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I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine

 
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transfers of information from RNA to DNA are explicitly held possible.[2][3][4]"

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This is what I wrote above.
It is unclear what it means for us, but it is clear that mRNA can integrate into our DNA.

If You want to try out, what it means, take the VAXX and tell us in a few years, how You feel (if You are still alive).

BTW, the claim: A vaxx is taken just once and disappears afterward, so there can't be any long time effects is like the claim: A nuke explodes just once and there should afterwards be no long-time effects. (ask the folks from Hiroshima and Nagasaki).
 Quoting: Jolly Jumper


Why would I be stupid enough to take this experimental gene therapy?

Did you not read my post, or you are using "you" in a more general sense, referring to those (who I consider ignorant) on this board who would and/or have already taken this gene therapy without properly thinking it through or waiting for the FDA to complete their longer-term studies and give it actual approval? (which I will definitely NOT be trusting blindly!)

Good nuke example. It looks like they're nuking the whole human genome with this one.

Most people still trust scientists, yet they deliver us poisons that have exploded cancer, autism, diabetes, etc... have given us Fukushima, have toxified the air, soil, and water... have psychologically manipulated and tortured the human race via social engineering. These are SICK egos, many of these scientists. You cannot trust an ego. I don't care if they have 1,000 degrees. Garbage in, garbage out.

Pardon me for saying this as it does not apply to the GOOD and INTELLIGENT scientists and researchers out there, but for those of you with elephant-sized egos who are simply collecting a paycheck while making this world worse -- STFU until you learn to start thinking through consequences better! You have fucked up the human race enough already!
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I was leary and very skeptical of the vaccine. I have friends who I trust implicitly who have backgrounds in this field and I asked them all the questions about this vaccine and what it actually does inside. In the most basic layman's terms it seems that the vaccine tricks the codes of your body to fight off the infection. Unlike a traditional flu shot that uses the dead virus to fight off itself, this hacks the codes in your body to do it for you.

That being said, I also know that this vaccine doesn't stay in your system forever. There is a limited life-span.

HOWEVER.... what I am still very leary about is why the fuck is Bill Gates and the Gates foundation involved in promoting this vaccine when they are already on record for promoting population control?

Also, this virus was absolutely released as a way to disrupt the system and provide an environment where it was easy to get rid of DJT. That is an indisputable fact.

So... it is perfectly normal for everyone to question everything. Including this vaccine and any other vaccine coming down the line.

We all have to ask questions... trust the people we know... and critically think our way through the next decade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943489


I agree with most of what you've said above, but 1) This isn't a vaccine (it is gene therapy), and 2) you failed to recognize or acknowledge that the genetic changes this gene therapy LIKELY makes will almost certainly be permanent and will not "leave the system" with the vaccine.

To put this into GLP language, this is "playing God" on the level of Atlantean genetic scientists. It will not end well if permitted to continue.
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Its immaterial if the inciting event lasts after inducing cross reactivity of one of your fuctionalities such as immunity and other aspects of physiology with resultant permanent alteration in immune function and cellular repair.
The point if that if you have to force a square peg through a round hole of similar dimension, something MUST change permanently as a consequence.
A bullet may reside or transit the body only briefly but the effects are often permanent.
Once the train is off the track, especially when driven to extremes, biochemically and functionally speaking it leaves a mess and is never going to behave the same.
WE DONT HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE that artificial safe immunity can be forced upon a system not naturally oriented to have it occur safely, and that any artificial stimulation, noxious adjuvant, cancerous or xenotypic growth media or other unnatural cofactors or manipulations are far more likely to do more unintended harm than good.

The facts remain that nothing has proven safe, normally approved as safe for various stages of life and physiologic states such as pregnancy and nobody is being encouraged to read the product insert.
The public discourse is being suppressed, and the public has no objective, honest advocate and has little or no recourse if harmed.
The similarity to being treated as some kind of herd sheep or cattle cannot be overemphasized,
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It’s all about the prions boys! Get ready to go crazy mad! And just remember the cdc has a plan for that also lol... we’re screwed in 2022
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The guy with the “knowledge” - show us your diploma or GTFO with your propaganda shait!

The OP is right.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


This
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


Yeah, just like 99% of scientists believe that climate change is man made. Scientists are never wrong, statistics never skewed nor concocted to political (and funding) advantage, and scientists never have normalcy or confirmation bias. We're good. We can trust these "humble" and "impartial" scientists, politicians and think tanks.
 Quoting: Inquire Within


Most scientists I work with don't believe this. Don't believe the news
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


That's exactly what I'm saying... "statistics [are] never skewed nor concocted to political (and funding) advantage"

In other words, they LIE. And yet... "trust the science!"
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Yeah, that's why you have to sign paperwork acknowledging that you understand that it is not a vaccine and that there is no vaccine for Covid 19 before you get the jab.
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What the hell are you babbling about?
Who has to sign a paper that "it is not a vaccine and that..."?
Where did you read or come up with this delusional codswallop?
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This is like having a discussion about calculus with a 4 year old who doesn't even know the number line and believes in magic and monsters...

R.
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 Quoting: Reality420

Thank you for gracing GLP with your presence Einstein. We are humbled that such an intelligent person would share their wisdom here.

I encourage you to get the vaccine as soon as possible because science!
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80134441


I have said time and time I may not have gotten everything right. But am I bad person to question the narrative about covid. There has been lie after lie. Now they are saying life will get back to normal next year. It’s a control thing, just like with the race war. If you are so smart, break it down for me. Then I can decide if the vaccine seems safe. From some, they say the mRNA can go inside the cell lining causing the body to fight it off. Therefore making autoimmune issues in our bodies. Now I know about 100 people that have gotten vaccinated and all are fine for now. Maybe you are a paid bot to come in here and push vaccines. Who knows. There is nothing wrong with people wanting to learn, to come at me saying horrible things shows who some of these people really are
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.
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Yeah, we are still waiting to hear his/her intelligent response to OP, or did I miss it? If so, kindly repost.
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your dna does not fight it off

it is the fact that your cells never stop making the spike protein

it gets spewed all over your cells and your immune system never stops attacking it
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This doesn't actually happen. Otherwise people would permanently be testing positive on rt-PCR.


What happens is that either they have to use such a high dose that it causes the immune system to be hyper-sensitive and during a future encounter the immune system will overreact and cause a cytokine storm.

It's called vaccine induced disease enhancement, and it can happen with other vaccines too, just not mRNA.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

It is possible that the production Moderna and Pfizer vaccine will not have this problem, because of the recent breakthroughs in lipid technology and self-replicating mRNA.

One of my concerns was initially that self-replicating sounds like it could cause a runaway factory of spike proteins, but it turns out the way that it works is self-limiting and requires the substrait of what's injected in the body. It seems that it works more like a time-release where it can produce things over a few days and then runs out.

Notice I said it *may* not have this problem of disease enhancement. It may or may not, and we won't know until at least 12-18 months.
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What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
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BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
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This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420


but they said it would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than the spanish flu ..

50 million people out of a population on 1.8 billion then is

.027% ( 2.7 % )

.027% of the population now of 7.8 Billion is 216 Million

think we have a ways yet
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79543875


Yeah, we are still waiting to hear his/her intelligent response to OP, or did I miss it? If so, kindly repost.
 Quoting: Inquire Within


If this scenario were actually happening the person would reject almost right away.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79543875


Yeah, we are still waiting to hear his/her intelligent response to OP, or did I miss it? If so, kindly repost.
 Quoting: Inquire Within


If this scenario were actually happening the person would reject almost right away.
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why do you think they are pushing the vaccine so hard?? They know its going to harm us.
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But assuming some of us are useless, and disposable and despicable...why would they insist all the useful, essential health care workers get vaccinated? Don't they/we need them?
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Pretty much it generates a graft vs HOST condition that is permanent.
You'll all end up on steroids and biologics and chronic autoimmune disease which is a permanent nightmare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


My issue is, why are people so dumb and not looking into it. From the looks of it, it’s our saving grace. But if you take 10 minutes and ask important questions, you learn that this is just an experiment. Why aren’t people questioning why it hasn’t worked in the past? Why isn’t it approved for other viruses? Because they news is saying, oh it’s not big deal, it’s been studied for 20 plus years. So people take that and run. I have friends that have given it to their 16 year old daughters and I cringe. I don’t tell people not to get it, I just tell them to study it. PEG has been linked to sever allergic reactions as well as infertility. But hey, I’m no scientist
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Fact is official and quasiofficial and nonofficial but govt approved outlets are purposely LYING about what the warnings and details of risk the inserts make plain and contain.

Then to add to the insult they come up with a sweetheart non liability deal to insure private industrial profitability which excluded every single persons right to representation and informed consent.
There is literally NOBODY providing informed consent to potential harm and probable victims.
Noobody is even looking to identify examples of harm, esplaining anything of concern as coincidence.

THERE IS NOBODY OFFICIALLY REQUIRED TO BE OBJECTIVE at any point in the process.
The public has no advocate.
NONE.

If thats not how a killing machine works I dont know wh8at ii
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A year ago when many people questioned "did that person die from covid, or from heart disease" or similar questions, nothing was done. Every person that died, regardless of reason, was tested for covid and if it was positive, they were counted as a "covid death".

Now, when people get the vaccine and die or have palsey or blood clots or any of the many "side effects", those same people scream "there's no proof those things happened because of the vaccine".

Does nobody else see the inconsistency here?
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How so "anti-science kooks"..?

The quite logical questions remain, no matter how much of an
ignorant layman I am or am not.

For example:

The sum of most highly respected science and expertise says
that even if one takes the shot, it does not prevent one from
being a spreader of the disease.

Correct?

That is what officials in charge over here are saying.

Logically, it would stand to reason then, that the only thing
that creates a social, interpersonal connection is not present at all.
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your dna does not fight it off

it is the fact that your cells never stop making the spike protein

it gets spewed all over your cells and your immune system never stops attacking it
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This doesn't actually happen. Otherwise people would permanently be testing positive on rt-PCR.


What happens is that either they have to use such a high dose that it causes the immune system to be hyper-sensitive and during a future encounter the immune system will overreact and cause a cytokine storm.

It's called vaccine induced disease enhancement, and it can happen with other vaccines too, just not mRNA.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

It is possible that the production Moderna and Pfizer vaccine will not have this problem, because of the recent breakthroughs in lipid technology and self-replicating mRNA.

One of my concerns was initially that self-replicating sounds like it could cause a runaway factory of spike proteins, but it turns out the way that it works is self-limiting and requires the substrait of what's injected in the body. It seems that it works more like a time-release where it can produce things over a few days and then runs out.

Notice I said it *may* not have this problem of disease enhancement. It may or may not, and we won't know until at least 12-18 months.
 Quoting: chrion777 79167926


The fact that Harvard and MIT researchers are finding reason to believe that this mRNA gene therapy is, in fact, altering the DNA (reverse transcription) -- contrary to what we're all being told -- is MORE THAN ENOUGH REASON to stop this experimental trial immediately until more research can be done. Instead, they should be pushing people to get their Vitamin A (beta carotene) and D levels checked and leveled-up as needed, and offer alternative prophylactics and treatments including Ivermectin, which have all been proven safe over decades.
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Again if we look at the deaths in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 and then 2020 there is no overwhelming difference in the nations deaths across all those years. So if the media and gubbermint didn't make a big deal out of it no one would have even known the difference or thought anything was going on. This is a political and monetary disease and if anything good came out of it, it's that now we know who the mindless sheep are.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
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I don't believe that GLP is as idiotically liberal or foolishly leftwing as you imply it is.
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why do you think they are pushing the vaccine so hard?? They know its going to harm us.
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But assuming some of us are useless, and disposable and despicable...why would they insist all the useful, essential health care workers get vaccinated? Don't they/we need them?
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Eliminate countless useless eaters and you need far fewer healthcare professionals... so they are equally disposable?
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Could the mrna be a cure for cancer and for some reason they arent telling us? I remember trump basically saying they have a cure for cancer and thescience is amazing. Why would israel force their citizens to death? I have a feeling the vaccine might be benificial for something other than coronavirus
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A year ago when many people questioned "did that person die from covid, or from heart disease" or similar questions, nothing was done. Every person that died, regardless of reason, was tested for covid and if it was positive, they were counted as a "covid death".

Now, when people get the vaccine and die or have palsey or blood clots or any of the many "side effects", those same people scream "there's no proof those things happened because of the vaccine".

Does nobody else see the inconsistency here?
 Quoting: Philly Special


Correct.

You see the same flip flopping when a lot of issues and controversies are being dealt with.

For example, BLM/Antifa good, so-called white supremacists bad.

One group went on rioting-looting-killing rampages, the other group mainly promoted MAGA.

So much big-time flip flopping, various people will easily win Gold at the Libtard Olympics.
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Triggered liberal vaccine lover says:

4/9/2021 Up in Here Biiiiiiiiiitch

I sincerely hope you don't get sick from the vaccine. You should try engaging in useful dialogue versus demonstrating your ignorance in my karma, as it's only helping to make my point.
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Could the mrna be a cure for cancer and for some reason they arent telling us? I remember trump basically saying they have a cure for cancer and thescience is amazing. Why would israel force their citizens to death? I have a feeling the vaccine might be benificial for something other than coronavirus
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Man of La Mancha is a great story, but it's important that we not project our own goodness and wholesome motives onto others where it's not. In other words, "Be wise as serpents and gentled as doves."
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
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...another University of Phoenix graduate...
"I'm more concerned with knowing the truth than feeling good about it."

"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is, revolution is when you figure it out yourself."

"Being a visionary is a blessing and a curse...you're blessed to see what other people can't, but cursed to sit in it alone"
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What about the Johnson and Johnson vaccine? It is DNA not mRNA
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
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For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420




govt.s lie too.

During aftermath of 911 they told everyone the air was fine... then people I knew started dying...

when I went to detox center with many of the people who worked at ground zero and had serious health issues as a result, the media lied and said the detox center was not effective...

your whole premise is either a lie or just stupidity

colleges and scientists lie too... as they have many times concerning the theory of evolution... the lies get hyped, the truth gets put out, but without the hype

so the only way to discern truth is to listen to ALL the sources and make the best, most informed, cross-referenced conclusion you can
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Could the mrna be a cure for cancer and for some reason they arent telling us? I remember trump basically saying they have a cure for cancer and thescience is amazing. Why would israel force their citizens to death? I have a feeling the vaccine might be benificial for something other than coronavirus
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They are saying now it could be useful in defeating HIV, so maybe cancer also
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The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
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Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
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Ok so what part did I have wrong? And explain the mRNA vaccine then
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I cant explain what doesnt exist and hasnt been proven, its not incumbent upon ME to prove a negative to your satisfaction.
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OP stop wasting time with this 13 year troll...
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