. Those calories sneak in to healthy foods the most. If I eat an avocado it's only 50 grams which is 80 calories. A whole avocado can be close to 400 calories.

Look into low calorie dense foods.
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Very true. I try to be careful, but, yeah, I'm not actually measuring.
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each one has to montior their own body, and make changes accordingly
most people are not the same. i think

one like to fast a few days no biggy
one like to eat a meall here and there

i personally like to pigg the fuchhggjk out all day. and say. fuckkj. it
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Very true. I try to be careful, but, yeah, I'm not actually measuring.
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Measuring makes a huge difference and don't trust labels that say 3 pieces or 40 grams are a serving. Only go by the grams those are most accurate. I weigh and write down everything I eat, I don't use an app. some people do but keeping a diary is easier for me, it keeps me more accountable.

this is yesterday and today. I stopped at 500 calories yesterday because I went out to dinner and knew I was going to pack in 1,000 easy.

that's 250 grams salad and 50 grams oatmeal this morning, i know what I mean lol. and that's fat free ranch and sf bbq sauce.

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Not even close fasting by a mile.
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Eat one meal per day. Low carb. Live long and prosper.
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Body builders can't be wrong when they eat 5/6 small meals a day with the least body fat %. I've never seen a faster look that good either.

My metabolism also speeds up when I eat more often. The digestion keeps the body warm as well, shut it down for an extended period of time body will be cold and start storing calories for energy.

People that fast might find some health benefits if they are older and not very active. Fasting has put me over the edge with energy and not being able to sleep at night when I did 1 meal a day. My body was in starvation mode wanting to hunt for food but it was just down the hall in the kitchen and I could not control that primal instinct with a refrigerator available.

Eating 5 small meals a day has me sleeping like a baby, 9-10 hours a night, feeling very warm and still energized without feeling like a meth head. Maybe some people like that meth feeling.

I'm sure it's different for everyone but I've tried both and I'm never hungry or hangry this way. My mood is more stable probably because hormones aren't swaying from one extreme to another. I've heard fasting isn't good for women either because of the hormones. It seemed to be that way for me at least.
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our bodies are doing one of two things at all times...its either DIGESTING or its DETOXIFYING.
it doesnt do both at the same time.
when you eat, your body stops detoxyifying and begins digesting.


also, scientists found that rats who were fed LESS lived much longer than the rats who ate as much as they wanted.
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if you want to eat little meals all day long, go for it.

it might just work well for you especially if you have a lot of exercise and work to accomplish.

i found when i was working out, i became much more hungry than when i wasnt.
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I just want to be lean. Not ripped but tone and elongated. When I work out I bulk up. When I ease up, it goes straight to flab. Additionally, working out increases my cortisol and depletes my B vitamins. I get edgy and depressed. WTF!? Can anyone explain that?
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Everyone is different. Follow what your body needs. And follow your body type. We can only be who we are. We can’t be anyone else.
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I'm a fifty year old woman. I barely freaking eat. Lol! Yogurt, almonds, meat, salads, gluten free crackers, avocados.
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Have you ever counted your calories? We have some crackers that are very high in calories, so are avocado's, meats and almonds. Yogurt can be too if it's not weighed. My meats are only fish (white fish is lowest in calories) and boneless skinless chicken breast and egg whites mostly with a yolk daily. You should get a food scale and write down a food log and see how much you are getting in daily to maintain your weight. And then slowly cut calories from there, you can build muscle and lose fat at the same time.


30 grams of walnuts is almost 200 calories. Almonds are very high in calories too.

You really don't have to eat much to get in too many calories. I know a lot of people that say they don't eat much and have trouble losing. Those calories sneak in to healthy foods the most. If I eat an avocado it's only 50 grams which is 80 calories. A whole avocado can be close to 400 calories.

Look into low calorie dense foods.
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Very true. I try to be careful, but, yeah, I'm not actually measuring.
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And our bodies change as we get older. Menopause really changes us. Easier to put on weight. Watch the salt in your diet. That can pack on fluid weight. Eat more whole foods. Put down the salt shaker. Maybe fast for 12 hours. And eat about 4 times during the other 12 hours.
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This brother completely destroys the benefits and wisdom of his message by marrying a foreign, caucasian woman.

How can you spend your life optimizing your body just to throw it all away and start from the beginning in the next generation?

Someone above said it right, his genetics play a large role in his success. But his wife's genetics are TERRIBLE so his kids, if he has them, will have to start all over again. Talk about ignorance and hustling backwards!!
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Many small meals are horrible because you are producing insulin constantly.................


can you say diabetes?


Dr. Berg has a good, short tube' on it.

Lots of vids, here is one

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Body builders can't be wrong when they eat 5/6 small meals a day with the least body fat %. I've never seen a faster look that good either.

My metabolism also speeds up when I eat more often. The digestion keeps the body warm as well, shut it down for an extended period of time body will be cold and start storing calories for energy.

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Opps, looks like you’ve misunderstood or someone else has lead you astray. There are a few misunderstanding here I’m afraid.

The body stores fat calories only when insulin is high. That is an absolute fact!
The body burns fat only when insulin is low. That is an absolute fact, too!
Carbohydrates ( therefore glucose) cause insulin to go high.

On a fast, insulin goes low, and you start to burn fat. It cannot store fat until insulin goes high. So your idea that a cold fasting body stores energy is wrong.

Bodybuilders burn off excess carbohydrates daily which removes glycogen/ glucose, and causes insulin to go low. When insulin is low, body fat is burned off. Their diet is high protein , low carbohydrate. They are lean because the higher the muscle mass, the more energy is used up, which coupled with the diets puts them in a low insulin situation for the majority of the day and during the night. That is why they are lean, not because of 5/6 meals a day.

Fasting more than two days will put most people into ketosis. On the 3rd day of fasting the body produces increasing numbers of stem cells to enact repairs. It also starts a detox of the liver, fats in the liver are burned off and toxins stored in those fats of the liver are expelled through the skin, breath and into bile that goes into the stomach and then on out through the colon. During this initial start of fasting the person will have mild flu like symptoms. That is why people on the start of a fast look unwell and have bad breath. Start with a 1 day fast, then next fast try for 2 days. Gradually build it up every 3 weeks. Those who get to day 6 of a fast will have large amounts of energy and vitality restored to their body.

Fasting can make you very sick, if you are very ill! Your body can only deal with so many toxins in one hit. You need to listen to your body and only increase the number of days of fasting,as you start to heal. Many toxins are fat soluble and stored in fat. If you do not have antioxidants to deal with the toxins, the body will slow down the burn of fat to a minimum. This is when you really start to have really low energy when fasting. It’s also the reason people plateau when losing weight. They need more antioxidants ( vit c, glutathione are a good choice) to ensure their body can deal with the toxins from fat burning. They also need carbohydrates to be low enough that thet are all used up during daily exercise ensuring a move to low insulin, fat burning mode. This is how you get high metabolism. High levels of antioxidants, carbohydrate consumption lower than daily energy use, and aerobic exercise to fully oxygenate the body. Also only eat carbohydrates at a time you know you will doing sufficient exercise to burn these off before going to bed. This way your body is in fat burning mode all night.

It’s like running a marathon. You don’t just say I’m going to run a marathon, and then immedaiely run and walk for 26 miles instantly, without training and building up to 26 miles. If you observe someone doing this, you would conclude running a marathon is extremely unhealthy! Similarly, far too many people do a ‘marathon style’ fast on their first attempt, and fail miserably.

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Body builders can't be wrong when they eat 5/6 small meals a day with the least body fat %. I've never seen a faster look that good either.

My metabolism also speeds up when I eat more often. The digestion keeps the body warm as well, shut it down for an extended period of time body will be cold and start storing calories for energy.

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Opps, looks like you’ve misunderstood or someone else has lead you astray. There are a few misunderstanding here I’m afraid.

The body stores fat calories only when insulin is high. That is an absolute fact!
The body burns fat only when insulin is low. That is an absolute fact, too!
Carbohydrates ( therefore glucose) cause insulin to go high.

On a fast, insulin goes low, and you start to burn fat. It cannot store fat until insulin goes high. So your idea that a cold fasting body stores energy is wrong.

Bodybuilders burn off excess carbohydrates daily which removes glycogen/ glucose, and causes insulin to go low. When insulin is low, body fat is burned off. Their diet is high protein , low carbohydrate. They are lean because the higher the muscle mass, the more energy is used up, which coupled with the diets puts them in a low insulin situation for the majority of the day and during the night. That is why they are lean, not because of 5/6 meals a day.

Fasting more than two days will put most people into ketosis. On the 3rd day of fasting the body produces increasing numbers of stem cells to enact repairs. It also starts a detox of the liver, fats in the liver are burned off and toxins stored in those fats of the liver are expelled through the skin, breath and into bile that goes into the stomach and then on out through the colon. During this initial start of fasting the person will have mild flu like symptoms. That is why people on the start of a fast look unwell and have bad breath. Start with a 1 day fast, then next fast try for 2 days. Gradually build it up every 3 weeks. Those who get to day 6 of a fast will have large amounts of energy and vitality restored to their body.

Fasting can make you very sick, if you are very ill! Your body can only deal with so many toxins in one hit. You need to listen to your body and only increase the number of days of fasting,as you start to heal. Many toxins are fat soluble and stored in fat. If you do not have antioxidants to deal with the toxins, the body will slow down the burn of fat to a minimum. This is when you really start to have really low energy when fasting. It’s also the reason people plateau when losing weight. They need more antioxidants ( vit c, glutathione are a good choice) to ensure their body can deal with the toxins from fat burning. They also need carbohydrates to be low enough that thet are all used up during daily exercise ensuring a move to low insulin, fat burning mode. This is how you get high metabolism. High levels of antioxidants, carbohydrate consumption lower than daily energy use, and aerobic exercise to fully oxygenate the body. Also only eat carbohydrates at a time you know you will doing sufficient exercise to burn these off before going to bed. This way your body is in fat burning mode all night.

It’s like running a marathon. You don’t just say I’m going to run a marathon, and then immedaiely run and walk for 26 miles instantly, without training and building up to 26 miles. If you observe someone doing this, you would conclude running a marathon is extremely unhealthy! Similarly, far too many people do a ‘marathon style’ fast on their first attempt, and fail miserably.
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thank you zebster
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The body stores fat calories only when insulin is high. That is an absolute fact!
The body burns fat only when insulin is low. That is an absolute fact, too!
Carbohydrates ( therefore glucose) cause insulin to go high.
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I have to stop here because you are unaware insulin is anabolic hormone. lol
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Many small meals are horrible because you are producing insulin constantly.................


can you say diabetes?


Dr. Berg has a good, short tube' on it.

Lots of vids, here is one

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"Dr." Berg is a chiropractor and has snake oil to sell.

my a1c is 4.8 I believe its the amount of food consumed and not used as energy that causes that diabetes. Some people have limited number of fat cells, once they reach that capacity people start getting higher blood sugar because there is no extra cells to store the energy and it starts circulating in the blood and damaging organs. There is no standard weight for diabetes, it varies depending on the fat cells a person can produce. I've seen very fat people that don't have diabetes and my dad that is only 5'9" and 150 that has diabetes 2. He doesn't have the fat cells. If he built some muscle that will all go away but he's too old for that now without hormones.

Dr Berg is just selling stuff to lazy people.

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With many small meals I am never satiated and always hungry.

With intermediate fasting I can eat until I'm full? I can have a full big meal and enjoy myself. It's great!
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I do cardio on an empty stomach but I need carbs before lifting weights otherwise I poop out. And whoever said you can do keto and lift is a liar. I did a super high fat meal before lifting a couple months ago and I had to stop or else I was going to puke. fucking ruined my day.
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Never eat a meal before lifting..Blood goes to your stomach to digest food..Then you try and move it around by exercising or lifting weights?? No way Don't do it.
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or you could do like Pipher..Put some "Red Bull" in a saucer and relax..
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Thanks A.C. 825 ... Ahh grasshopper ... ( couldn't resist ) ... I have been eating one meal a day for two years ... I am 55 yr. old male ...
The change has been dramatic ... I went from being a pot bellied older man to a lean 125 lb. rock hard bundle of energy ... I feel like I did in High School ... I work hard everyday lifting 10-40 lbs. ... 8-10 hrs. a day at work ...
I also eat real food ... grass fed beef , sardines , and greens ... like kale, spinach and collard greens ... also legumes: also called pulse ( in the Bible ) ... take care of Your Temple ...
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I do cardio on an empty stomach but I need carbs before lifting weights otherwise I poop out. And whoever said you can do keto and lift is a liar. I did a super high fat meal before lifting a couple months ago and I had to stop or else I was going to puke. fucking ruined my day.
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Never eat a meal before lifting..Blood goes to your stomach to digest food..Then you try and move it around by exercising or lifting weights?? No way Don't do it.
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I usually wait an hour after I eat for the insulin to be released too.
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lol grass fed sardines.
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I know you didn't say that but I accidentally read it like that.
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I do cardio on an empty stomach but I need carbs before lifting weights otherwise I poop out. And whoever said you can do keto and lift is a liar. I did a super high fat meal before lifting a couple months ago and I had to stop or else I was going to puke. fucking ruined my day.
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I lost a lot of weight on Keto and was sick the whole fucking time... never again.
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Very true. I try to be careful, but, yeah, I'm not actually measuring.
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Measuring makes a huge difference and don't trust labels that say 3 pieces or 40 grams are a serving. Only go by the grams those are most accurate. I weigh and write down everything I eat, I don't use an app. some people do but keeping a diary is easier for me, it keeps me more accountable.

this is yesterday and today. I stopped at 500 calories yesterday because I went out to dinner and knew I was going to pack in 1,000 easy.

that's 250 grams salad and 50 grams oatmeal this morning, i know what I mean lol. and that's fat free ranch and sf bbq sauce.

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Chastidy... consider too much control will fuck it all up and you might get mental addiction to it.
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I lost a lot of weight on Keto and was sick the whole fucking time... never again.
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Yeah, it's really hard to digest all that fat. My husband almost puked yesterday because I fried bread battered eggs in butter for him, too much butter and he couldn't eat for the rest of the day.

I like to control my fat intake. I think that's easier and healthier when we choose only good fats. Lots of keto people think it's their ticket to eat all sorts of fat. blah. I only eat fish, walnuts, cod liver oil supplements and yolks, some dairy occasionally.


Chastidy... consider too much control will fuck it all up and you might get mental addiction to it.
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Thanks for your concern! My doctor is aware that I am attempting to build strength in my body and this is a good way to keep track of what I am eating and the results I get lifting weights from it. So far this breakfast has given me the most strength and I can lift heavier an hour after I eat this.
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