I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine

So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine

I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.

Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.

For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.

Because we are back to anonymous posters starting anti-science, anti-vaccine threads that are based on lies told a thousand times.
Everything in the OP is wrong and based on anti-vaccine lies.
This entire thread is nothing more than a blatant attempt to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) about the vaccines.
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You'll note the anonymous OP made no citations to back his false anti-vax claims...
How about he provide some evidence that what he stated in the OP is based on fact?
Won't happen because it is all a lie.

R
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.

Because we are back to anonymous posters starting anti-science, anti-vaccine threads that are based on lies told a thousand times.
Everything in the OP is wrong and based on anti-vaccine lies.
This entire thread is nothing more than a blatant attempt to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) about the vaccines.
.
You'll note the anonymous OP made no citations to back his false anti-vax claims...
How about he provide some evidence that what he stated in the OP is based on fact?
Won't happen because it is all a lie.

R
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

How does this happen with RNA in your universe?

If this were true (It isn't.) then the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 could also "contribute to cancer" but at a much higher rate since the disease infection would have your cells produce many times the spike protein that the vaccine produces.

Readers - Just try to remember what a vaccine is doing:
It is giving your body the knowledge on how to identify and defeat the dangerous invader so when you do get invaded by the virus your immune system wins the race between virus replication and immune response. It's like running the 100 meter sprint but the vaccine gives you a 50 meter head start. Generally it takes your body 10-14 days to mount a full response to a virus it has never seen. In that time the virus has had time to replicate extensively and you become very ill before your immune system can come to the rescue. Much too often your naive immune system is too late and the victim dies or is seriously harmed.
Vaccines drop that 10-14 days to around 1-2 days before your immune system starts cranking up your defenses.

This is not a game so quit listening to anonymous morons and unqualified kooks and quacks on the internet.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.

I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.

I am not new to the forum, I can’t remember my password and don’t know how to ask trinity to unlock it. The base I am coming from is studies of the vaccine done BEFORE covid. They did not get approved because they were not working, failed and caused major autoimmune reactions. Like I said I probably did not get the process correct. But something is amiss when you have a virus with a high survival rate and this vaccine is being pushed down your throat every other second. Why are they not talking about getting fresh air, vit d, zinc and sunlight? Why are they keeping us indoors? Why are they not giving Regeneron more when it has a 80% effective rate? These are questions a lot of us have

The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.