Let's talk about God

No, I’m speaking of The Great Spirit, The Creator, the One True God Over All that is called pagan and heathen by the Trinitarians.

Aaah, ok, the god you believe in is non-trinitarian.

Where did this god you believe in come from, if you don't mind me asking?

It’s a mystery, but to seek the All Highest God that one can conceive of is the way we grow spiritually. If you limit God you limit your growth.

How did you find out about this god?

God works in mysterious ways

And so does light

And so do our senses

That's all I have for the op's statement and anyone looking towards the bleak side of things

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By seeking, by searching, by reading, by being dissatisfied with and wanting to find a higher better God than the one portrayed in the Bible. One can’t continue to believe in something that no longer makes sense.
A god that told his people to go to war, to kill his enemies, to make animal sacrifices, to obey over 600 religious laws, and then blamed his followers, not his own bad advice, for their downfall, yeah that’s not a real god.
No point in wasting any time on trying to make it work.

Seeking and searching where?

The first book that I read as an atheist which brought me back to believing in something was ‘There Is A River’ by Thomas Sugrue.
Whenever I went to a library or bookstore after that I always went to the metaphysics/supernatural/UFO’s section.
Books like those found in this archive:
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Thank you for sharing and responding.

The bottom line for me, is, can this save you?

We were not originally created for death and decay. Yet that insidiously tragic and woeful plague\curse looms and hounds all of us.

THIS is the bottom line for me. Ever since i was a little kid i just knew that death was/is WRONG and that something is seriously amiss.

It doesn't make any sense that we're born, and then we just die, eventually.

Why be born in the first place if we're just inching towards the deadening reality of death.

THUD.

Yer dead.

What?

It makes no sense.

None.

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Death is necessary. Can you imagine how overpopulated the world would be if every animal continued reproducing forever? Even herbivores kill plants to eat.

Why be born if you're just going to die? That's a strange question. Why watch a movie if it's going to end? Because you enjoy it while it lasts.

That's not very comforting.

Isn't that akin to just "enjoying" yourself on a boat, headed for that waterfall that's further downriver, and you KNOW it's coming? Just heading for that waterfall and partying along the way?

Everyone dies and everyone lives forever in the afterlife.
That’s what I’ve learned.


Life is earnest! And the grave is not its goal; Dust thou art, to dust returnest, Was not spoken of the soul.

A Psalm of Life
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Thanks for this poem...i've never read the entire thing before, only parts of it.

He's speaking life and hopel and eternity...that's exactly what i was referring to. Otherwise we might as well be slabs of concrete, with NO consciousness. Can you imagine THAT?

There is nothing else that has politically screwed up humanity more than the positively no less than psychotic notion that evil exists among humans only because the allegedly first 2 humans disobeyed "God" and ate a magical fruit. Nowadays it's much more of a problem of those who DEFEND and coddle the various "true" believers than those who actually believe the bullshit. Still no less sad, pathetic.

Go dig your grave Snowman
Or you're ugly dead and worthless flesh suit will rot in the Sun

I'm in the red because my mind is distorting
People claiming they know me but they only know a portion



Don't you speak to one of mine like that you worthless piece of cowshit

You do not want to talk about God, you just want to complain about God. People want God to help but then get out of their way after He fixes everything. I would say read the book of Job especially the last several chapters.

People are given free will to accept Christ or not. God revels our nature and that we are sinful people deserving of hell. But you have a choice to accept the free gift he provides. I do not know how old you are but I am 58, almost 59, and can tell you it goes by fast. Eternity does not end. Once you draw you last breath you will be looking at God and the only question is have you accepted His son.
I believe an atheist becomes one by bad past experiences or they rely on their own intellect.
BTW, Christ himself spoke against religion. Religion is man made. Christianity is God made.

i'm thankful that God showed me that i'm not worthless (and neither is anyone else....we're all a bunch of wounded souls fighting back and/or crumpled on the floor like a deflated balloon, whimpering - like i was)....

i was kinda' like a spooked horse too, though.....0nly God Himself was able to approach me.

I'm thankful He did.

Otherwise i would've been in a fiery hell-ish place...

God KNEW in the deepest recesses of my heart that i didn't want to be there, and that i was like a spooked horse, wounded and bleeding.

He loved me in spite of myself.

You missed the point. I'm not trying to comfort you. I'm not your mommy.

I'm telling you that just because something doesn't last forever, that doesn't make it pointless. That's foolish. Why go out if you're just going to come home? Why listen to a song if it's just going to end? Life isn't pointless if you don't live forever. In fact, the opposite is true in a sense. If something is finite, it has MORE value. Eternal life might be a horrible curse.

I don't see how your boat analogy relates to what I said, but if I know the boat is going over the waterfall, and I know that I can't possibly escape, then yes, I should make the most of it. Are you saying that we should just run around in circles panicking?

Now that would be pointless, wouldn't it? Yet that might be the appropriate response on that boat if there was no escape.

There's a REASON that God is called the God of All Comfort.

Haven't you ever felt the need for comfort? Experienced bereavent, loss, grief, experienced a broken heart, a crushed spirit, cried?

How is that appropriate? Are you just disagreeing with me for the sake of it? Surely you agree that running around in circles panicking would not be productive. You'd just make your own remaining moments -and those around you- more unpleasant.

Have I ever cried? That's a stupid question. Yes, it feels good to be comforted, but the truth isn't always comforting. Life can be extremely cruel. It is better to become a stronger person than to rely on others for comfort.

I find this very comforting, and I hope you do to:-

God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son,
So that whoever believes in Him will not perish,
But shall have everlasting life.

John Chapter 3. Verse 16.

Believe, and live forever

That's a promise, from the creator of the universe, the uncaused cause of all things, existing independent of space and time, powerful and wise enough to create a trillion galaxies, kind and caring enough to give his Holy Spirit to dwell in each and every one of us.


That's why he is the God of all comfort.


The Bible is a timeless collection of 66 books containing the inspired Word of God, recorded by 40 different scribes and prophets, written over a period of about 1500 years.

Let the works of AW Tozer guide you though it, and it really could change your life.

This is not an April Fool!

A stronger person? We are FINITE. We die and crumble to the dust from whence we came. This is a MAJOR weakness and frailty, is it not? And WE can NOT change that, or SAVE ourselves. We, as it were, in the end, are put in a coffin, and when that lid is closed, we are "shut up" as we fade off into obscurity.

This doesn't cut it for me.

Yes, it IS comforting, thank You.

Imagine being immortal, and you get your leg tied to an anchor and you sink to the bottom of the deepest ocean. Surrounded by darkness, forever. After a thousand years, you'd still have only lived a tiny fraction of eternity.

You'd want to die.

God does look out for us, this is why we are still alive.

We must have the struggle, without it there is no growth.

As a parent you don’t always carry your child. You leave them on the floor and they struggle to move, crawl walk then run.

You don’t shield your children from the struggles of life, you instruct them, offer guidance. One of the huge failures of modern society is shielding children from the struggle. Without failure as a child you can’t deal with failure as an adult.

Your disgust with God is nothing more than a projection of your disgust with yourself and your own parents whom must have shielded you from life.

Stop blaming God for the problems of the world. If the problems bother you so much then be an adult and make a positive change in the world rather than bitching.

Stop being a droopy dog

i agree about eternity. That's exactly why i chose God's offer of grace. i would never want to be in eternal misery and regret and gnashing of teeth.

A 3 year old doesn't need to get raped to have growth, ffs. And what kind of parent would alow that? Your answer is a total fail.

During man’s evolvement/development on earth, there are periods of time when God’s angels are heavily involved in guiding and teaching and helping man, other times when they stand back and let man try more for himself. This period of time is one when mankind is supposed to be using what we have learned to help our fellow man. There is help available, but the point of it is to show us how to help ourselves and others, not do it for us.