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I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine

 
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The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420



Thank you for explaining. Why are you on here then? Get your vaccine. I don’t need it ( I donate my covid blood so have the antibodies) nor do I think it is safe. If, when my antibodies are gone, and everyone around me hasn’t killed over from their vaccine, I might think about taking it. But until then. I’m good.

These people I have read have been silenced by the media, why are they being silenced if they are “wrong”?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219481


"Why are you on here then?"
What? You don't approve of someone who values facts over lies and fantasies and don't think I should be on GLP?

A better question is- Why are you on here then, Opie?
To consume and spread lies and confusion?
Do you like to be lied to?
Apparently since you seem to approve of the liars and seem to want me to explain my presence here and then leave...

What are you afraid of?
Why are you here?
Why are you anonymous?
Do you speak Russian or Chinese?
How's the weather in Saint Petersburg... or is it Beijing?


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

R.
 Quoting: Reality420



All that education and noone taught you manners, how not to be rude, how people are repulsed by obnoxious, arrogant know it alls, and basic common courtesy. Knowledge and wisdom are two very different things.
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The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420



Thank you for explaining. Why are you on here then? Get your vaccine. I don’t need it ( I donate my covid blood so have the antibodies) nor do I think it is safe. If, when my antibodies are gone, and everyone around me hasn’t killed over from their vaccine, I might think about taking it. But until then. I’m good.

These people I have read have been silenced by the media, why are they being silenced if they are “wrong”?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219481


"Why are you on here then?"
What? You don't approve of someone who values facts over lies and fantasies and don't think I should be on GLP?

A better question is- Why are you on here then, Opie?
To consume and spread lies and confusion?
Do you like to be lied to?
Apparently since you seem to approve of the liars and seem to want me to explain my presence here and then leave...

What are you afraid of?
Why are you here?
Why are you anonymous?
Do you speak Russian or Chinese?
How's the weather in Saint Petersburg... or is it Beijing?


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

R.
 Quoting: Reality420



All that education and noone taught you manners, how not to be rude, how people are repulsed by obnoxious, arrogant know it alls, and basic common courtesy. Knowledge and wisdom are two very different things.
Shanny
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
End of the day, it's your body.

Take it or STFU and dont.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
DNA replicates and stores genetic information. It is a blueprint for all genetic information contained within an organism

RNA converts the genetic information contained within DNA to a format used to build proteins, and then moves it to ribosomal protein factories.


the vaccines are also cancerogenous, how else do you think they can keep up feeding the Big Pharma industries

they're making you sick so that at the end of the day, they'll be selling you the live saving drugs, therapies

win-win for the treasonous deep state CABAL
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For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420



Thank you for explaining. Why are you on here then? Get your vaccine. I don’t need it ( I donate my covid blood so have the antibodies) nor do I think it is safe. If, when my antibodies are gone, and everyone around me hasn’t killed over from their vaccine, I might think about taking it. But until then. I’m good.

These people I have read have been silenced by the media, why are they being silenced if they are “wrong”?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219481


"Why are you on here then?"
What? You don't approve of someone who values facts over lies and fantasies and don't think I should be on GLP?

A better question is- Why are you on here then, Opie?
To consume and spread lies and confusion?
Do you like to be lied to?
Apparently since you seem to approve of the liars and seem to want me to explain my presence here and then leave...

What are you afraid of?
Why are you here?
Why are you anonymous?
Do you speak Russian or Chinese?
How's the weather in Saint Petersburg... or is it Beijing?


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

R.
 Quoting: Reality420



All that education and noone taught you manners, how not to be rude, how people are repulsed by obnoxious, arrogant know it alls, and basic common courtesy. Knowledge and wisdom are two very different things.
 Quoting: Shanny


Yep. He's arrogant and rude...on a site with, as he says, "kooks" abound...one has to wonder why he posts here?
Lol
What a fool.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
I've been on GLP for so long that I just don't fucking care.

If you're a moron and take your shot(s) great!

If you're intelligent and refuse the shots? Great!

If you want to invade my home, it will be the worst day of your life. C'mon Man!
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


Then why don't you tell him where he's wrong and set things straight for everyone?
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


Yes, I would like to know as well.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
this thread shows us why AC's are a cool feature
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
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BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
.
This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420


We don’t know how many of those two million deaths were truly covid related. Hospitals made a lot of money by hooking people up to respirators in the beginning which killed them. And many who died from other things were listed as covid to get money as well. Greed kills. I don’t trust the numbers at all.

If covid was so bad pilots and flight crews would have been dropping dead since they are around the public constantly. They weren’t. And they are not that healthy like they use to be. And planes are filthy. I use to be a crew member and keep up with what is going on. The unions would have been all over it. Nope. There is something else going on and it is not covid related. This so called sickness is just a cold or flu ramped up some. That’s it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79543875


Key...riced!
Can you anti-science dummkopfs get anything right?
It isn't "two million deaths" for chrissake.
Can you read?
I cited the current 560,000 USA deaths.
The 2 million is what can be expected if the entire population becomes infected without a vaccine.
.
And of course you are now trying to make that fact disappear by invoking a delusional conspiracy which, in your fantasy world, trumps mere data and facts.
Guess what?
In the world of science there have been 560,000+ deaths due to COVID and all your kooky anti-vaccine conspiracy theories do not negate that fact.

Readers - This is why you cannot trust anything you read on this site. Hell, the GLP disclaimer even tells you that you shouldn't believe a damn word posted here.
You are talking to functionally illiterate morans and ghoulish knuckle-draggers who couldn't pass a 7th grade Earth Science course.
But they're all smarter than science PhDs with 20 years of schooling and 20 years of research in their fields.
Look up Dunning-Kruger effect. They are so dumb they don't know that they don't know.
Time for them to go back to babbling about Light Workers, Flat Earth, Nibiru, Chemtrails, Bible Quotes, etc., etc.


R.
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


but...but...but.. the CDC claims via their website that the 'vaccine' does absolutely nothing to one's DNA.. They wouldn't lie to us, would they?
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


Why don’t you ad that “more data is needed” to validate its immunodeficiency? Be honest
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OP i think you're slightly confused about the process.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


shove your fake degrees up your ass

hows it feel studing fake shit that you were toooo dumb to figure out "your being had". hahaah. have fun paying those loans back. smartieee
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It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

R.
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 Quoting: Reality420

Well, there are "Kooks" from biochemistry that found out that there is a possibility (small but not zero) for RNA to get into DNA, the process called Reverse Transcription
Please google Dr.Dr. super intelligent. So maybe You learn something new at least.

[link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)]

This is an older article, with interesting discussion.
In the end, it does not seem clear, what this inverse transcription really means. But it is clear, that it exists and there IS a possibility for mRNA integrate into our DNA, though, nobody knows will it do harm to us or not.
Do You want to try out? Take the Vaxx!

Last Edited by Jolly Jumper on 04/09/2021 02:35 PM
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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


If it can change cells it can contribute to cancer.
 Quoting: Xeven


How does this happen with RNA in your universe?

If this were true (It isn't.) then the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 could also "contribute to cancer" but at a much higher rate since the disease infection would have your cells produce many times the spike protein that the vaccine produces.

Readers - Just try to remember what a vaccine is doing:
It is giving your body the knowledge on how to identify and defeat the dangerous invader so when you do get invaded by the virus your immune system wins the race between virus replication and immune response. It's like running the 100 meter sprint but the vaccine gives you a 50 meter head start. Generally it takes your body 10-14 days to mount a full response to a virus it has never seen. In that time the virus has had time to replicate extensively and you become very ill before your immune system can come to the rescue. Much too often your naive immune system is too late and the victim dies or is seriously harmed.
Vaccines drop that 10-14 days to around 1-2 days before your immune system starts cranking up your defenses.

This is not a game so quit listening to anonymous morons and unqualified kooks and quacks on the internet.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420


Go away with your disinfo nonsense.

This is a dangerous shot. And kill or millions of people
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I was leary and very skeptical of the vaccine. I have friends who I trust implicitly who have backgrounds in this field and I asked them all the questions about this vaccine and what it actually does inside. In the most basic layman's terms it seems that the vaccine tricks the codes of your body to fight off the infection. Unlike a traditional flu shot that uses the dead virus to fight off itself, this hacks the codes in your body to do it for you.

That being said, I also know that this vaccine doesn't stay in your system forever. There is a limited life-span.

HOWEVER.... what I am still very leary about is why the fuck is Bill Gates and the Gates foundation involved in promoting this vaccine when they are already on record for promoting population control?

Also, this virus was absolutely released as a way to disrupt the system and provide an environment where it was easy to get rid of DJT. That is an indisputable fact.

So... it is perfectly normal for everyone to question everything. Including this vaccine and any other vaccine coming down the line.

We all have to ask questions... trust the people we know... and critically think our way through the next decade.
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Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437



Ok so what part did I have wrong? And explain the mRNA vaccine then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219481


I cant explain what doesnt exist and hasnt been proven, its not incumbent upon ME to prove a negative to your satisfaction.
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The mRNA vaccine does exist, they are using it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219481


It's not a vaccine. It's gene therapy.

Moderna used to be ModeRNA. To my knowledge, they never produced a single vaccine or anything for humans prior to this experimental monstrosity.

Reverse transcription from this gene therapy may forever alter the human genome. This should be a grave concern, because once the underlying human code is corrupted to such an extent, it is likely it can never be repaired and will compound with future "vaccines" (gene therapies) until the human race dies out from genetic corruption.

"A reverse transcriptase (RT) is an enzyme used to generate complementary DNA (cDNA) from an RNA template, a process termed reverse transcription. Reverse transcriptases are used by certain viruses such as HIV and the hepatitis B virus to replicate their genomes, by retrotransposon mobile genetic elements to proliferate within the host genome, and by eukaryotic cells to extend the telomeres at the ends of their linear chromosomes. Contrary to a widely held belief, the process does not violate the flows of genetic information as described by the classical central dogma, as transfers of information from RNA to DNA are explicitly held possible.[2][3][4]"

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Fear and greed make humans do very stupid, shortsighted things.
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What vaccine?
Why subject yourself to an experimental technology for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate.

Are you familiar what happened with previous attempts at making a corona vaccine when animals where exposed to the virus after vaccination?

It was a miserable failure....

But sure lets just stick with our "pro science" sources like CNN

Surely we wont listen to the countless doctors who are risking their lives/families/careers to warn and go against the mainstream narrative.

How did humanity ever make it this far without big pharma injections,

God given immune systems must of been such a huge flaw that it's a miracle we ever got this far.

But never fear Big Pharma has corrected God's mistake.

Now line up for your shot



"...for a "virus" with a 99.98 % survival rate."
Citation desperately needed for this.
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BTW - The population IFR is very age dependent but is about 0.60%-0.70%
in the USA.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
"As shown in Fig. 6, population IFR (computed across all ages) ranges from about 0.5% in Salt Lake City and Geneva to 1.5% in Australia and England and 2.7% in Italy."

Gee... what is 0.60% of 330,000,000?
Ahhh... It's only about 2,000,000 deaths from COVID.
Presumably you would find 2 Million deaths acceptable?


We currently have had ~560,000 COVID deaths which gives a lower boundary for IFR of 560,000/330,000,000 = 0.0017 = 0.17%.
This makes the upper bound for COVID survivability to be 100-0.17 = 99.83%. We've already had a death rate 8+ times what you are claiming, Mr. "99.98% survival".
And that's if we falsely consider that 100% of the US population has been infected; which it hasn't.
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This is why I don't argue technical aspects much here on GLP... most of the anti-science, anti-vaccine ghouls are completely innumerate and functionally illiterate.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


We don’t know how many of those two million deaths were truly covid related. Hospitals made a lot of money by hooking people up to respirators in the beginning which killed them. And many who died from other things were listed as covid to get money as well. Greed kills. I don’t trust the numbers at all.

If covid was so bad pilots and flight crews would have been dropping dead since they are around the public constantly. They weren’t. And they are not that healthy like they use to be. And planes are filthy. I use to be a crew member and keep up with what is going on. The unions would have been all over it. Nope. There is something else going on and it is not covid related. This so called sickness is just a cold or flu ramped up some. That’s it.
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Key...riced!
Can you anti-science dummkopfs get anything right?
It isn't "two million deaths" for chrissake.
Can you read?
I cited the current 560,000 USA deaths.
The 2 million is what can be expected if the entire population becomes infected without a vaccine.
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And of course you are now trying to make that fact disappear by invoking a delusional conspiracy which, in your fantasy world, trumps mere data and facts.
Guess what?
In the world of science there have been 560,000+ deaths due to COVID and all your kooky anti-vaccine conspiracy theories do not negate that fact.

Readers - This is why you cannot trust anything you read on this site. Hell, the GLP disclaimer even tells you that you shouldn't believe a damn word posted here.
You are talking to functionally illiterate morans and ghoulish knuckle-draggers who couldn't pass a 7th grade Earth Science course.
But they're all smarter than science PhDs with 20 years of schooling and 20 years of research in their fields.
Look up Dunning-Kruger effect. They are so dumb they don't know that they don't know.
Time for them to go back to babbling about Light Workers, Flat Earth, Nibiru, Chemtrails, Bible Quotes, etc., etc.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420


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I was leary and very skeptical of the vaccine. I have friends who I trust implicitly who have backgrounds in this field and I asked them all the questions about this vaccine and what it actually does inside. In the most basic layman's terms it seems that the vaccine tricks the codes of your body to fight off the infection. Unlike a traditional flu shot that uses the dead virus to fight off itself, this hacks the codes in your body to do it for you.

That being said, I also know that this vaccine doesn't stay in your system forever. There is a limited life-span.

HOWEVER.... what I am still very leary about is why the fuck is Bill Gates and the Gates foundation involved in promoting this vaccine when they are already on record for promoting population control?

Also, this virus was absolutely released as a way to disrupt the system and provide an environment where it was easy to get rid of DJT. That is an indisputable fact.

So... it is perfectly normal for everyone to question everything. Including this vaccine and any other vaccine coming down the line.

We all have to ask questions... trust the people we know... and critically think our way through the next decade.
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I agree with most of what you've said above, but 1) This isn't a vaccine (it is gene therapy), and 2) you failed to recognize or acknowledge that the genetic changes this gene therapy LIKELY makes will almost certainly be permanent and will not "leave the system" with the vaccine.

To put this into GLP language, this is "playing God" on the level of Atlantean genetic scientists. It will not end well if permitted to continue.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


This
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
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Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
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shove your fake degrees up your ass

hows it feel studing fake shit that you were toooo dumb to figure out "your being had". hahaah. have fun paying those loans back. smartieee
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My loans were all paid off decades ago working for My Uncle Sam.
You cant recall my knowledge base or success at implementation of it.
I know poison when I see it and I for sure see and smell bullshit before being fooled into tasting it.
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Listeria.
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transfers of information from RNA to DNA are explicitly held possible.[2][3][4]"

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This is what I wrote above.
It is unclear what it means for us, but it is clear that mRNA can integrate into our DNA.

If You want to try out, what it means, take the VAXX and tell us in a few years, how You feel (if You are still alive).

BTW, the claim: A vaxx is taken just once and disappears afterward, so there can't be any long time effects is like the claim: A nuke explodes just once and there should afterwards be no long-time effects. (ask the folks from Hiroshima and Nagasaki).

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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


shove your fake degrees up your ass

hows it feel studing fake shit that you were toooo dumb to figure out "your being had". hahaah. have fun paying those loans back. smartieee
 Quoting: Big Cheez


Grad school for hard sciences are no cost to the grad student and you also get paid stipend to get the PhD. If you had one you would know this.
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Time for them to go back to babbling about Light Workers, Flat Earth, Nibiru, Chemtrails, Bible Quotes, etc., etc.


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Maybe we should. Let us die of Covid if we don't want the vaccine. What's it to you?
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


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Yeah, just like 99% of scientists believe that climate change is man made. Scientists are never wrong, statistics never skewed nor concocted to political (and funding) advantage, and scientists never have normalcy or confirmation bias. We're good. We can trust these "humble" and "impartial" scientists, politicians and think tanks.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


This
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


Yeah, just like 99% of scientists believe that climate change is man made. Scientists are never wrong, statistics never skewed nor concocted to political (and funding) advantage, and scientists never have normalcy or confirmation bias. We're good. We can trust these "humble" and "impartial" scientists, politicians and think tanks.
 Quoting: Inquire Within


Most scientists I work with don't believe this. Don't believe the news
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arab who worked for roths childs
leaves country
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you don wanna take itttttt...!
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
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Since these vaccines are drug trials, I am wondering if most people understand what this means? There are people who get the true vaccine and others who do not get the vaccine, some people maybe dying from the vaccine, and you don't know if these are the ones who got the vaccine or not. You in other word are there lab rats. Do people understand this in reality or did the propaganda convince them this was a safe and tested vaccine? Truth this is the largest testing of a vaccine in history as far as I know, of course it could be possible they have done it before without people knowing. This one is known with just a bit of research.

From what I read, the antibodies are not being seen, the health problems are being seen though, are they the ones who got the vaccine is the question.

I would say they have a form for you to sign, and most don't read them. You can not sue them, they have immunity here in the US thank to congress.

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