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Harvard-MIT admits in NEW study mRNA vaccines will permanently alter your DNA

 
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harvard-mit studies are ones we USED to pay attention to
Now, unfortunately for them, we know they are PAID to bring attention to their studies.

At least they are finally bringing truth out.

Took you fuckers long enough.

harvard....haha....isn't that where obummer "graduated" from?? haha....what a bunch of losers who think they are the "elite" of the world because they attended those schools.

NO. It was because of WHO YOU KNEW that you got in there, not because you were ANYthing special.....ijs......

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I have had both shots.

I am not afraid. I'm going to die anyway! Science is not a "saviour", that's just silly. Respect for knowledge and understanding is just part of evolution.


Please show me such an article from those who have expertise in the fields of study. I think you are trying to fudge semantics in an effort to discredit me.

What "genetic" experiment?
 Quoting: RationalOne


Um, the mRNA one you just took. The one that is going to make your entire body become a spike-protein production plant. That won't elicit an immunity to the virus. Fauci's own words.
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mRNA is experimental. It hasn't even completed phase III trials. It was rushed through the FDA under an emergency act, not based on any real scientific studies that present the short-term or long-term side-effects.

The NIH even says it's experimental and only prevents symptoms.
[link to www.nih.gov (secure)]

So you saying this will give you antibodies and protect you from infection or spreading covid is entirely wrong and you are misinforming other people encouraging them to take an experimental vaccine that has a greater chance of injuring them than the virus itself.

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The 1976 H1N1 only injured ~1700 people where as this is already in excess of injuring 50,000.

This is what it did to the Animals tested.
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 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I guess what we are discussing here is a difference between an "immune response" or an "immune system response". The immune system responds with a response to create the proteins. I am NOT saying the vaccine creates antibodies in the traditional sense. It's certainly an evolution in treatment. But to act like this science is dangerously new, is silly.

That is not a reason to be afraid.

I found this:

How mRNA Vaccines Work
mRNA is a piece of genetic material that cells use as "instructions" to create certain proteins in the body. It is like a bit of computer code.

When it's not inside a cell, mRNA needs protection to keep it from disintegrating. This is why the vaccines require cold temperature storage. To keep the mRNA from disintegrating when it enters the body, the COVID-19 vaccines use fat bubbles to shuttle the mRNA to certain cells.

The mRNA instructs these cells to create "spike proteins." These proteins simulate part of the SARS-CoV-2 (novel coronavirus) cell structure and trick the body into believing it's infected with the virus.

In the case of the mRNA vaccines, your body is never exposed to the germ but is still able to produce an effective immune response.


The creation of the proteins IS the response.
 Quoting: RationalOne


How and when and by what method is this "response" turned off?

Your body produces these spike proteins forever in anticipation of some attack by the virus? What are the long-term ramifications of this?
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Genetic mutations from viruses have been suspected of resulting in inherited immunity from ancestors who survived things like smallpox. This is not an unknown concept. This doesn't prove the mRNA/DNA mutation theory but does indicate it is not unusual for a virus alone to cause genetic mutation.

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Isn't the J and J jab a true
Vaccine? I'm scheduled for
mine Monday. Any thoughts?

I've been holding off till
J and J was in my area.
 Quoting: jures


I think the J&J "vaccine" is even worse because it unloads it's payload straight into the nucleus of the cell. And the target mRNA for covid spikes is made by your DNA and then sent out to be transcribed. The others, the synthetic mRNA, it's payload unloads in the cytoplasm where it get's transcribed.

[link to cvvr.hms.harvard.edu (secure)]

This one, to me, is really scary cause it works directly with your DNA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781814


You have it backward..the jnj uses dna which makes the mrna which encodes for the spike protein. With mrna, the mrna is injected and encodes for the spike protein. In both cases, our body makes the viral protein. Jnj injects dna via adenovirus and moderna/pfizer injects already synthesied mrna....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79848822


You are essentially saying the same thing. The JnJ uses an adenovirus to invade your cell's nucleus at which point it unloads SARS-COV-2 DNA. That portion of DNA is coded to generate mRNA coded for spike protein creation, those mRNA leave the nucleus into the cytosome to create the spikes.

What I am unaware of is whether or not the injected DNA attaches or writes itself into to your cell's genome. What I do know is if you are immune compromised, your immune system may not be able to kill off all your cells that have been hijacked to create spikes. Thus those cells will create spikes until they are killed.
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After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

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Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76735334


"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful
 Quoting: RationalOne


Read the entire article and not just take snippets of it to disparage the author.

He makes clear at the end of the article:

” I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA, and I didn’t make this claim in my first article, although it appears that troll sites made the fallacious claim that I did. I simply asked the question, and provided hypothetical, plausible molecular pathways by which such an event could occur. I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable. It most certainly deserves closer inspection and testing to rule this possibility out, and I would hope that a rigorous and comprehensive test program would be instituted with the same enthusiasm that propelled the vaccine haphazardly through the normal safety checkpoints.”

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 Quoting: Zovalex



I wasn't criticizing the author. I am pointing out that those who use studies like this expect that no one will read it through. I'm pointing out, as did the author, that it's being used to troll the gullible. I disagree with his use of the word "probable" and agree that we need to watch the science.

What is it I wrote is in conflict? And the article is right there for all to read. Do I have to spoonfeed background before I post a quite FROM the study? I'm not following how you are trying to gig me. I quoted the same source you did!

It is STILL a "study". There is a long way to go before it's accepted science theory.
 Quoting: RationalOne


I would not assume people won't read through or even flip to the back to the "conclusions" section.

You disagree with the word "probable" -- on what basis?
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After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

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Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
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I guess what we are discussing here is a difference between an "immune response" or an "immune system response". The immune system responds with a response to create the proteins. I am NOT saying the vaccine creates antibodies in the traditional sense. It's certainly an evolution in treatment. But to act like this science is dangerously new, is silly.

That is not a reason to be afraid.

I found this:

How mRNA Vaccines Work
mRNA is a piece of genetic material that cells use as "instructions" to create certain proteins in the body. It is like a bit of computer code.

When it's not inside a cell, mRNA needs protection to keep it from disintegrating. This is why the vaccines require cold temperature storage. To keep the mRNA from disintegrating when it enters the body, the COVID-19 vaccines use fat bubbles to shuttle the mRNA to certain cells.

The mRNA instructs these cells to create "spike proteins." These proteins simulate part of the SARS-CoV-2 (novel coronavirus) cell structure and trick the body into believing it's infected with the virus.

In the case of the mRNA vaccines, your body is never exposed to the germ but is still able to produce an effective immune response.


The creation of the proteins IS the response.
 Quoting: RationalOne


How and when and by what method is this "response" turned off?

Your body produces these spike proteins forever in anticipation of some attack by the virus? What are the long-term ramifications of this?
 Quoting: Pukeko


Realize that Rational One is parroting what he has been told, that the mRNA vax makes your body "able to produce an effective immune response".

Big Pharma shill wordsmiths will move the goal post when you ask "what do you consider to be EFFECTIVE"?

Yet the trials were not designed to determine for certain whether or not the immune response generated to the VAX was or was not responsible for the level of symptoms of the participants who went on to test positive for Covid. They did not have large enough cohorts, enough longitude to the study, nor adequate controls to determine this, but it was an emergency don't you know?

And how do they prove whether a vaccinated person's natural innate and adaptive immune systems were not the primary cause of resisting infection or keeping symptoms to a minimum if infected?

They say that because the body tested positive for antibodies for the spikes created by the mRNA jab, that any metric observed going forward is attributable solely to the vaccine.

The CDC even changed the definition of "herd immunity" on their website by editing out the term "natural immunity" and keeping "vaccine induced immunity" as the sole means to create herd immunity.

They are evil. As are their shills.
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Isn't the J and J jab a true
Vaccine? I'm scheduled for
mine Monday. Any thoughts?

I've been holding off till
J and J was in my area.
 Quoting: jures


I think the J&J "vaccine" is even worse because it unloads it's payload straight into the nucleus of the cell. And the target mRNA for covid spikes is made by your DNA and then sent out to be transcribed. The others, the synthetic mRNA, it's payload unloads in the cytoplasm where it get's transcribed.

[link to cvvr.hms.harvard.edu (secure)]

This one, to me, is really scary cause it works directly with your DNA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76781814


You have it backward..the jnj uses dna which makes the mrna which encodes for the spike protein. With mrna, the mrna is injected and encodes for the spike protein. In both cases, our body makes the viral protein. Jnj injects dna via adenovirus and moderna/pfizer injects already synthesied mrna....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79848822


You are essentially saying the same thing. The JnJ uses an adenovirus to invade your cell's nucleus at which point it unloads SARS-COV-2 DNA. That portion of DNA is coded to generate mRNA coded for spike protein creation, those mRNA leave the nucleus into the cytosome to create the spikes.

What I am unaware of is whether or not the injected DNA attaches or writes itself into to your cell's genome. What I do know is if you are immune compromised, your immune system may not be able to kill off all your cells that have been hijacked to create spikes. Thus those cells will create spikes until they are killed.
 Quoting: Herr Decider


For those who do not know what an adenovirus is:

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

This helps to explain why the vaccinated with such viruses are actually Super Spreaders.

Thread: ANOTHER DOCTOR CONFIRMS WE ARE IN TROUBLE.

No wonder why on the medical side of things in America why an all out civil war is inevitable. Very soon indeed we will never know who is vaccinated/gene altered. It will be considered highly wise and good to kill any children you find and/or finds you in real life.

After all nearly all children these days are forcibly vaccinated. They are super spreaders once they are vaccinated. However, it will be just as important to kill any human unless if you can confirm that they are unvaccinated. Otherwise... you will need to kill even the human adults.

Where we are all going in real life is to a horrifying scenario where noone but the Illuminati will be the ultimate winners. The rest of us will be living increasingly more desperate times with no real respite and/or meaningful peace for the rest of your life. No wonder why it is so very important to follow and reach Yeshua/Jesus Christ the best you can.
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I guess what we are discussing here is a difference between an "immune response" or an "immune system response". The immune system responds with a response to create the proteins. I am NOT saying the vaccine creates antibodies in the traditional sense. It's certainly an evolution in treatment. But to act like this science is dangerously new, is silly.

That is not a reason to be afraid.

I found this:

How mRNA Vaccines Work
mRNA is a piece of genetic material that cells use as "instructions" to create certain proteins in the body. It is like a bit of computer code.

When it's not inside a cell, mRNA needs protection to keep it from disintegrating. This is why the vaccines require cold temperature storage. To keep the mRNA from disintegrating when it enters the body, the COVID-19 vaccines use fat bubbles to shuttle the mRNA to certain cells.

The mRNA instructs these cells to create "spike proteins." These proteins simulate part of the SARS-CoV-2 (novel coronavirus) cell structure and trick the body into believing it's infected with the virus.

In the case of the mRNA vaccines, your body is never exposed to the germ but is still able to produce an effective immune response.


The creation of the proteins IS the response.
 Quoting: RationalOne


How and when and by what method is this "response" turned off?

Your body produces these spike proteins forever in anticipation of some attack by the virus? What are the long-term ramifications of this?
 Quoting: Pukeko


Realize that Rational One is parroting what he has been told, that the mRNA vax makes your body "able to produce an effective immune response".

Big Pharma shill wordsmiths will move the goal post when you ask "what do you consider to be EFFECTIVE"?

Yet the trials were not designed to determine for certain whether or not the immune response generated to the VAX was or was not responsible for the level of symptoms of the participants who went on to test positive for Covid. They did not have large enough cohorts, enough longitude to the study, nor adequate controls to determine this, but it was an emergency don't you know?

And how do they prove whether a vaccinated person's natural innate and adaptive immune systems were not the primary cause of resisting infection or keeping symptoms to a minimum if infected?

They say that because the body tested positive for antibodies for the spikes created by the mRNA jab, that any metric observed going forward is attributable solely to the vaccine.

The CDC even changed the definition of "herd immunity" on their website by editing out the term "natural immunity" and keeping "vaccine induced immunity" as the sole means to create herd immunity.

They are evil. As are their shills.
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Experimental fast tracked mRNA DNA ''vaccine''.

I'm amazed so many people subjected themselves to this poison.

It's a tragedy of epic proportion perpetrated against mankind.
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How long to you think this technology has been researched?

Are you suggesting that this technology was just whipped up over the last year?

Please learn the complete history of this subject, which you don't seem to have ANY understanding of.

But, we all know fear sells...so...shill away!
 Quoting: RationalOne



I love how these morons ignore or are ignorant to the implications the new vaccines will have on cancer treatment. It opens up a whole new pathway for cancer treatment that doesn't involve poisoning yourself with platinum based treatments or radiation. Instead of loosing hair and going through horrible pain you'll have a fever for a day or two. But who am I kidding, these morons are the type to drink horse piss and call it a cancer cure.
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Cancer is entirely preventable through a healthy clean diet and living in a healthy environment, which is very difficult and almost impossible to do in our current system and environment.

The entire medical industry and cancer industry are huge scams. The typical American food supply is DESIGNED to give you cancer intentionally. As well as all the toxic chemicals in everything else and all the radiation, smart meters, 5G etc.

Chemo and other mainstream cancer treatments are designed intentionally to drain you of all your money and resources and then ultimately kill you, if not within a couple months of starting treatment, then within about 5 years (while they continue to drain your money) from the "treatments" destroying your body and immune system.

Both close family members of mine that died of cancer actually both died within 2 to 3 months of their diagnosis. They died from the "TREATMENT" (Chemo).
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I'm sorry to hear that about your family. I don't buy into the 5G theories. I defiantly believe some cancer is preventable, but others are not.

My mother died of ovarian cancer. She eventually ran out of treatment options. The treatments definitely prolonged her life, but there is only so many before the cancer becomes resistant and goes unchecked. It's great to have a new platform on the horizon to treat it.

Also, while I think the vaccines are safe, I don't trust J&J. Fuck them, they lied about baby powder, and it was likely a contributing factor to my mother's cancer. They can burn in hell, don't take their vaccine.

Experimental fast tracked mRNA DNA ''vaccine''.

I'm amazed so many people subjected themselves to this poison.

It's a tragedy of epic proportion perpetrated against mankind.
 Quoting: DancingThought


How long to you think this technology has been researched?

Are you suggesting that this technology was just whipped up over the last year?

Please learn the complete history of this subject, which you don't seem to have ANY understanding of.

But, we all know fear sells...so...shill away!
 Quoting: RationalOne



I love how these morons ignore or are ignorant to the implications the new vaccines will have on cancer treatment. It opens up a whole new pathway for cancer treatment that doesn't involve poisoning yourself with platinum based treatments or radiation. Instead of loosing hair and going through horrible pain you'll have a fever for a day or two. But who am I kidding, these morons are the type to drink horse piss and call it a cancer cure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56982450


Says the person who is ignorant as to the multitude of cancer treatments and actual cures available that have little to no side effect.

That ignorance makes you susceptible to the promise of the invasive geneticists in bio tech who rely on it to promise you the moon and line you up as lab rats.

Compartmentalization is a bitch. Enjoy your compartment if you can.
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Enlighten me. This new platform in the context of treating cancer would literally have no side effects besides feeling like you have a cold for 24 hours. How is that not a great thing and basically what you're describing.
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The CDC even changed the definition of "herd immunity" on their website by editing out the term "natural immunity" and keeping "vaccine induced immunity" as the sole means to create herd immunity.

They are evil. As are their shills.
 Quoting: Herr Decider


That's truly shocking, but no more shocking than a bunch of other things. I didn't know that one though.

Now we must vaccinate to reach "herd immunity" because otherwise it's something like "herd immunity" but not the real thing as they've just redefined it.
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I have had both shots.

I am not afraid. I'm going to die anyway! Science is not a "saviour", that's just silly. Respect for knowledge and understanding is just part of evolution.


Please show me such an article from those who have expertise in the fields of study. I think you are trying to fudge semantics in an effort to discredit me.

What "genetic" experiment?
 Quoting: RationalOne


Um, the mRNA one you just took. The one that is going to make your entire body become a spike-protein production plant. That won't elicit an immunity to the virus. Fauci's own words.
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mRNA is experimental. It hasn't even completed phase III trials. It was rushed through the FDA under an emergency act, not based on any real scientific studies that present the short-term or long-term side-effects.

The NIH even says it's experimental and only prevents symptoms.
[link to www.nih.gov (secure)]

So you saying this will give you antibodies and protect you from infection or spreading covid is entirely wrong and you are misinforming other people encouraging them to take an experimental vaccine that has a greater chance of injuring them than the virus itself.

[link to www.theburningplatform.com (secure)]

The 1976 H1N1 only injured ~1700 people where as this is already in excess of injuring 50,000.

This is what it did to the Animals tested.
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 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I guess what we are discussing here is a difference between an "immune response" or an "immune system response". The immune system responds with a response to create the proteins. I am NOT saying the vaccine creates antibodies in the traditional sense. It's certainly an evolution in treatment. But to act like this science is dangerously new, is silly.

That is not a reason to be afraid.

I found this:

How mRNA Vaccines Work
mRNA is a piece of genetic material that cells use as "instructions" to create certain proteins in the body. It is like a bit of computer code.

When it's not inside a cell, mRNA needs protection to keep it from disintegrating. This is why the vaccines require cold temperature storage. To keep the mRNA from disintegrating when it enters the body, the COVID-19 vaccines use fat bubbles to shuttle the mRNA to certain cells.

The mRNA instructs these cells to create "spike proteins." These proteins simulate part of the SARS-CoV-2 (novel coronavirus) cell structure and trick the body into believing it's infected with the virus.

In the case of the mRNA vaccines, your body is never exposed to the germ but is still able to produce an effective immune response.


The creation of the proteins IS the response.
 Quoting: RationalOne


How and when and by what method is this "response" turned off?

Your body produces these spike proteins forever in anticipation of some attack by the virus? What are the long-term ramifications of this?
 Quoting: Pukeko


In the same way that your body does not produce viruses for ever after getting infected by one. Viruses do the same thing. They pass MRNA that tell your ribosomes to produce more virus. When your body handles the virus and there are no more virus particles injecting your cells with MRNA the chain is broken.

When your body exhausts the MRNA from the shot, your body stops producing the spike protein.

At the end of the day all a virus is, is a container that carries MRNA to your cells to make more viruses. The vaccine is a truncated portion of the full MRNA that tells your cells to make the spike protein found on the virus.
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I love how these morons ignore or are ignorant to the implications the new vaccines will have on cancer treatment. It opens up a whole new pathway for cancer treatment that doesn't involve poisoning yourself with platinum based treatments or radiation. Instead of loosing hair and going through horrible pain you'll have a fever for a day or two. But who am I kidding, these morons are the type to drink horse piss and call it a cancer cure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56982450


Says the person who is ignorant as to the multitude of cancer treatments and actual cures available that have little to no side effect.

That ignorance makes you susceptible to the promise of the invasive geneticists in bio tech who rely on it to promise you the moon and line you up as lab rats.

Compartmentalization is a bitch. Enjoy your compartment if you can.
 Quoting: Herr Decider


Enlighten me. This new platform in the context of treating cancer would literally have no side effects besides feeling like you have a cold for 24 hours. How is that not a great thing and basically what you're describing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56982450


This "new platform" that you speak of does not exist yet.

The largely natural and non-invasive cures nearly all combine with changes in lifestyle and targeted nutrition that first halt the spread of the cancer and then gradually clean it up, and if the changes are maintained then the conditions that promote cancer do not return. Remission is practically unheard of in holistic oncology circles.

When I was helping my mother through cancer recently, I looked into the success rate of quick fixes like chemo. They do eradicate cancer generally, despite the horrific side effects.

All but 10% return within 10 or so years for most cancers.

There is no HARMLESS quick fix. And even this "new platform did provide one, if a person does not make changes, their body remains just as favorable for re-development, often more favorable due to the damage of "the cure".

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The poor children who will be injected and parent of newborns who will be affected the rest of their lives. They will not be normal.
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changes to dna are inherited - so the children and then their children and their children and so on - forever down the line will be changed
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GLP is full of retards. I'd bet less than 10% have even taken a college class.
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I love how these morons ignore or are ignorant to the implications the new vaccines will have on cancer treatment. It opens up a whole new pathway for cancer treatment that doesn't involve poisoning yourself with platinum based treatments or radiation. Instead of loosing hair and going through horrible pain you'll have a fever for a day or two. But who am I kidding, these morons are the type to drink horse piss and call it a cancer cure.
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Says the person who is ignorant as to the multitude of cancer treatments and actual cures available that have little to no side effect.

That ignorance makes you susceptible to the promise of the invasive geneticists in bio tech who rely on it to promise you the moon and line you up as lab rats.

Compartmentalization is a bitch. Enjoy your compartment if you can.
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Enlighten me. This new platform in the context of treating cancer would literally have no side effects besides feeling like you have a cold for 24 hours. How is that not a great thing and basically what you're describing.
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This "new platform" that you speak of does not exist yet.

The largely natural and non-invasive cures nearly all combine with changes in lifestyle and targeted nutrition that first halt the spread of the cancer and then gradually clean it up, and if the changes are maintained then the conditions that promote cancer do not return. Remission is practically unheard of in holistic oncology circles.

When I was helping my mother through cancer recently, I looked into the success rate of quick fixes like chemo. They do eradicate cancer generally, despite the horrific side effects.

All but 10% return within 10 or so years for most cancers.

There is no HARMLESS quick fix. And even this "new platform did provide one, if a person does not make changes, their body remains just as favorable for re-development, often more favorable due to the damage of "the cure".
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Last I knew, chemotherapy has over a 90% kill rate. This is to specifically mean it kills the human host, not the cancer.
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GLP is full of retards. I'd bet less than 10% have even taken a college class.
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You glorify college as though it is genuinely for higher education when it is not, AC. Good wild ad hominem attack. Cast a wide net. See how many people are foolish enough to give into emotionalism and/or worse as their idea of debating you on a strawman argument.
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by later this year, we'll find out what happens when somebody gets the jab, then gets pregnant and gives birth...

that should be informative one way or the other
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and that is fearmongering

Thank you for being represented, antivax!

Society evolves and we learn from our mistakes. Pioneers often make sacrifices for quest of the greater good. We shall see.

But, why just throw crap like this out there without providing any scientific reason to avoid getting the jab.

There is more to life than fear. It's so sad that so many live in this perpetual state of distrust and fear of each other.

Please show me the area of science where I should focus my attention as far as pregnancy and specific vaccines (Yes, it's a vaccine. It's an administered treatment that assists the body with an immune response. It's certainly a new TYPE of vaccine. But, it's a vaccine.).
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It doesn't elicit an immune response. Clearly states in numerous articles, and Falsey himself said it reduces symptoms only.

You will not be immunized from Covid with this shot, it is not a vaccine it is a genetic experiment.

But please go out and get it, both shots. Then the updates. Trust the science! It's your saviour!
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I have had both shots.

I am not afraid. I'm going to die anyway! Science is not a "saviour", that's just silly. Respect for knowledge and understanding is just part of evolution.


Please show me such an article from those who have expertise in the fields of study. I think you are trying to fudge semantics in an effort to discredit me.

What "genetic" experiment?
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You only die if you're lucky.
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It is not new and this garbage pre print paper has already be debunked.
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Link please. cow
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GLP is full of retards. I'd bet less than 10% have even taken a college class.
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I taught them for years. Does that count?
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After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

[link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

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"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful
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The european assessment group found major contamination of linearized DNA in the vaccinations; this is yet another pathway that could permanetly alter your genome. This contamination is a problem related to commercial scale that did not pose a problem in the clinical trials.....Basically the effetcs of mass produced mRNA, via bacterium....to be clear, it is not the bacterial dna but the dna which is making the rna before it is sythesized into mRNA....
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The quality of the mRNA in the pseudo vaccine is an issue, probably in all of them, but who the hell knows. Who does the quality control of this?

Concerns over integrity of mRNA molecules in some COVID-19 vaccines

by British Medical Journal - from 3/11/21
[link to medicalxpress.com (secure)]
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An enzime or other mechanism could facilitate the reverse transriptase of genetic material back into DNA from what I can gather.
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After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

[link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76735334


"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful
 Quoting: RationalOne


The european assessment group found major contamination of linearized DNA in the vaccinations; this is yet another pathway that could permanetly alter your genome. This contamination is a problem related to commercial scale that did not pose a problem in the clinical trials.....Basically the effetcs of mass produced mRNA, via bacterium....to be clear, it is not the bacterial dna but the dna which is making the rna before it is sythesized into mRNA....
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The quality of the mRNA in the pseudo vaccine is an issue, probably in all of them, but who the hell knows. Who does the quality control of this?

Concerns over integrity of mRNA molecules in some COVID-19 vaccines

by British Medical Journal - from 3/11/21
[link to medicalxpress.com (secure)]
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I will leave this here...

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If Invasion (2007) is anything to go by... I guess it will not be inaccurate to call everyone who has gotten their COVID-19 vaccinations and/or gene therapy shots "Pod People".
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After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

[link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
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Does the molecular pathway include reverse transcriptase?
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How is someone called RationalOne turn out to be such a blind fool?

No wonder that guy is deep in the red.
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I hope the moderna one doesn’t turn out to be harm versus a benefit. Honestly I am not anti science but when it comes down to it if this works will it have a negative result as a consequence?
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Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.


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