I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine

They are saying now it could be useful in defeating HIV, so maybe cancer also

What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot


"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
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BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?

We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
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This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

What about the Johnson and Johnson vaccine? It is DNA not mRNA

Eliminate countless useless eaters and you need far fewer healthcare professionals... so they are equally disposable?

Currently the recovery rate is above 99.7%, as can be easily verified using data from. The CDC, WHO, and JOHN HOPKINS.

As for acceptable deaths until 1 in 10 die outright and not from co-morbidity I don't buy the narrative, but I haven't seen a doctor in 20 years and the only medicines I use are naturally based. To each their own but when someone tells me I must take your western medicine, to travel, work, or buy groceries, I respond by executing any person or givernment interfering with my fundamental rights to make choices for myself. Basically if you want to force me to believe what you are selling, I will fight back in kind, in fact I would die to protect my individual freedom. I will not be told that if I do not take the poison big pharma is pushing with no legal recourse if it goes badly. Don't care about mrna blah blah blah, only that it's my body and my choice anything less is a declaration of war upon myself.

The fact that Harvard and MIT researchers are finding reason to believe that this mRNA gene therapy is, in fact, altering the DNA (reverse transcription) -- contrary to what we're all being told -- is MORE THAN ENOUGH REASON to stop this experimental trial immediately until more research can be done. Instead, they should be pushing people to get their Vitamin A (beta carotene) and D levels checked and leveled-up as needed, and offer alternative prophylactics and treatments including Ivermectin, which have all been proven safe over decades.

Forcing an untested experimental vaccine on all humanity without knowing the long term effects is unequivocally the most single most irresponsible act ever committed by the human race.

Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.

Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.

I took the vaccine just now.. everything got brighter...

Feels like I got a upgrade..

I’m being 100% honest

why do you think they are pushing the vaccine so hard?? They know its going to harm us.

For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

Ive answered this and other questions so many times on GLP on various other threads, Its like whack-a-mole. Not worth me to continue to do it.

All you really need to do is some basic research into biology. Its all there. you don't need a grad degree to understand it.

No, I do not recommend the inoculation. Isn't that ALL you armchair biologists really care about anyway.

Doesnt change the fact that OPs conceptual understanding is crap.

I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.

Yup, but I am simply a layman on this subject. OP lost me at "your DNA fights..."

So, as a geneticist and biologist, I must ask if you will take the vaccine?

My 83 yr old, COPD stage 4 mom did. She has had both injections and is no worse for wear than prior to. NO SIDE EFFECTS whatsoever, so far.

Fuck off

There are several well established ideologic, ethnic or cultual groups of extremist believers whos group mission statement is the eventaul extermination of all others anywhere on the planet that would dare resist their control and exploitation.
You can make up a list if you cant immediately bring any to mind at the moment.

Why would I be stupid enough to take this experimental gene therapy?

Did you not read my post, or you are using "you" in a more general sense, referring to those (who I consider ignorant) on this board who would and/or have already taken this gene therapy without properly thinking it through or waiting for the FDA to complete their longer-term studies and give it actual approval? (which I will definitely NOT be trusting blindly!)

Good nuke example. It looks like they're nuking the whole human genome with this one.

Most people still trust scientists, yet they deliver us poisons that have exploded cancer, autism, diabetes, etc... have given us Fukushima, have toxified the air, soil, and water... have psychologically manipulated and tortured the human race via social engineering. These are SICK egos, many of these scientists. You cannot trust an ego. I don't care if they have 1,000 degrees. Garbage in, garbage out.

Pardon me for saying this as it does not apply to the GOOD and INTELLIGENT scientists and researchers out there, but for those of you with elephant-sized egos who are simply collecting a paycheck while making this world worse -- STFU until you learn to start thinking through consequences better! You have fucked up the human race enough already!

...until the mutations reanimate your corpse and you end up on the wrong side of the zombie apocalypse...

Still crap.

Still crap.

Yup, but I am simply a layman on this subject. OP lost me at "your DNA fights..."

So, as a geneticist and biologist, I must ask if you will take the vaccine?

My 83 yr old, COPD stage 4 mom did. She has had both injections and is no worse for wear than prior to. NO SIDE EFFECTS whatsoever, so far.