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I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
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why do you think they are pushing the vaccine so hard?? They know its going to harm us.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
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Pretty much it generates a graft vs HOST condition that is permanent.
You'll all end up on steroids and biologics and chronic autoimmune disease which is a permanent nightmare.
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your dna does not fight it off

it is the fact that your cells never stop making the spike protein

it gets spewed all over your cells and your immune system never stops attacking it
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
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Pretty much it generates a graft vs HOST condition that is permanent.
You'll all end up on steroids and biologics and chronic autoimmune disease which is a permanent nightmare.
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My issue is, why are people so dumb and not looking into it. From the looks of it, it’s our saving grace. But if you take 10 minutes and ask important questions, you learn that this is just an experiment. Why aren’t people questioning why it hasn’t worked in the past? Why isn’t it approved for other viruses? Because they news is saying, oh it’s not big deal, it’s been studied for 20 plus years. So people take that and run. I have friends that have given it to their 16 year old daughters and I cringe. I don’t tell people not to get it, I just tell them to study it. PEG has been linked to sever allergic reactions as well as infertility. But hey, I’m no scientist
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
This article suggests as much:

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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
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Ok great I’m ready, what’s your knowledge on it? I would like to know where I am wrong
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how long does a cell live for ? forever ? nope. new cells with replace it without any problem.

What are your credentials and peer reviewed published article ? that is study.

you researched and listened to what you want to hear.

you can hear whatever you want if you go looking for it.

especially when disinfo is being spread by enemies
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how long does a cell live for ? forever ? nope. new cells with replace it without any problem.

What are your credentials and peer reviewed published article ? that is study.

you researched and listened to what you want to hear.

you can hear whatever you want if you go looking for it.

especially when disinfo is being spread by enemies
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Not only forever for you, but your offspring too.

Google gene drive
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Having antibodies doesn't mean the virus will be beaten, or go away. Animal vets even know this with ASF in swine. And why PCR only is not used in dealing with it, and needs ELISA with it to detect the nasty, that PCR only helps hide.

Also, the mRNA is the Synthia lifeform that is written by a computer, and made with 4 chemicals. They ride in and flip the switches in the human..whatever Craig's team programs it to do.


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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Pretty much it generates a graft vs HOST condition that is permanent.
You'll all end up on steroids and biologics and chronic autoimmune disease which is a permanent nightmare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


My issue is, why are people so dumb and not looking into it. From the looks of it, it’s our saving grace. But if you take 10 minutes and ask important questions, you learn that this is just an experiment. Why aren’t people questioning why it hasn’t worked in the past? Why isn’t it approved for other viruses? Because they news is saying, oh it’s not big deal, it’s been studied for 20 plus years. So people take that and run. I have friends that have given it to their 16 year old daughters and I cringe. I don’t tell people not to get it, I just tell them to study it. PEG has been linked to sever allergic reactions as well as infertility. But hey, I’m no scientist
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Fact is official and quasiofficial and nonofficial but govt approved outlets are purposely LYING about what the warnings and details of risk the inserts make plain and contain.

Then to add to the insult they come up with a sweetheart non liability deal to insure private industrial profitability which excluded every single persons right to representation and informed consent.
There is literally NOBODY providing informed consent to potential harm and probable victims.
Noobody is even looking to identify examples of harm, esplaining anything of concern as coincidence.

THERE IS NOBODY OFFICIALLY REQUIRED TO BE OBJECTIVE at any point in the process.
The public has no advocate.
NONE.

If thats not how a killing machine works I dont know wh8at ii
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
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Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
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Ok so what part did I have wrong? And explain the mRNA vaccine then
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
 Quoting: Carley 80219481


Having antibodies doesn't mean the virus will be beaten, or go away. Animal vets even know this with ASF in swine. And why PCR only is not used in dealing with it, and needs ELISA with it to detect the nasty, that PCR only helps hide.

Also, the mRNA is the Synthia lifeform that is written by a computer, and made with 4 chemicals. They ride in and flip the switches in the human..whatever Craig's team programs it to do.


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I dont believe they can generate error free synthetic mRna, knowing that organic chemistry synhesis products are never driven to 100% completion of pure desired product.

Where is this modern miracle being performed and whos guaranteeing its not something else or contaminated?
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
mRnA

cancer

period



facts.


MrnA is the #1 factor in some cancers.

facts.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437



Ok so what part did I have wrong? And explain the mRNA vaccine then
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I cant explain what doesnt exist and hasnt been proven, its not incumbent upon ME to prove a negative to your satisfaction.
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The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437



Ok so what part did I have wrong? And explain the mRNA vaccine then
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I cant explain what doesnt exist and hasnt been proven, its not incumbent upon ME to prove a negative to your satisfaction.
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The mRNA vaccine does exist, they are using it
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[link to www.mskcc.org (secure)]


heres research

mrna cancers



pre vaccine propaganda, its worth a duece
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Ill put up my doctorates and employment in he field up against yours.
Not just piled up higher and deeper.
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Ok so what part did I have wrong? And explain the mRNA vaccine then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219481


I cant explain what doesnt exist and hasnt been proven, its not incumbent upon ME to prove a negative to your satisfaction.
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The mRNA vaccine does exist, they are using it
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A misdefined innoculation exists, but it doesnt fit the proper, traditional definition of a vaccine as it doesnt prevent infection or transmission and it sets up a graft vs host condition that artificially and pathologically stimulates an immune stimulation that is of questionable benefit to the individual recieving it or the society fooled into accepting it at face value.
I for one dont just accept new things from strangers looking to become wealthy at face value.
Perhaps you should have learned that in your edumacational experience?
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
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Yup, but I am simply a layman on this subject. OP lost me at "your DNA fights..."

So, as a geneticist and biologist, I must ask if you will take the vaccine?

My 83 yr old, COPD stage 4 mom did. She has had both injections and is no worse for wear than prior to. NO SIDE EFFECTS whatsoever, so far.
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Ok so what part did I have wrong? And explain the mRNA vaccine then
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I cant explain what doesnt exist and hasnt been proven, its not incumbent upon ME to prove a negative to your satisfaction.
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The mRNA vaccine does exist, they are using it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219481


A misdefined innoculation exists, but it doesnt fit the proper, traditional definition of a vaccine as it doesnt prevent infection or transmission and it sets up a graft vs host condition that artificially and pathologically stimulates an immune stimulation that is of questionable benefit to the individual recieving it or the society fooled into accepting it at face value.
I for one dont just accept new things from strangers looking to become wealthy at face value.
Perhaps you should have learned that in your edumacational experience?
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I did learn that, what I am saying is people should question this vaccine. If it hasn’t worked in the past on other viruses, why would it suddenly work for this one. Maybe I didn’t get all of the sequencing correct, but I did find it has caused autoimmune symptoms in test animals as well as death
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
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Then why don't you tell him where he's wrong and set things straight for everyone?
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This thread has some interesting discussion...
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I cant explain what doesnt exist and hasnt been proven, its not incumbent upon ME to prove a negative to your satisfaction.
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The mRNA vaccine does exist, they are using it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80219481


A misdefined innoculation exists, but it doesnt fit the proper, traditional definition of a vaccine as it doesnt prevent infection or transmission and it sets up a graft vs host condition that artificially and pathologically stimulates an immune stimulation that is of questionable benefit to the individual recieving it or the society fooled into accepting it at face value.
I for one dont just accept new things from strangers looking to become wealthy at face value.
Perhaps you should have learned that in your edumacational experience?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


I did learn that, what I am saying is people should question this vaccine. If it hasn’t worked in the past on other viruses, why would it suddenly work for this one. Maybe I didn’t get all of the sequencing correct, but I did find it has caused autoimmune symptoms in test animals as well as death
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To my way if evaluation the entire process is not believable at every node.
Its being lied about, hidden, indemnified and immunized against liability.
Its not proven to be beneficial, and while some in the short term havent outwardly been harmed, theres no proof of benefit to anyone but the patent holders and established distribution apparatus.
Generally complicated biologic systems do not tolerate complicated and novel manipulations and most genetic mutations are lethal or harmful to the organism over the short term.
Flogging a system as complex as the immune and inflammation cascades is not a good idea, any may be just why everyone I know has some kind of chronic disease or inflammatory process.
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The way I understand it is mRNA is the blue print for the little 3D printers that print things called proteins in your cells. The trick is getting I to the cell which they do with some chemicals. Once the proteins are in the ribosomes start constructing the spike protein of the virus which your immune system sees as something bad and starts to build antibodies to attack it. Once there are no more plans being made ie the injection runs out. The spike protein stops being made. The only thing I don’t get is if your body makes the protein why does it see it as bad and as something to attack.
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The way I understand it is mRNA is the blue print for the little 3D printers that print things called proteins in your cells. The trick is getting I to the cell which they do with some chemicals. Once the proteins are in the ribosomes start constructing the spike protein of the virus which your immune system sees as something bad and starts to build antibodies to attack it. Once there are no more plans being made ie the injection runs out. The spike protein stops being made. The only thing I don’t get is if your body makes the protein why does it see it as bad and as something to attack.
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EVERYONE suffering with an autoimmune disease, like myself, also wants to know exactly when an why they got so 'lucky' as to have the living hell of an autoimmune condition.

We can only imagine we understand some fragments of how the fantastically complex system works.
Nobody knows it all, at least I admit it.

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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
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For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


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So I was wondering what the horrible thing about this mRNA vaccine is. It seems simple and innocent and will save lives. Here’s what I got
They have been studying mRNA vaccines for 20 years now, they have tried it with Zika, the regular flu, HIV and cancer. Not one has been approved for use. It seems in trials something goes wrong. In animal trial they develop autoimmune diseases or die.

They inject us with mRNA, the mRNA binds to the outside of the cell, calling in protein to make the antibodies. The antibodies fight off the virus and all is dandy. The mRNA is then supposed to disappear into our system and not go into the cell. Some scientists have found the mRNA goes into the cell and bonds with the DNA, the DNA is like hey, your not supposed to be here and starts fighting it off. This could lead to autoimmune diseases later in life or even death right now. These scientists are quickly silenced and called quacks. The media won’t cover all of the bad reactions. Some people are strong enough to fight this off but some, like the sick and elderly can not. I guess in short, don’t get this vaccine
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If it can change cells it can contribute to cancer.
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I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
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Then instead of being a jerk why not tell us why the poster is wrong.
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Re: I’ve been studying the mRNA vaccine
I don't know what the F you've been "studying" or if you have learning disabilities, but as a molecular biologist and geneticist, I can tell you unequivocally, that your "description" is no where near accurate.
 Quoting: President Elect - SloGenPhys


The thing about doing your own research is having the knowledge to come to a reasonable conclusion, which 99% of this board doesn't have with any topic they discuss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76847005


For both statements:
Exactly.

Remember you are dealing with people who believe the earth is flat, that they are space aliens, that jetliner exhaust is deadly "chemtrails", that we are in Teh End Times (for the 2,000th time), and other even more bizarre fantasy based beliefs.

It makes no difference to the anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks that there is no mechanism for the mRNA in the vaccine to even come into contact with your nuclear DNA and, by the way, RNA and DNA are quite different chemicals and one does not interact with the other... It's called biochemistry which a moronic computer scientist wouldn't know a thing about.

They can't even do a Giggle search on "COVID mRNA vaccine" to get hundreds of webpages and RubeTube vids explaining how the mRNA vaccines work... Which is nothing like the laughable "science" these dimwits babble here on GLP.

For those who want a quick explanation:
The vaccine contains the mRNA sequence needed to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein... That is all it can make is that one protein. mRNA is encapsulated to protect it and to get it across the cell membrane into the cytoplasm. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm and cannot get into the cell nucleus.

Once in the cytoplasm the cell ribosomes hook on and read the mRNA code to assemble amino acids in the cytoplasm into the desired spike protein.
The spike protein is expressed on the surface of the cell and induces an immune response from the body to produce antibodies to the spike protein.
Voila! You have just been vaccinated.

mRNA is RNA and RNA is very fragile (unlike DNA) and rapidly falls apart when exposed to the cell environment... lasting 24 hours or less... so your vaccine stops working in a day or two. (Why 2 if it doesn't last a day? Because the unprotected RNA generally doesn't last longer than a day but the encapsulated mRNA is protected so until it is taken up by a cell and the mRNA is released it is still active... It ain't that hard to understand, is it?)

Just G**gle "COVID mRNA vaccine" and only read info from qualified science/med sites such as Johns Hopkins, Harvard, CDC, etc. Do not get your info from anti-science, anti-vaccine kooks like lawyers, comp. scientists, "internet influencers", untrained doctors, untrained scientists and engineers, etc.
There are a lot of kooks lying to you and begging you for money to help them continue lying to others.

Get your vaccine and quit listening to flat earth kooks about something as important as your health.


R.
Kooks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420



Thank you for explaining. Why are you on here then? Get your vaccine. I don’t need it ( I donate my covid blood so have the antibodies) nor do I think it is safe. If, when my antibodies are gone, and everyone around me hasn’t killed over from their vaccine, I might think about taking it. But until then. I’m good.

These people I have read have been silenced by the media, why are they being silenced if they are “wrong”?





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