Free will

I'm just glad that's not how it is.

depends on which timeline i guess... lol

Ok cool.

In friendship and love,

-Razrin

Can u clarify this part for me... :)

Are you glad with current reality, or are you glad the aforementioned hypothetical situation doesn't exist?

Curious to hear your thoughts.

In friendship and love,

-Razrin

Of course, friend.

Lets say, you want to buy a car.

And you can only buy them in black, because Henry Ford says thats the only color he wants to make fords in.

You have freewill to choose the car.

But your ability to create the choices to select from are limited and determined by predetermination.

So you have complete freedom to choose the available options.


But not freedom to create the choices.

The choices are served by your time line.

I would love to hear what you think about this clarification. Let me know if you need further clarification.

Thank you.

In friendship and love,

-Razrin

Geddy Lee will explain just in one song.

Hi Spec!

:)

Nani yatteta-no?

In friendship and love,

-Razrin

It's a paradox that will never be fully understood.

Why do you say it will never be fully understood?

Free will/choice vs destiny/fate. It's a paradox. Paradoxes are not meant to be solved. Hense, life is the ultimate paradox.

I understand what you are expressing.

One common theme found in high achievers is their ability to work through a paradox.

-Razrin

Give me an example where "high achievers" have solved one.

Besides, what constitutes a high achiever anyway. One would say that a man who accumulates lots of money is one yet to a another, growing a nice vege garden might be a high achievement. A guru living in a cave who owns nothing might be another.

Who is wise enough to pass judgement? You?

as today,I was happy
yesterday I influenced reality successfully and made Romania beat France with 34-31
but today,a group of small children crossed my path
i was heavy with some courses and waited impatiently for them to pass
they were so slow...
and finally thier teacher said"why cant they wait?"
so,the answer is,Razrin:
too bad that you're not Atlantean
too bad that you do not understand freedom
for everyone does what they want to do
with responsability towards themselves
or with a lack of
but it is best to be free

Would you be disappointed that you do not have free control over the ability to create choices in life? Only the freedom to exercise your freewill?



Can u clarify this part for me... :)
Quoting: the_traveler


Of course, friend.

Lets say, you want to buy a car.

And you can only buy them in black, because Henry Ford says thats the only color he wants to make fords in.

You have freewill to choose the car.

But your ability to create the choices to select from are limited and determined by predetermination.

So you have complete freedom to choose the available options.


But not freedom to create the choices.

The choices are served by your time line.

I would love to hear what you think about this clarification. Let me know if you need further clarification.

Thank you.

In friendship and love,

-Razrin

... but but and but, lol, ya still do there too... and cuz just because Msr Ford may only want to make black cars it sure doesn't mean that you can't paint it whatever colour ya want once it's yours.
(and they did too, lol)


"its weird on this board


when you post a hoax or a something not true the tread its populair but when you post something that its true ... no one see this


hehehe weird people"
Quoting: Theteck

... no and no, not weird at all... truth has always been down played

wELL....let consider for a moment....that we came here to go to school......soo......think of the school of life like a MULTIPLE CHOICE QUIZ THAT YOU TAKE while your going to school.......there's 1 correct answer but you might have chosen the wrong answer....and missed that on the test....but guess what.....at the final exam of the year in that subject....the same question is on the test and now you know the correct answer ...so you get it right.....and IT'S GRADUATION TIME.

No, I wouldn't want to live on a planet where I couldn't create some of the choices (but if I did, I'd probably adapt..)
I think we get to choose wrong, technically, but God gives us more chances, and transforms the mistakes into part of the plan. If you give Him the power over your will, He can work unemcumbered to enlighten you..

WE actually live in a world similar to the one you describe, we have limited choices.

I believe it comes down to the parameters of purpose. The will is free as long as it acts within the purpose to which it was created.

We have many choices but they are limited to the scope of what we are here to achieve.

For instance I do not really have the choice to get up tomorrow morning and decide "I want to be a puppy dog today" this is not a choice given to me as a Human being in this time frame. I might dream of being a puppy dog, act like a puppy dog, meditate on what being a puppy dog is like, but I will not truly become a puppy dog. My choices must come form certain parameters.

Your so close Calamity.

Are we really that important that some super being has time to micro-manage our little lives, the millions of lives upon this one planet?

Would it not stand to reason in order to do so inside each one of us is this "God" you speak of?

"I think we get to choose wrong, technically, but You give Yourself more chances, and transform the mistakes into part of the plan. If you give Yourself the power over your will, You can work unemcumbered to enlighten You.."

Now this to me seems to make some sort of sense of this sorry mess.

We may look back on it one day and thank ourselves for going through it ;)

PS:Like "The Insider" said I think once we work out or are allowed or are "told" or "feel" were we actually are, in what state, what is this planet, etc we will be there.

Freewill is the roads we all take to the same destination. Take the high or low I will see ya when we get there.

Cool.

I'm happy right now as well.

-Razrin

You, this thread.





I don't know; No.

Choices are create by other(s), you have ability to choose.




Yeah... I know what you're trying to say... you can paint it whatever color you want, thats your freewill, the time line still may dictate the choices available in the situation.






lol

of course
reality sets the perimeters
and choice is taken within the perimeters
of what is real
there is no choice in an unreal state

Perhaps the ability to create choices are made in an unreal state? hmmm