I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75010861 United States 04/09/2021 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005 The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss. For both statements: Exactly. Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs. It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about. They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP. For those who want a quick explanation: The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus. Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein. The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein. Voila! You have just been vaccinated. mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?) Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc. There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others. Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health. R. Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. Thank you for explaining. Why are you on here then? Get your vaccine. I don’t need it ( I donate my covid blood so have the antibodies) nor do I think it is safe. If, when my antibodies are gone, and everyone around me hasn’t killed over from their vaccine, I might think about taking it. But until then. I’m good. These people I have read have been silenced by the media, why are they being silenced if they are “wrong”? "Why are you on here then?" What? You don't approve of someone who values facts over lies and fantasies and don't think I should be on GLP? A better question is- Why are you on here then, Opie? To consume and spread lies and confusion? Do you like to be lied to? Apparently since you seem to approve of the liars and seem to want me to explain my presence here and then leave... What are you afraid of? Why are you here? Why are you anonymous? Do you speak Russian or Chinese? How's the weather in Saint Petersburg... or is it Beijing? R. Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. R. Why don’t you relax and go smoke a bowl, “420”. Find some “approved” literature that makes you feel better about the experimental jab you fell in line for. Also, you fail at reading comprehension. The OP didn’t say she disapproves of you being here, she asked why you are here, which is a logical question based on your disdain for the spirit of this site. |
NotStarvingActress
User ID: 79669555 United States 04/09/2021 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having not ever taken any physical science classes I can barely understand any of the posts on this thread or the very long one I created. Sad that almost everyone in my "real life" brags about taking the vaxx, even those that identify as Conservative/Libertarian Trump-supporting Republicans. Only one neighbor who's strongly anti-government (former pot grower) is on my side. However when J & J has already been sued for false claims, I'll trust the drug manufacturers when they 100% guarantee they'll pay for any illness, injury, et al from their vaxx. Until them I'm not a sheep. (I have sinusitis & a delicate stomach but am otherwise in very good health.) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77696983 Canada 04/09/2021 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got Quoting: Carley 80219481 They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die. They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine Pretty much it generates a graft vs HOST condition that is permanent. You'll all end up on steroids and biologics and chronic autoimmune disease which is a permanent nightmare. My issue is, why are people so dumb and not looking into it. From the looks of it, it’s our saving grace. But if you take 10 minutes and ask important questions, you learn that this is just an experiment. Why aren’t people questioning why it hasn’t worked in the past? Why isn’t it approved for other viruses? Because they news is saying, oh it’s not big deal, it’s been studied for 20 plus years. So people take that and run. I have friends that have given it to their 16 year old daughters and I cringe. I don’t tell people not to get it, I just tell them to study it. PEG has been linked to sever allergic reactions as well as infertility. But hey, I’m no scientist . People are not allowed to question it, and for that reason I will not take it. In normal scientific comunity there is alwasy time for debate and research, this time is different. Any comment or question is beeing very quickly censored. . |
lil_g
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A Deplorable Neanderthal
Forum Moderator User ID: 14959789 United Kingdom 04/09/2021 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could the mrna be a cure for cancer and for some reason they arent telling us? I remember trump basically saying they have a cure for cancer and thescience is amazing. Why would israel force their citizens to death? I have a feeling the vaccine might be benificial for something other than coronavirus Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75958720 They are saying now it could be useful in defeating HIV, so maybe cancer also It could be useful in defeating numerous viruses, while at the same time completely fucking up the entire natural immune response (autoimmunity) so that we can't fight off anything properly. #DefundTheBBC |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79447057 United States 04/09/2021 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys So tell us just exactly why the mRNA class of vaccines have NOT been approved for AIDs, other coronaviruses, Zika, SARS1, etc-- after 20 years of trying? You do know that all Covid19 vaccines are technically still experimental right now, and do not yet have regular FDA approval, right? You do know that all vaccinated ferrets in one study died from an" antibody dependent enhancement" reaction, when challenged later on with a wild coronavirus---- and you do not have questions about this? |
Dataskrekk
User ID: 80164588 Norway 04/09/2021 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys Please take the time to correct the key points! Maybe mention how to find out more. This OP actually did make an effort, most do not. They give a F... OP looked stuff up, how it is used, and understood mRNA somehow being a code for protein. I find that great. If more people make an effort and mention key points over and over, more people will learn stuff. Most important, people will learn to tell what is dumbing them down and what is real. Thank you. ⌦ Menstruators are going to menstruate. Period. ⌫ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79907166 United States 04/09/2021 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are not allowed to question it, and for that reason I will not take it. In normal scientific comunity there is alwasy time for debate and research, this time is different. Any comment or question is beeing very quickly censored. . THIS ^^^^ It’s WHY this entire Covid AND SHOT are not trusted. On top of all the propaganda is all of the lies that have been told. Any “thinking” person wouldn’t touch this SHOT with a 10’ pole. |
President Elect - SloGenPhys
User ID: 79821415 United States 04/09/2021 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From another poster in this thread: For those who want a quick explanation: The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus. Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein. The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein. Voila! You have just been vaccinated. mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?) Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc. There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others. I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys Please take the time to correct the key points! Maybe mention how to find out more. This OP actually did make an effort, most do not. They give a F... OP looked stuff up, how it is used, and understood mRNA somehow being a code for protein. I find that great. If more people make an effort and mention key points over and over, more people will learn stuff. Most important, people will learn to tell what is dumbing them down and what is real. Thank you. More information in this thread: Thread: mRNA question SloGenPhys |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799292 United States 04/09/2021 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Brought to you buy, the trusted scientists at the CDC. Thread: CDC now says Racism a "Public Health Threat" Next up, vaccines against rrrrrrracism! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80229296 04/09/2021 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong. Ive answered this and other questions so many times on GLP on various other threads, Its like whack-a-mole. Not worth me to continue to do it. All you really need to do is some basic research into biology. Its all there. you don't need a grad degree to understand it. No, I do not recommend the inoculation. Isn't that ALL you armchair biologists really care about anyway. Doesnt change the fact that OPs conceptual understanding is crap. Bullshit answer to question. GTFO |
mnemonic
User ID: 8895423 Netherlands 04/09/2021 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys You sound like a NWO pharma shill. i just survived covid , went hardcore, 10 days, it was brutal. immune system fixed it. everyone else can have vacc, i will be last in line. did you get your shot (of course not) but loop. ldx #$09 dly. dex nop bne. dly stx. $c030 jmp. loop |
A369* User ID: 78340037 Netherlands 04/09/2021 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys so explain your understanding on the safety of Mrna |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76626437 United States 04/09/2021 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fact is that when someone lies to you, its not for your benefit, but for theirs, and youre being set up to take the fall yourself as victim for the benefit of the liar. That enough should tell you what to do. and why. Once an intentional lie has been served to you, intended to put you at a disadvantage you can never trust the liar ever again for anything. |
bluestar47
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Maine Moose
User ID: 33600588 United States 04/09/2021 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys Oh, you’re so smart, you’re assholery had to come out to correct and insult others. GTFO Anti-Anger Addict |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76667912 United States 04/09/2021 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I understand it is mRNA is the blue print for the little 3D printers that print things called proteins in your cells. The trick is getting I to the cell which they do with some chemicals. Once the proteins are in the ribosomes start constructing the spike protein of the virus which your immune system sees as something bad and starts to build antibodies to attack it. Once there are no more plans being made ie the injection runs out. The spike protein stops being made. The only thing I don’t get is if your body makes the protein why does it see it as bad and as something to attack. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79983023 BECAUSE ITS A VIRUS PROTEIN. THE HUMAN BODY WONT MAKE A VIRUS PROTEIN. ITS A HUMAN BODY NOT A VIRUS. THIS IS WHY ITS FUCKED UP. YOU ARE ASKING THE BODY TO MAKE A VIRUS. A FOREIGN ENEMY. WHY WOULD THE BODY MAKE SOMETHING THAT WILL DESTROY IT. |
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FINGERPRINTS of the GODS
User ID: 58686169 United States 04/09/2021 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys Well, ask dermatologists about the sun... they ended up making melanoma risk worse by telling us to avoid the sun. There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. |
Carley (OP) User ID: 80219481 United States 04/09/2021 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I understand it is mRNA is the blue print for the little 3D printers that print things called proteins in your cells. The trick is getting I to the cell which they do with some chemicals. Once the proteins are in the ribosomes start constructing the spike protein of the virus which your immune system sees as something bad and starts to build antibodies to attack it. Once there are no more plans being made ie the injection runs out. The spike protein stops being made. The only thing I don’t get is if your body makes the protein why does it see it as bad and as something to attack. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79983023 BECAUSE ITS A VIRUS PROTEIN. THE HUMAN BODY WONT MAKE A VIRUS PROTEIN. ITS A HUMAN BODY NOT A VIRUS. THIS IS WHY ITS FUCKED UP. YOU ARE ASKING THE BODY TO MAKE A VIRUS. A FOREIGN ENEMY. WHY WOULD THE BODY MAKE SOMETHING THAT WILL DESTROY IT. This was my understanding of the things I read. Our bodies will reject it because it is foreign, maybe not right away, maybe not a year from now, but may create autoimmune diseases |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80002697 United States 04/09/2021 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others. Advocating for the disempowerment of thought based upon a subjective point of view over labels is a MAJOR RED FLAG. ------ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80216759 United States 04/09/2021 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was leary and very skeptical of the vaccine. I have friends who I trust implicitly who have backgrounds in this field and I asked them all the questions about this vaccine and what it actually does inside. In the most basic layman's terms it seems that the vaccine tricks the codes of your body to fight off the infection. Unlike a traditional flu shot that uses the dead virus to fight off itself, this hacks the codes in your body to do it for you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943489 That being said, I also know that this vaccine doesn't stay in your system forever. There is a limited life-span. HOWEVER.... what I am still very leary about is why the fuck is Bill Gates and the Gates foundation involved in promoting this vaccine when they are already on record for promoting population control? Also, this virus was absolutely released as a way to disrupt the system and provide an environment where it was easy to get rid of DJT. That is an indisputable fact. So... it is perfectly normal for everyone to question everything. Including this vaccine and any other vaccine coming down the line. We all have to ask questions... trust the people we know... and critically think our way through the next decade. There are also several Virologists, one of which wrote a letter to the W.H.O stating that this mRNA vaccine could potentially kill millions...At the very least, it would seem logical to wait a year to see the if there is any catastrophic effects. It is experimental! If this was an Ebola type infection, I would have nooo problem taking whatever was available but for a cold virus withva 99.96% recovery rate?? Lol, uh, no. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80154307 United Kingdom 04/09/2021 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having not ever taken any physical science classes I can barely understand any of the posts on this thread or the very long one I created. Quoting: NotStarvingActress Sad that almost everyone in my "real life" brags about taking the vaxx, even those that identify as Conservative/Libertarian Trump-supporting Republicans. Only one neighbor who's strongly anti-government (former pot grower) is on my side. However when J & J has already been sued for false claims, I'll trust the drug manufacturers when they 100% guarantee they'll pay for any illness, injury, et al from their vaxx. Until them I'm not a sheep. (I have sinusitis & a delicate stomach but am otherwise in very good health.) you even got brexiteers in uk worshipping the jab since they turned it into an eu v uk thing |
Xeven
User ID: 79827759 United States 04/09/2021 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am fine with vaccines that have been tested. I’ve had Covid, was like a cold so why on earth would I want to use a test vaccine when what it supposedly cures does not harm me to begin with? In 5 years if Covid is still around, I might take a vaccine after years of testing and proof it’s not worse than Covid itself. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80216759 United States 04/09/2021 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others. Advocating for the disempowerment of thought based upon a subjective point of view over labels is a MAJOR RED FLAG. ------ Especially for a cold virus with a 99.96% survival rate that kills 82 year olds and spares children, something even thec seasonal flu kills at a rate of 40,000. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29143373 United States 04/09/2021 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys nice try...so in other words, he is right and you are worried others will look into it further |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76847005 United States 04/09/2021 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This product DOES NOT MEET THE LEGAL OR MEDICAL DEFINITION of a vaccine. Quoting: Morrissons are cunts It IS NOT a vaccine. The future of the human race is now anaphylaxis and auto immune disorders for all those who were dishonestly gulled into accepting this procedure, through deceit. This. Given the stream of LIES from all the govt and nongovt agencies I dont trust a single goddam thing anyone trying to sell me, or sell something to someone in my name what so ever. I dont trust liars, and from what I know, theyre lying about everything. So, to me, their promises are not to be believed or even accepted out of hand. That is all. Must suck to be retarded to the degree where you have to blindly distrust information rather than form an opinion on your own. Hopefully you have a good caregiver. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80216759 United States 04/09/2021 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am fine with vaccines that have been tested. I’ve had Covid, was like a cold so why on earth would I want to use a test vaccine when what it supposedly cures does not harm me to begin with? Quoting: Xeven In 5 years if Covid is still around, I might take a vaccine after years of testing and proof it’s not worse than Covid itself. And that's why us paranoid lunatics here on GLP light up, lol, --a virus with a 99.96% survival rate that kills the very old, average age is 82 for the majority of deaths, is why they're pushing an untested, experimental vaccine that could potentially kill millions. That's a BIG red flag, lol. |
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Maine Moose
User ID: 33600588 United States 04/09/2021 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate. Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys Yeah, that's why you have to sign paperwork acknowledging that you understand that it is not a vaccine and that there is no vaccine for Covid 19 before you get the jab. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79250744 What the hell are you babbling about? Who has to sign a paper that "it is not a vaccine and that..."? Where did you read or come up with this delusional codswallop? . This is like having a discussion about calculus with a 4 year old who doesn't even know the number line and believes in magic and monsters... R. Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description. Reality 420 is either a shill or an asshole. Anti-Anger Addict |