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Harvard-MIT admits in NEW study mRNA vaccines will permanently alter your DNA

 
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Harvard-MIT admits in NEW study mRNA vaccines will permanently alter your DNA
After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

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Nice article!
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I had to explain this to a woman when I said its not even a vaccine and she said " what is it " and I had to break the bad news that mRNA injects code into DNA programming every cell in the body to express the spike protein to get the body to produce antibodies .

And ended the explanation with once you get an mRNA gene therapy shot you are no longer human . You transform from human to genetically modified humanoid.


You should have seen her face as she'd gotten the shot .
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Still trust a vaccine from these lying sacks of globalist shit?
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Did I read that SARS(etc.) RNA can be transcribed into cells?

This is talking about the virus changing DNA, not the vaccine, right?

Sorry, would quote the article better, but I gotta leave soon.
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Did I read that SARS(etc.) RNA can be transcribed into cells?

This is talking about the virus changing DNA, not the vaccine, right?

Sorry, would quote the article better, but I gotta leave soon.
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no the mRNA shot itself transforms your DNA as it injects code manipulating your DNA to get your cells to express the spike protein .
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SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse transcribed in human cells by reverse transcriptase (RT) from LINE-1 elements or by HIV-1 RT, and that these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed. Human endogenous LINE-1 expression was induced upon SARS-CoV-2 infection or by cytokine exposure in cultured cells, suggesting a molecular mechanism for SARS-CoV-2 retro-integration in patients. This novel feature of SARS-CoV-2 infection may explain why patients can continue to produce...

viral RNA after recovery and suggests a new aspect of RNA virus replication.”

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Did I read that SARS(etc.) RNA can be transcribed into cells?

This is talking about the virus changing DNA, not the vaccine, right?

Sorry, would quote the article better, but I gotta leave soon.
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Its about the vaxx, and yes modified rna goes into cells and then Dna will try to fight it but will get assimilated in dna and it changes it irreversible.
After that it breaks your brain blood barrier, goes to brain and gives it the mad cow disease turning the human into a soulles zombie.
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Thread: Warp speed vax + narrative to explain speed of mass vaxxing. What's coming for us.
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This is an excellent article to save and show to those who make the claim that “it’s impossible for the mRNA vaccine to alter your DNA.”

This study certainly shows it’s exactly the opposite, that it CAN and very likely WILL permanently and irreversibly alter your DNA.

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It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
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-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

[link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
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"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful

Last Edited by RationalOne on 04/11/2021 09:58 AM
Claiming to be a "Christian" is not the same as acting like one. We see your hypocrisy, and it is painfully obvious.

The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.
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The poor children who will be injected and parent of newborns who will be affected the rest of their lives. They will not be normal.
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Re: Harvard-MIT admits in NEW study mRNA vaccines will permanently alter your DNA
After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

[link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
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"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful
 Quoting: RationalOne


Read the entire article and not just take snippets of it to disparage the author.

He makes clear at the end of the article:

” I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA, and I didn’t make this claim in my first article, although it appears that troll sites made the fallacious claim that I did. I simply asked the question, and provided hypothetical, plausible molecular pathways by which such an event could occur. I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable. It most certainly deserves closer inspection and testing to rule this possibility out, and I would hope that a rigorous and comprehensive test program would be instituted with the same enthusiasm that propelled the vaccine haphazardly through the normal safety checkpoints.”

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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The poor children who will be injected and parent of newborns who will be affected the rest of their lives. They will not be normal.
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There is a lot of that around here.

I sure wish we could have a metric to determine "normal" so we could further divide our civilization.
Claiming to be a "Christian" is not the same as acting like one. We see your hypocrisy, and it is painfully obvious.

The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.
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Re: Harvard-MIT admits in NEW study mRNA vaccines will permanently alter your DNA
After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

[link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76735334


"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful
 Quoting: RationalOne


Read the entire article and not just take snippets of it to disparage the author.

He makes clear at the end of the article:

” I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA, and I didn’t make this claim in my first article, although it appears that troll sites made the fallacious claim that I did. I simply asked the question, and provided hypothetical, plausible molecular pathways by which such an event could occur. I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable. It most certainly deserves closer inspection and testing to rule this possibility out, and I would hope that a rigorous and comprehensive test program would be instituted with the same enthusiasm that propelled the vaccine haphazardly through the normal safety checkpoints.”

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After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

[link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
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"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful
 Quoting: RationalOne


Read the entire article and not just take snippets of it to disparage the author.

He makes clear at the end of the article:

” I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA, and I didn’t make this claim in my first article, although it appears that troll sites made the fallacious claim that I did. I simply asked the question, and provided hypothetical, plausible molecular pathways by which such an event could occur. I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable. It most certainly deserves closer inspection and testing to rule this possibility out, and I would hope that a rigorous and comprehensive test program would be instituted with the same enthusiasm that propelled the vaccine haphazardly through the normal safety checkpoints.”

.
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I wasn't criticizing the author. I am pointing out that those who use studies like this expect that no one will read it through. I'm pointing out, as did the author, that it's being used to troll the gullible. I disagree with his use of the word "probable" and agree that we need to watch the science.

What is it I wrote is in conflict? And the article is right there for all to read. Do I have to spoonfeed background before I post a quite FROM the study? I'm not following how you are trying to gig me. I quoted the same source you did!

It is STILL a "study". There is a long way to go before it's accepted science theory.

Last Edited by RationalOne on 04/11/2021 10:13 AM
Claiming to be a "Christian" is not the same as acting like one. We see your hypocrisy, and it is painfully obvious.

The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.
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by later this year, we'll find out what happens when somebody gets the jab, then gets pregnant and gives birth...

that should be informative one way or the other
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GLPers knew this a year ago.
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by later this year, we'll find out what happens when somebody gets the jab, then gets pregnant and gives birth...

that should be informative one way or the other
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and that is fearmongering

Thank you for being represented, antivax!

Society evolves and we learn from our mistakes. Pioneers often make sacrifices for quest of the greater good. We shall see.

But, why just throw crap like this out there without providing any scientific reason to avoid getting the jab.

There is more to life than fear. It's so sad that so many live in this perpetual state of distrust and fear of each other.

Please show me the area of science where I should focus my attention as far as pregnancy and specific vaccines (Yes, it's a vaccine. It's an administered treatment that assists the body with an immune response. It's certainly a new TYPE of vaccine. But, it's a vaccine.).
 Quoting: RationalOne


It doesn't elicit an immune response. Clearly states in numerous articles, and Falsey himself said it reduces symptoms only.

You will not be immunized from Covid with this shot, it is not a vaccine it is a genetic experiment.

But please go out and get it, both shots. Then the updates. Trust the science! It's your saviour!
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Isn't the J and J jab a true
Vaccine? I'm scheduled for
mine Monday. Any thoughts?

I've been holding off till
J and J was in my area.
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After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

[link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)]

Any of you that took of this mark is no longer human. Your DNA has been changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76735334


"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful
 Quoting: RationalOne


Read the entire article and not just take snippets of it to disparage the author.

He makes clear at the end of the article:

” I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA, and I didn’t make this claim in my first article, although it appears that troll sites made the fallacious claim that I did. I simply asked the question, and provided hypothetical, plausible molecular pathways by which such an event could occur. I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable. It most certainly deserves closer inspection and testing to rule this possibility out, and I would hope that a rigorous and comprehensive test program would be instituted with the same enthusiasm that propelled the vaccine haphazardly through the normal safety checkpoints.”

.
 Quoting: Zovalex



I wasn't criticizing the author. I am pointing out that those who use studies like this expect that no one will read it through. I'm pointing out, as did the author, that it's being used to troll the gullible. I disagree with his use of the word "probable" and agree that we need to watch the science.

What is it I wrote is in conflict? And the article is right there for all to read. Do I have to spoonfeed background before I post a quite FROM the study? I'm not following how you are trying to gig me. I quoted the same source you did!

It is STILL a "study". There is a long way to go before it's accepted science theory.
 Quoting: RationalOne


Doctor Doug is not the first peer to review this paper. He just was not aware of others at the time of HIS review.

"It’s important to add that this paper is a pre-print that is not peer-reviewed yet; but I went through all of the data, methods, and results, and I see very little wrong with the paper, and some gaps that need closing- but, at least from the standpoint of being able to answer the question: can RNA from the coronavirus use existing cellular pathways to integrate permanently into our DNA? From that perspective, their paper is rock-solid. Also, please take note that these are respected scientists from MIT and Harvard."...

..."Through their experiments, they did not find full-length viral RNA integrated into genomic DNA; rather, they found smaller segments of the viral DNA, mostly representing the nucleocapsid (N) protein of the virus, although other viral segments were found integrated into human DNA at a lower frequency.

In this paper, they demonstrate that:

1) Segments of SARS-CoV-2 Viral RNA can become integrated into human genomic DNA.

2) This newly acquired viral sequence is not silent, meaning that these genetically modified regions of genomic DNA are transcriptionally active (DNA is being converted back into RNA).

3) Segments of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA retro-integrated into human genomic DNA in cell culture. This retro-integration into genomic DNA of COVID-19 patients is also implied indirectly from the detection of chimeric RNA transcripts in cells derived from COVID-19 patients. Although their RNAseq data suggests that genomic alteration is taking place in COVID-19 patients, to prove this point conclusively, PCR, DNA sequencing, or Southern Blot should be carried out on purified genomic DNA of COVID-19 patients to prove this point conclusively. This is a gap that needs to be closed in the research. The in vitro data in human cell lines, however, is air tight."...

..."I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA...

...it appears that this integration of viral RNA segments into our DNA is not as rare as I initially hypothesized. It’s difficult for me to put a number on the probability due to data limitations present in the paper, but based on the frequency they were able to measure this phenomenon in both petri dishes and COVID patients, the probability is much greater than I initially anticipated. Due to this current research, I now place this risk as a more probable event than my original estimation...

...I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable...
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The take away for an OBJECTIVE, RATIONAL person would be that yet another RISK FACTOR, and not a minor one, has been added to the long list of vaccine risks.

And that with all the scientifically proven COVID prophylactics and treatments that have little to no side effect, it is pure insanity to even suggest use of an unproven genetic therapy under "emergency use", let alone MANDATE it.

Insanity or malicious, reckless greed. Or both.
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by later this year, we'll find out what happens when somebody gets the jab, then gets pregnant and gives birth...

that should be informative one way or the other
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and that is fearmongering

Thank you for being represented, antivax!

Society evolves and we learn from our mistakes. Pioneers often make sacrifices for quest of the greater good. We shall see.

But, why just throw crap like this out there without providing any scientific reason to avoid getting the jab.

There is more to life than fear. It's so sad that so many live in this perpetual state of distrust and fear of each other.

Please show me the area of science where I should focus my attention as far as pregnancy and specific vaccines (Yes, it's a vaccine. It's an administered treatment that assists the body with an immune response. It's certainly a new TYPE of vaccine. But, it's a vaccine.).
 Quoting: RationalOne


It doesn't elicit an immune response. Clearly states in numerous articles, and Falsey himself said it reduces symptoms only.

You will not be immunized from Covid with this shot, it is not a vaccine it is a genetic experiment.

But please go out and get it, both shots. Then the updates. Trust the science! It's your saviour!
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I have had both shots.

I am not afraid. I'm going to die anyway! Science is not a "saviour", that's just silly. Respect for knowledge and understanding is just part of evolution.


Please show me such an article from those who have expertise in the fields of study. I think you are trying to fudge semantics in an effort to discredit me.

What "genetic" experiment?
Claiming to be a "Christian" is not the same as acting like one. We see your hypocrisy, and it is painfully obvious.

The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.
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Experimental fast tracked mRNA DNA ''vaccine''.

I'm amazed so many people subjected themselves to this poison.

It's a tragedy of epic proportion perpetrated against mankind.
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by later this year, we'll find out what happens when somebody gets the jab, then gets pregnant and gives birth...

that should be informative one way or the other
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and that is fearmongering

Thank you for being represented, antivax!

Society evolves and we learn from our mistakes. Pioneers often make sacrifices for quest of the greater good. We shall see.

But, why just throw crap like this out there without providing any scientific reason to avoid getting the jab.

There is more to life than fear. It's so sad that so many live in this perpetual state of distrust and fear of each other.

Please show me the area of science where I should focus my attention as far as pregnancy and specific vaccines (Yes, it's a vaccine. It's an administered treatment that assists the body with an immune response. It's certainly a new TYPE of vaccine. But, it's a vaccine.).
 Quoting: RationalOne


It doesn't elicit an immune response. Clearly states in numerous articles, and Falsey himself said it reduces symptoms only.

You will not be immunized from Covid with this shot, it is not a vaccine it is a genetic experiment.

But please go out and get it, both shots. Then the updates. Trust the science! It's your saviour!
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


I have had both shots.

I am not afraid. I'm going to die anyway! Science is not a "saviour", that's just silly. Respect for knowledge and understanding is just part of evolution.


Please show me such an article from those who have expertise in the fields of study. I think you are trying to fudge semantics in an effort to discredit me.

What "genetic" experiment?
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This should be fun.
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"To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly, that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA. In my opinion, more research is needed to both corroborate these findings, and to close some gaps."

The important parts, in red.

Let's not jump the gun, and by all means keep an eye on the science.

People but WAY too much faith in "studies". Do we all understand all of the variables? Doubtful
 Quoting: RationalOne


Read the entire article and not just take snippets of it to disparage the author.

He makes clear at the end of the article:

” I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA, and I didn’t make this claim in my first article, although it appears that troll sites made the fallacious claim that I did. I simply asked the question, and provided hypothetical, plausible molecular pathways by which such an event could occur. I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable. It most certainly deserves closer inspection and testing to rule this possibility out, and I would hope that a rigorous and comprehensive test program would be instituted with the same enthusiasm that propelled the vaccine haphazardly through the normal safety checkpoints.”

.
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I wasn't criticizing the author. I am pointing out that those who use studies like this expect that no one will read it through. I'm pointing out, as did the author, that it's being used to troll the gullible. I disagree with his use of the word "probable" and agree that we need to watch the science.

What is it I wrote is in conflict? And the article is right there for all to read. Do I have to spoonfeed background before I post a quite FROM the study? I'm not following how you are trying to gig me. I quoted the same source you did!

It is STILL a "study". There is a long way to go before it's accepted science theory.
 Quoting: RationalOne


Doctor Doug is not the first peer to review this paper. He just was not aware of others at the time of HIS review.

"It’s important to add that this paper is a pre-print that is not peer-reviewed yet; but I went through all of the data, methods, and results, and I see very little wrong with the paper, and some gaps that need closing- but, at least from the standpoint of being able to answer the question: can RNA from the coronavirus use existing cellular pathways to integrate permanently into our DNA? From that perspective, their paper is rock-solid. Also, please take note that these are respected scientists from MIT and Harvard."...

..."Through their experiments, they did not find full-length viral RNA integrated into genomic DNA; rather, they found smaller segments of the viral DNA, mostly representing the nucleocapsid (N) protein of the virus, although other viral segments were found integrated into human DNA at a lower frequency.

In this paper, they demonstrate that:

1) Segments of SARS-CoV-2 Viral RNA can become integrated into human genomic DNA.

2) This newly acquired viral sequence is not silent, meaning that these genetically modified regions of genomic DNA are transcriptionally active (DNA is being converted back into RNA).

3) Segments of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA retro-integrated into human genomic DNA in cell culture. This retro-integration into genomic DNA of COVID-19 patients is also implied indirectly from the detection of chimeric RNA transcripts in cells derived from COVID-19 patients. Although their RNAseq data suggests that genomic alteration is taking place in COVID-19 patients, to prove this point conclusively, PCR, DNA sequencing, or Southern Blot should be carried out on purified genomic DNA of COVID-19 patients to prove this point conclusively. This is a gap that needs to be closed in the research. The in vitro data in human cell lines, however, is air tight."...

..."I am not making the claim that an mRNA vaccine will permanently alter your genomic DNA...

...it appears that this integration of viral RNA segments into our DNA is not as rare as I initially hypothesized. It’s difficult for me to put a number on the probability due to data limitations present in the paper, but based on the frequency they were able to measure this phenomenon in both petri dishes and COVID patients, the probability is much greater than I initially anticipated. Due to this current research, I now place this risk as a more probable event than my original estimation...

...I believe this current research validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable...
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The take away for an OBJECTIVE, RATIONAL person would be that yet another RISK FACTOR, and not a minor one, has been added to the long list of vaccine risks.

And that with all the scientifically proven COVID prophylactics and treatments that have little to no side effect, it is pure insanity to even suggest use of an unproven genetic therapy under "emergency use", let alone MANDATE it.

Insanity or malicious, reckless greed. Or both.
 Quoting: Herr Decider


OF COURSE THERE ARE RISK FACTORS! No one says differently.

as there are with ALL medications/vaccines.

You're point?

And it's not "genetic therapy", at least not any more so than many other things we put in our bodies. I will avoid discussing this with those who cant understand this fact. Fearmongering by using the obvious average person's misunderstanding of science, is fucking evil.
Claiming to be a "Christian" is not the same as acting like one. We see your hypocrisy, and it is painfully obvious.

The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.
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Experimental fast tracked mRNA DNA ''vaccine''.

I'm amazed so many people subjected themselves to this poison.

It's a tragedy of epic proportion perpetrated against mankind.
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How long to you think this technology has been researched?

Are you suggesting that this technology was just whipped up over the last year?

Please learn the complete history of this subject, which you don't seem to have ANY understanding of.

But, we all know fear sells...so...shill away!
Claiming to be a "Christian" is not the same as acting like one. We see your hypocrisy, and it is painfully obvious.

The hypocrites go to "hell" also..Calling oneself a Christian, while letting yourself be owned by hate and fear while engaging in false witness, IS hypocrisy.
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by later this year, we'll find out what happens when somebody gets the jab, then gets pregnant and gives birth...

that should be informative one way or the other
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and that is fearmongering

Thank you for being represented, antivax!

Society evolves and we learn from our mistakes. Pioneers often make sacrifices for quest of the greater good. We shall see.

But, why just throw crap like this out there without providing any scientific reason to avoid getting the jab.

There is more to life than fear. It's so sad that so many live in this perpetual state of distrust and fear of each other.

Please show me the area of science where I should focus my attention as far as pregnancy and specific vaccines (Yes, it's a vaccine. It's an administered treatment that assists the body with an immune response. It's certainly a new TYPE of vaccine. But, it's a vaccine.).
 Quoting: RationalOne


There are many scientific reasons to avoid taking an unproven experimental neo-vaccine, especially one that has resulted in adverse reaction reports more than an order of magnitude greater in number than the reports for prior vaccines.

The most simple reasons are the results of studies in many countries demonstrating high efficacy of both prophylactic and symptom reducing treatments. Treatments proving so benign as to have little and normally no side effect (aka NO risk for those in the slow lane).

These treatments have been featured in thread reports on this website since last March, and the studies that eventually validated them reported on since last fall.

Some people have not done their homework. Is this misfeasance or malfeasance? Depends on the motivation of the person.

The same type of person has also either not discovered or purposely ignored the revelations regarding vaccine damage disclosed over the last 3 decades, revelations strong enough to provide win after win in vaccine court.

It's a cryin shame.
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And this is why you will see deaths. Some immediate, some delayed. In the end, it's kind of like Dolly the Sheep. Junk Science. cruisewuflu
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There are many scientific reasons to avoid taking an unproven experimental neo-vaccine
 Quoting: Herr Decider


NO! If you don't get the mRNA vaccine then you're a filthy covid monger and we won't rescue you from a volcanic island with our cruise ship, you damn dirty ape.
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