Why Derek Chauvin is GUILTY of FIRST DEGREE murder according to the law.

What if what really happened is Floyd threatened to expose CHAUVIN AS the one he got the 20 from so he took him out of the car and killed him? I find it hard to believe they did what they did because they were trying to help him, and youre an idiot if you believe that.

Bad cops kill worthless druggie thug. Can someone explain why I should care?

No one believes you. The only audience you're appealing to are people choosing to believe that and wouldn't ever believe anything else, even if god personally told them otherwise. Sit back down. For once, adults are talking on glp.

He could have also just been, like, put in the back of the cop car and then we'd be talking about something totally different right now, wouldn't we? Or not at all? Because he'd probably be alive. Or he'd have od'd in the cop car. Who knows?

That still leaves the whole kneeling on the dudes neck for no real reason for like ten minutes.

No, no one can explain to you empathy or the human experience. You lack it. It is simply something you do not possess and never will. I've always been lead to believe it's something you should at least understand, though.

Maybe you're just a stupid psychopath?

Or maybe you're just trying to look edgy on the internet?

It's one of those two things.

He was originally put against the building in the shade, but he got up and started acting like an idiot. He was wrestled to the ground and cuffed, and standard procedure was to use body weight to prevent movement, to prevent self injury. And as I said, we see Floyd on video raising his head so clearly Chauvin wasn't putting his "full weight" on Floyd's neck. Just enough to keep them on the ground. That's how it's trained.

"no reason" just means you have no idea what you're talking about. All of this will lead to an acquittal. It's kinda dumb that it went to trial in the first place, except it's brilliant. Nobody will benefit more from an acquittal than BLM. It'll be 2020 summer all over again. The donations will come rolling in and Patrisse Khan-Cullors can buy herself another house.

Oh so you side with the prosecution and fuck the coroners report.. think they know more than that eXpUrT wItNeSs pulmonologist- complete dipshit say anything hes paid to say

.... The medical examiner and medical specialists and every witness who has testified so far testified that this was a homicide, so that element is proved beyond reasonable doubt.....

No, no one can explain to you empathy or the human experience. You lack it. It is simply something you do not possess and never will. I've always been lead to believe it's something you should at least understand, though.

Maybe you're just a stupid psychopath?

I know, I know. That was a good burn. /Bow

Guess we'll see, eh?

I'm betting he is found guilty. I'm also hoping he gets a knee to his neck and a dick in his ass everyday in prison for the rest of his life.

I agree it was a deliberate murder and would have been charged as first degree if it was anyone other than a cop. Unfortunately second degree murder is the most he can be convicted of and I hope the jury does convict.

Why is Chauvin guilty of first degree murder? First degree murder has several elements which must be met. First, of course, there must be a death at the hands of another, defined as homicide. The medical examiner and medical specialists and every witness who has testified so far testified that this was a homicide, so that element is proved beyond reasonable doubt. George Floyd died as the direct result of Derek Chauvins actions, in a coordinated three on one PHYSICAL ATTACK on another.

Second, the accused must have had a primary responsibility for that death. So far all of the medical experts agree Derek Chauvins actions were the primary cause of Floyds death, so absent some new information this element is presumably met.

Third, He had to know his actions would result in death, the intent part of he definition. We heard testimony Chauvin was trained specifically to avoid positional asphyxia when subduing suspects, and we saw him ignore that training for a total of over 9 minutes. Intent. Once a suspect is in handcuffs he is not to be held prone for more time than is necessary to get him handcuffed because breathing is impaired in that position. My feeling on it is Chauvin heard Floyd complaining he couldn't breathe before he actually couldn't, and thought he could say he thought he must have been able to breathe because he was talking, and therefor was lying after held on the ground.

The police chief and trainer both testified Chauvin received this training and knowledge, that death was the probable result f this specific action.


The last element of first degree murder is premeditation, to have time to change his mind and to decide not to anyway, the premeditation and most depraved element, and why first degree murder is the worst type.

We can assume that Chauvin had at least four minutes to decide not to kill Floyd, since that is how long after he stopped breathing and moving and no pulse was found before Chauvin finally got up off of him. Chauvin knew at that point when no pulse was felt that he was "finishing him off", and making sure he died. AT this point CPR could have saved him, but Chauvin didn't try it and didn't allow anyone else to including a trained paramedic.

There is no way anyone can claim Chauvin didn't realize what he was doing would kill Floyd, because he was specifically trained that it it would, called positional asphyxia. The conscious and unconscious neck restraint was explained in detail in trial testimony, that continuing it after unconsciousness occurred would surely result in death in minutes and Chauvin was trained to know this.

I have seen so many people who claim they could and would survive what was done to Floyd, and I can tell you though my own personal experience, you would not. The position of Floyd and the weight of two men pressing down on his back and neck made getting the oxygen he needed to live completely impossible, and in my opinion based on what I saw and the information I have heard, Chauvin knew he was killing Floyd, intended to kill Floyd, and had plenty of time to think about it and change his mind.

Alot of people will argue the police have a hard job, and a lot of people make excuses for them when they abuse suspects that sound like this. They are also well paid to do their jobs, and are not forced into that line of work by anyone. I have also seen so many people say polcie shoudl be given privileged latitude because of the difficulty and courage their jobs require, and the danger they are exposed to. Let me remind you, all of us are exposed to the same exact dangers, and most of us dont have twenty armed men to back us up. ANd we certainly doent have the latitude to defend ourselves. Try to shoot someone because you saw a gun in their hand and see how fast you get locked up. And Ill tell you something else, if YOU and three of your friends had done this exact same thing to ANYONE, you'd be on trial for first degree murder. I think almost all of us here realize this, but there is a certain percentage of people who believe police should be held to special privileged standards. I think the opposite, I think people trained and paid to enforce THE LAW should be held to a HIGHER STANDAND of legal and moral behavior, not a lower one.

No, no one can explain to you empathy or the human experience. You lack it. It is simply something you do not possess and never will. I've always been lead to believe it's something you should at least understand, though.

Maybe you're just a stupid psychopath?

Or maybe you're just trying to look edgy on the internet?

It's one of those two things.

IMO it was first degree, Chauvin ha a motive for wanting Floyd dead, and carried out an execution.


I believe that motive was probably criminal involvement in passing counterfeit money or possibly drug distribution on Chauvins part, and he didn't want Floyd to live to see a trial.

Many cops are crooked, and steal evidence especially drugs and money. If the motive was pleasure, it is even more critical to get Chauvin locked up.


Why would he stay on him after he stopped breathing for so long, and no pulse was found, for four minutes?.... and stop anyone from doing CPR?

He was originally put against the building in the shade, but he got up and started acting like an idiot. He was wrestled to the ground and cuffed, and standard procedure was to use body weight to prevent movement, to prevent self injury. And as I said, we see Floyd on video raising his head so clearly Chauvin wasn't putting his "full weight" on Floyd's neck. Just enough to keep them on the ground. That's how it's trained.

"no reason" just means you have no idea what you're talking about. All of this will lead to an acquittal. It's kinda dumb that it went to trial in the first place, except it's brilliant. Nobody will benefit more from an acquittal than BLM. It'll be 2020 summer all over again. The donations will come rolling in and Patrisse Khan-Cullors can buy herself another house.