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Biden recently had said that in the case of the Russian aggression, the US will side with Kiev.

Biden calls Ukraine's leader, pledges "unwavering support" in the face of Russian "aggression"

[link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)]

Putin could easily take advantage of this by issuing an ultimatum to Ukrainian junta in power to cease and desist or else. Most Ukrainians, Russians, the people from neighboring former Soviet republics, and "russians" all around the world would totally support Putin if he would ever extend this ultimatum. Even Ukrainian military forces would be relieved by this ultimatum because they don't want to go to war and die. Without this ultimatum, the military is most likely to be ordered to go get Crimea back. These orders are not even from the Ukrainian President but rather from Biden.

The Ukrainian President is between 3 sharp blades. While one says go to war, another says don't even think about it. Both are threatening to kill the President personally. He also has the lunatic nationalists who are calling for a war with Russia and have the real power in Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Zelensky is scared and powerless right now because he knows that all threats are real and he can't do anything about it. He needs someone who will stop him from giving out the order and someone whom has the power to stop not only those lunatic Nazis but also Biden.

Thus, there is an opportunity for Putin to lead and deal a blow to Biden's reputation. Putin has to issue the ultimatum for the junta to resign and be forced to sign a treaty and stop their current political vector completely.
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I also get the sense that the Ultimatum will be used.
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Great Thread.

Fuck NATO, The West & Their Law!
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This is a great example of why leveraging your government position (especially the White House) is treason. The Biden family has taken money from Ukrane AND Russia (not to mention China) so he has to do what one of them says, and risks being rolled over by the other one.

Wow, pretty convenient that the left has been shouting RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA for the past several years. Ukraine has paid the Bidens more than Russia has, so when he betrays Russia and they squawk, he'll just say "see, they lie."

The China/Taiwan situation is worse, though. PedoJoe and his creepshow family have to side with China, but the United States will be hurt very badly by the demise of Taipei. They supply us with a lot of high-tech. Chips, tools, computers, etc...PedoJoe has completely sold out Taiwan and the U.S. by getting paid by the Chinese.

When all of this goes bad, I hope we have a country left that can prosecute, imprison and execute those who have so cravenly sold us out for money.

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This is a great example of why leveraging your government position (especially the White House) is treason. The Biden family has taken money from Ukrane AND Russia (not to mention China) so he has to do what one of them says, and risks being rolled over by the other one.

Wow, pretty convenient that the left has been shouting RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA for the past several years. Ukraine has paid the Bidens more than Russia has, so when he betrays Russia and they squawk, he'll just say "see, they lie."

The China/Taiwan situation is worse, though. PedoJoe and his creepshow family have to side with China, but the United States will be hurt very badly by the demise of Taipei. They supply us with a lot of high-tech. Chips, tools, computers, etc...PedoJoe has completely sold out Taiwan and the U.S. by getting paid by the Chinese.

When all of this goes bad, I hope we have a country left that can prosecute, imprison and execute those who have so cravenly sold us out for money.
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Russia hasn't paid anything to Biden. Some Russian businesswoman did and what for nobody knows and no one has proven the claim that Russia paid anything.
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Biden recently had said that in the case of the Russian aggression, the US will side with Kiev.

Biden calls Ukraine's leader, pledges "unwavering support" in the face of Russian "aggression"

[link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)]

Putin could easily take advantage of this by issuing an ultimatum to Ukrainian junta in power to cease and desist or else. Most Ukrainians, Russians, the people from neighboring former Soviet republics, and "russians" all around the world would totally support Putin if he would ever extend this ultimatum. Even Ukrainian military forces would be relieved by this ultimatum because they don't want to go to war and die. Without this ultimatum, the military is most likely to be ordered to go get Crimea back. These orders are not even from the Ukrainian President but rather from Biden.

The Ukrainian President is between 3 sharp blades. While one says go to war, another says don't even think about it. Both are threatening to kill the President personally. He also has the lunatic nationalists who are calling for a war with Russia and have the real power in Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Zelensky is scared and powerless right now because he knows that all threats are real and he can't do anything about it. He needs someone who will stop him from giving out the order and someone whom has the power to stop not only those lunatic Nazis but also Biden.

Thus, there is an opportunity for Putin to lead and deal a blow to Biden's reputation. Putin has to issue the ultimatum for the junta to resign and be forced to sign a treaty and stop their current political vector completely.
 Quoting: CageyBee


Putin has his focus set and taking the targets he has mapped out,
and letting the chips fall where the be, otherwise.
He doesn't want to do anything to help Central and Northern Ukraine.
It's a shithole.
He's taking the Creme de la Creme and that's all.

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If there is a war, the war will be about regime change. That is why the russians are mobilizing forces at the Belarus border, close to Kiev.
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If there is a war, the war will be about regime change. That is why the russians are mobilizing forces at the Belarus border, close to Kiev.
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Right now Putin is just going to take what he wants,
and let the Regime in Kiev self destruct in good time.

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If there is a war, the war will be about regime change. That is why the russians are mobilizing forces at the Belarus border, close to Kiev.
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Right now Putin is just going to take what he wants,
and let the Regime in Kiev self destruct in good time.

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 Quoting: Angle Lee


Here is what will happen to Ukraine if Ukraine won't change its political vector.

https://imgur.com/jPvKryu
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Biden is an absolute foreign policy idiot. He provokes the Russians and invites China to invade Taiwan.

Thread: With the Democrats in power a big Military F-up that will get service members killed will happen

Thread: Four years of no New wars has ended.
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Biden is an absolute foreign policy idiot. He provokes the Russians and invites China to invade Taiwan.

Thread: With the Democrats in power a big Military F-up that will get service members killed will happen

Thread: Four years of no New wars has ended.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


China doesn't need to invade Taiwan and will never do so. China is trying to win the minds of Taiwanese, not take them by force. The whole, thing about the Chinese invasion is a propaganda campaign, designed to make you hate Chinese. Look, they even made up a way to call a space in international waters as "Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ)". This is a new and clever way to call international waters so that the audience perceives those that are in that "zone" as aggressors. Those propagandists are so clever. For shits and giggles, do a Google News search with the term "Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone" to see how far the propagandists are taking this.

TPTB first run demonization campaigns, brainwashing people with hatred against their enemies. And after they brainwash you to hate, you become ready to be sent to a war and they often do send you to a war.

Notice, they don't teach you to say, "Hey, let's sit down with China and make a deal from which everyone in the world would win." No, they don't brainwash you to have that ethical mentality. They brainwash you to hate, no matter what and they provide you with endless reasons to hate like, "Uyghurs", "forced labor camps", "forced reeducation camps", "crackdown on Christians", "human rights violations", "Chinavirus", "China owns America", etc, etc.

They do this so that this hate travels and gets to the Chinese citizens so that they would feel bad about their own government and rise against it. These exact methods were used against the USSR. TPTB have brainwashed you to believe that you have to hate Communism and they have completely distorted the view about Communism and placed an enormous amount of barriers so that people wouldn't dare to find out for themselves what really is Communism instead of just believing what they heard on the "History" Channel or from their "expert" teachers.

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Biden is an absolute foreign policy idiot. He provokes the Russians and invites China to invade Taiwan.

Thread: With the Democrats in power a big Military F-up that will get service members killed will happen

Thread: Four years of no New wars has ended.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


China doesn't need to invade Taiwan and will never do so. China is trying to win the minds of Taiwanese, not take them by force. The whole, thing about the Chinese invasion is a propaganda campaign, designed to make you hate Chinese. Look, they even made up a way to call a space in international waters as "Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ)"? This is a new and clever way to call international waters so that the audience perceives those that are in that "zone" as aggressors. Those propagandists are so clever.

TPTB first run demonization campaigns, brainwashing people with hatred against their enemies. And after they brainwash you to hate, you become ready to be sent to a war and they often do send you to a war.

Notice, they don't teach you to say, "Hey, let's sit down with China and make a deal from which everyone in the world would win." No, they don't brainwash you to have that ethical mentality. They brainwash you to hate, no matter what and they provide you with endless reasons to hate like, "Uyghurs", "forced labor camps", "forced reeducation camps", "crackdown on Christians", "human rights violations", "Chinavirus", "China owns America", etc, etc.

They do this so that this hate travels and gets to the Chinese citizens so that they would feel bad about their own government and rise against it. These exact methods were used against the USSR. TPTB have brainwashed you to believe that you have to hate Communism and they have completely distorted the view about Communism and placed an enormous amount of barriers so that people wouldn't dare to find out for themselves what really is Communism instead of just believing what they heard on the "History" Channel or from their "expert" teachers.
 Quoting: CageyBee


The Biden Administration doesn't see Taiwan as America's problem. That's practically an invitation for China to take it, hook or crook, by politics or war.



The first points you made I pretty much agree with, about Putin could declare an ultimatum and pressure Ukraine's president.

Your points about communism almost seem sympathetic, but I could be wrong. Communism is the greatest, genocidal killer in the history of mankind. No brain washing there, just historical fact. And China is more communistic than Russia is today.

Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 04/05/2021 04:20 PM
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
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"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Biden is an absolute foreign policy idiot. He provokes the Russians and invites China to invade Taiwan.

Thread: With the Democrats in power a big Military F-up that will get service members killed will happen

Thread: Four years of no New wars has ended.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


China doesn't need to invade Taiwan and will never do so. China is trying to win the minds of Taiwanese, not take them by force. The whole, thing about the Chinese invasion is a propaganda campaign, designed to make you hate Chinese. Look, they even made up a way to call a space in international waters as "Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ)"? This is a new and clever way to call international waters so that the audience perceives those that are in that "zone" as aggressors. Those propagandists are so clever.

TPTB first run demonization campaigns, brainwashing people with hatred against their enemies. And after they brainwash you to hate, you become ready to be sent to a war and they often do send you to a war.

Notice, they don't teach you to say, "Hey, let's sit down with China and make a deal from which everyone in the world would win." No, they don't brainwash you to have that ethical mentality. They brainwash you to hate, no matter what and they provide you with endless reasons to hate like, "Uyghurs", "forced labor camps", "forced reeducation camps", "crackdown on Christians", "human rights violations", "Chinavirus", "China owns America", etc, etc.

They do this so that this hate travels and gets to the Chinese citizens so that they would feel bad about their own government and rise against it. These exact methods were used against the USSR. TPTB have brainwashed you to believe that you have to hate Communism and they have completely distorted the view about Communism and placed an enormous amount of barriers so that people wouldn't dare to find out for themselves what really is Communism instead of just believing what they heard on the "History" Channel or from their "expert" teachers.
 Quoting: CageyBee


The Biden Administration doesn't see Taiwan as America's problem. That's practically an invitation for China to take it, hook or crook, by politics or war.



The first points you made I pretty much agree with, about Putin could declare an ultimatum and pressure Ukraine's president.

Your points about communism almost seem sympathetic, but I could be wrong. Communism is the greatest, genocidal killer in the history of mankind. No brain washing there, just historical fact. And China is more communistic than Russia is today.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


Sure, both China and USSR have made mistakes in the implementation of Communism but only those that don't do anything don't make mistakes. If you recall, the USSR voluntarily and on its own, upon a recommendation from a Moscow State University researchers, came out with Perestroika, which was going to transform the USSR into a modern prestigious democratic society, far more prestigious than any country in the world. This was a big no-no for TPTB. They had to do something and they interfered and ruined the USSR with their "Democracy". Since then, Russians have learned their lesson and if you'll talk to adults 40 and over - majority of them will tell you that they want their USSR back. The CPRF (Russian Communist Party) has a very large support and this support has been growing lately.

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You think the world would be a better place if every one was subjected to a communist system?

huh
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You think the world would be a better place if every one was subjected to a communist system?

huh
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USSR was a true conservative state. They had a planned economy to conserve resources and to live within means.

They did not have a credit-based system that enslaves people. If you bought something that required payments, you paid principal only.

If you bought hotdogs in the store, there was only 1 kind but those hotdogs were the best hotdogs you could ever taste and you paid for them what it cost to produce.

You did not pay any taxes. None.

Everyone was guaranteed a free home.

Everyone was guaranteed free and highest education.

Everyone was guaranteed free housing.

Everyone was guaranteed exploitation-free workplace and a job. Yes, jobs were looking for you, not the other way around.

It was a classless society: our next door neighbor was a Minister of the Department of Energy of the Azerbaijan Republic. The difference in pay wasn't like it is here. He made like 500-600 rubles per month while my mother made 120 working as a cashier. This is why the USSR had the "Iron Curtain". If people would see the Western lifestyle, they would lose sight of the real freedom.

USSR's media wasn't allowed to have conclusive language. The media wasn't allowed to argue for anything and provide you with their opinions. They could only report what they saw. This was the real freedom of press. CNN could learn a lot from the Soviet press.

In a Communist state, Socialism is the reward. As the "family" becomes more successful, so does the life. Socialism is uncapped but has to be evenly distributed so as not to create imbalance and classes.

In a Fascist state, TPTB are stingy with their money and they want Socialism to be paid for by the working class itself. They want you to pay for yourself while allowing them to plunder you. Look below. Do you see what was happening under Obama? The Middle class got robbed while the top 1% got richer.

https://imgur.com/5x8Nzjy


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Bumping because I told you about this back in March and Putin literally just issued an Ultimatum to the US if you guys didn't know. We are at a brink of either a war or a total collapse of the US completely and Europe as well. The question is, will they go down civilly. All Putin is asking is to retreat forces, but this retreat will mean that Europe no longer needs the protection from the US, which will reduce the power of the US which will reduce US's influence, which in turn will result in prices on most important resources skyrocketing, which will destroy the economy. On top of that, the Military Industrial Complex will have to be drastically restructured and controlled. What will they do?
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Biden is an absolute foreign policy idiot. He provokes the Russians and invites China to invade Taiwan.

Thread: With the Democrats in power a big Military F-up that will get service members killed will happen

Thread: Four years of no New wars has ended.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


China doesn't need to invade Taiwan and will never do so. China is trying to win the minds of Taiwanese, not take them by force. The whole, thing about the Chinese invasion is a propaganda campaign, designed to make you hate Chinese. Look, they even made up a way to call a space in international waters as "Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ)". This is a new and clever way to call international waters so that the audience perceives those that are in that "zone" as aggressors. Those propagandists are so clever. For shits and giggles, do a Google News search with the term "Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone" to see how far the propagandists are taking this.

TPTB first run demonization campaigns, brainwashing people with hatred against their enemies. And after they brainwash you to hate, you become ready to be sent to a war and they often do send you to a war.

Notice, they don't teach you to say, "Hey, let's sit down with China and make a deal from which everyone in the world would win." No, they don't brainwash you to have that ethical mentality. They brainwash you to hate, no matter what and they provide you with endless reasons to hate like, "Uyghurs", "forced labor camps", "forced reeducation camps", "crackdown on Christians", "human rights violations", "Chinavirus", "China owns America", etc, etc.

They do this so that this hate travels and gets to the Chinese citizens so that they would feel bad about their own government and rise against it. These exact methods were used against the USSR. TPTB have brainwashed you to believe that you have to hate Communism and they have completely distorted the view about Communism and placed an enormous amount of barriers so that people wouldn't dare to find out for themselves what really is Communism instead of just believing what they heard on the "History" Channel or from their "expert" teachers.
 Quoting: CageyBee


WRONG.
We have all seen how communism's fugly stepdaughter, socialism, works in our countries.
This disgusting ideology is all about dividing a society along every line imaginable, normalising abominations such as abortion, tearing the family apart and the end of all forms of community.

Keep your filthy communism, and any other similar ideals.
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Biden is an absolute foreign policy idiot. He provokes the Russians and invites China to invade Taiwan.

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Thread: Four years of no New wars has ended.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


China doesn't need to invade Taiwan and will never do so. China is trying to win the minds of Taiwanese, not take them by force. The whole, thing about the Chinese invasion is a propaganda campaign, designed to make you hate Chinese. Look, they even made up a way to call a space in international waters as "Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ)". This is a new and clever way to call international waters so that the audience perceives those that are in that "zone" as aggressors. Those propagandists are so clever. For shits and giggles, do a Google News search with the term "Taiwan's Air Defense Identification Zone" to see how far the propagandists are taking this.

TPTB first run demonization campaigns, brainwashing people with hatred against their enemies. And after they brainwash you to hate, you become ready to be sent to a war and they often do send you to a war.

Notice, they don't teach you to say, "Hey, let's sit down with China and make a deal from which everyone in the world would win." No, they don't brainwash you to have that ethical mentality. They brainwash you to hate, no matter what and they provide you with endless reasons to hate like, "Uyghurs", "forced labor camps", "forced reeducation camps", "crackdown on Christians", "human rights violations", "Chinavirus", "China owns America", etc, etc.

They do this so that this hate travels and gets to the Chinese citizens so that they would feel bad about their own government and rise against it. These exact methods were used against the USSR. TPTB have brainwashed you to believe that you have to hate Communism and they have completely distorted the view about Communism and placed an enormous amount of barriers so that people wouldn't dare to find out for themselves what really is Communism instead of just believing what they heard on the "History" Channel or from their "expert" teachers.
 Quoting: CageyBee


You have lost it op, Communism has been evil since its conception.

All you have to do is look at your nations own history
and what the communists are trying to do to America.


Communism is luciferin its founder dedicated his life to Lucifer
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Bumping because I told you about this back in March and Putin literally just issued an Ultimatum to the US if you guys didn't know. We are at a brink of either a war or a total collapse of the US completely and Europe as well. The question is, will they go down civilly. All Putin is asking is to retreat forces, but this retreat will mean that Europe no longer needs the protection from the US, which will reduce the power of the US which will reduce US's influence, which in turn will result in prices on most important resources skyrocketing, which will destroy the economy. On top of that, the Military Industrial Complex will have to be drastically restructured and controlled. What will they do?
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Are you aware that the US Just delivered thousands of tanks and apache choppers to europe?

This is not gonna be fun for your nation
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