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Alternative medicine people who work with magnets, tuning forks, and other methods claim that when they become well trained in their practice, they are eventually able to use their methods on a Stand-In person who represents the patient and some claim to be able to work on a person remotely with the various unseen fields, auras, chakras, etc.

We could argue whether or not these methods are real, but let's suppose they are...and I think that we on GLP would like to believe they are...

What does that tell us in a "bigger picture" kind of way, that these sorts of Holistic practices can be done through a surrogate/stand-in/remotely?
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Nobody cares so I'll spoil it for you:

1. If you can truly heal someone remotely or through a surrogate, it would suggest that all healing is energy directed by intention.

2. What if one enlightened person agreed to heal the entire world, could that action, if accepted, heal and cleanse a person of energetic "wrong"?

3. If that enlightened being received his insight through "Christ Consciousness" and told us to seek the same through the "Air" or Heart Chakra... would we not thusly find and accept that healing/cleansing power *and* the gift of being our surrogate that man chose to be for us?

In short, healing through surrogate when working in a body's energy fields is not only possible, it was already performed for you. You just never truly accepted or believed that it could be done and be so simple.

You find that belief through meditation and when you do, you WILL be transformed via the surrogate Jesus the Christ.

We are learning that we *can* do miracles, and the biggest miracle of all was the gift of our salvation by proxy all in one, and one for all.

Now, do you REALLY want to heal homeopathically and outside of the medical system?

Do you REALLY want to find and accept Christ to receive his very real and tangible gift that maybe now you more clearly understand the mechanism of?

Meditate, fast, enlighten and rise to the "Air" and meet Christ there.

Peace.
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Imagine for a minute that you broke your arm, an obvious break, but you refused to acknowledge it besides limiting moving your arm for a few weeks and dealing with the pain.

Would your arm heal properly? No of course not. You'd have ongoing issues probably for the rest of your life (and maybe into the next?...)

The same dynamic applies to every possible kind of wound: physical emotional spiritual; however you want to define it.

"Acknowledging" something is tricky business sometimes, and we often are too busy or distracted to properly and fully "acknowledge" things that are happening to us or around us. Mostly we've never been taught how to acknowledge and we don't know it's importance.

Acknowledging a wound or injury fully and completely is often all that is needed to make a lingering wound or ongoing healing issues completely disappear, because proper acknowledgment is the only thing that still hasn't been done in most cases.

Think of it this way: acknowledgment is the complete absence of denial in the face of utter acceptance of truth. If you aren't in a state of acknowledgment, you aren't fully connected to your body's abilities (to heal, etc.)

If you can give or show others the power of acknowledgment, you can be a great healer.
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Alternative medicine people who work with magnets, tuning forks, and other methods claim that when they become well trained in their practice, they are eventually able to use their methods on a Stand-In person who represents the patient and some claim to be able to work on a person remotely with the various unseen fields, auras, chakras, etc.

We could argue whether or not these methods are real, but let's suppose they are...and I think that we on GLP would like to believe they are...

What does that tell us in a "bigger picture" kind of way, that these sorts of Holistic practices can be done through a surrogate/stand-in/remotely?
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It's movement of energy, and the intent behind it.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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Nobody cares so I'll spoil it for you:

1. If you can truly heal someone remotely or through a surrogate, it would suggest that all healing is energy directed by intention.

2. What if one enlightened person agreed to heal the entire world, could that action, if accepted, heal and cleanse a person of energetic "wrong"?

3. If that enlightened being received his insight through "Christ Consciousness" and told us to seek the same through the "Air" or Heart Chakra... would we not thusly find and accept that healing/cleansing power *and* the gift of being our surrogate that man chose to be for us?

In short, healing through surrogate when working in a body's energy fields is not only possible, it was already performed for you. You just never truly accepted or believed that it could be done and be so simple.

You find that belief through meditation and when you do, you WILL be transformed via the surrogate Jesus the Christ.

We are learning that we *can* do miracles, and the biggest miracle of all was the gift of our salvation by proxy all in one, and one for all.

Now, do you REALLY want to heal homeopathically and outside of the medical system?

Do you REALLY want to find and accept Christ to receive his very real and tangible gift that maybe now you more clearly understand the mechanism of?

Meditate, fast, enlighten and rise to the "Air" and meet Christ there.

Peace.
 Quoting: The_Meridian


lol......... i like everyone else on this forum responded before reading further.
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Imagine for a minute that you broke your arm, an obvious break, but you refused to acknowledge it besides limiting moving your arm for a few weeks and dealing with the pain.

Would your arm heal properly? No of course not. You'd have ongoing issues probably for the rest of your life (and maybe into the next?...)

The same dynamic applies to every possible kind of wound: physical emotional spiritual; however you want to define it.

"Acknowledging" something is tricky business sometimes, and we often are too busy or distracted to properly and fully "acknowledge" things that are happening to us or around us. Mostly we've never been taught how to acknowledge and we don't know it's importance.

Acknowledging a wound or injury fully and completely is often all that is needed to make a lingering wound or ongoing healing issues completely disappear, because proper acknowledgment is the only thing that still hasn't been done in most cases.

Think of it this way: acknowledgment is the complete absence of denial in the face of utter acceptance of truth. If you aren't in a state of acknowledgment, you aren't fully connected to your body's abilities (to heal, etc.)

If you can give or show others the power of acknowledgment, you can be a great healer.
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actually, that kinda did happen to me lol. Broke my shoulder, well, my HORSE broke my shoulder when he ran me down. The ball in the socket was chipped/broke...forget proper terminology. By the time it was diagnosed, it was already healing on its own.

I wore a sling for a couple weeks. Shoulder is fine.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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you will no doubt find this interesting.

this woman has uncovered her own gift for other aspects of what you have labelled "surrogate healing"...specifically "remote healing"

one of the cool parts is that she has been dedicated to understanding the science behind it.

it's 48 min or so.....well worth the time, she is a genius and very articulate:






and then there is this more well known story of Dr. Hew Len who healed an entire wing of criminally insane violent offenders in a Hawaiian prison. He never met any of the patients, rather he just read their files and worked on himself using Hoʻoponopono.


loads of links to his story...here is just one i found quickly:

[link to hooponoponomiracle.com (secure)]

snip


Maybe you’ve already heard about the story of a therapist in Hawaii who somehow healed an entire ward of mentally ill criminals without seeing any of them.
It’s definitely the most famous story about Ho’oponopono, and it’s a pretty amazing, miraculous, and inspiring story too.
Well, that Hawaiian therapist was Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len.

When Joe Vitale heard about this story, he contacted Dr Hew Len, because he was really inspired about it and wanted to know.
Eventually, this lead to the book “Zero Limits” which they wrote together.




then there is all the work of bert hellnger and his students called, among other things, "Family Constellation Therapy"....another modality of surrogate healing that deals directly with quantum entanglements in collective energy fields.

Hellinger never waited for there to be proof of such things, he just started practicing his craft with remarkable results.

here is the wiki link on him:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]



good topic...important one to consider

cheers
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What does that tell us in a "bigger picture" kind of way, that these sorts of Holistic practices can be done through a surrogate/stand-in/remotely?
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one thing it suggests is that electric universe/plasma cosmology is truly worth looking into and that our base 5 senses are woefully in-equipped tools to define the reality we inhabit.
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Re: Thinking Person's Thread: Surrogate Healing???
you will no doubt find this interesting.

this woman has uncovered her own gift for other aspects of what you have labelled "surrogate healing"...specifically "remote healing"

one of the cool parts is that she has been dedicated to understanding the science behind it.

it's 48 min or so.....well worth the time, she is a genius and very articulate:






and then there is this more well known story of Dr. Hew Len who healed an entire wing of criminally insane violent offenders in a Hawaiian prison. He never met any of the patients, rather he just read their files and worked on himself using Hoʻoponopono.


loads of links to his story...here is just one i found quickly:

[link to hooponoponomiracle.com (secure)]

snip


Maybe you’ve already heard about the story of a therapist in Hawaii who somehow healed an entire ward of mentally ill criminals without seeing any of them.
It’s definitely the most famous story about Ho’oponopono, and it’s a pretty amazing, miraculous, and inspiring story too.
Well, that Hawaiian therapist was Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len.

When Joe Vitale heard about this story, he contacted Dr Hew Len, because he was really inspired about it and wanted to know.
Eventually, this lead to the book “Zero Limits” which they wrote together.




then there is all the work of bert hellnger and his students called, among other things, "Family Constellation Therapy"....another modality of surrogate healing that deals directly with quantum entanglements in collective energy fields.

Hellinger never waited for there to be proof of such things, he just started practicing his craft with remarkable results.

here is the wiki link on him:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]



good topic...important one to consider

cheers
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yes, she's good. I have listened to her, and bought her tuning forks.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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Re: Thinking Person's Thread: Surrogate Healing???
Imagine for a minute that you broke your arm, an obvious break, but you refused to acknowledge it besides limiting moving your arm for a few weeks and dealing with the pain.

Would your arm heal properly? No of course not. You'd have ongoing issues probably for the rest of your life (and maybe into the next?...)

The same dynamic applies to every possible kind of wound: physical emotional spiritual; however you want to define it.

"Acknowledging" something is tricky business sometimes, and we often are too busy or distracted to properly and fully "acknowledge" things that are happening to us or around us. Mostly we've never been taught how to acknowledge and we don't know it's importance.

Acknowledging a wound or injury fully and completely is often all that is needed to make a lingering wound or ongoing healing issues completely disappear, because proper acknowledgment is the only thing that still hasn't been done in most cases.

Think of it this way: acknowledgment is the complete absence of denial in the face of utter acceptance of truth. If you aren't in a state of acknowledgment, you aren't fully connected to your body's abilities (to heal, etc.)

If you can give or show others the power of acknowledgment, you can be a great healer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86182144


actually, that kinda did happen to me lol. Broke my shoulder, well, my HORSE broke my shoulder when he ran me down. The ball in the socket was chipped/broke...forget proper terminology. By the time it was diagnosed, it was already healing on its own.

I wore a sling for a couple weeks. Shoulder is fine.
 Quoting: Pyaar


Acknowledgment is tricky business, and I mean no offense, but your horse did not break your shoulder. You did.

It is not about blame, but about truth. It is possible to cause things to happen without conscious knowledge of it.

For example: there's a man who's house sits beside the bank of a creek. Ants are a problem there, and they erupt huge anthills out of the ground all along the creek bank. Some are a yard in diameter. The man has (after years of experimenting) found a mixture of chemicals to pour on the anthills to reliably exterminate them. What he doesn't know, is that the chemicals leaching into the creek have killed all the fish, and he wonders why he doesn't catch anything there any more. The ants didn't kill the fish, although they caused the man to want to find a way to eradicate ants. The man killed the fish.

The phrase is not "seek the truth and the truth shall blame you and hold you accountable",

The phrase is: " seek the truth and the truth shall set you free"
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Re: Thinking Person's Thread: Surrogate Healing???
Imagine for a minute that you broke your arm, an obvious break, but you refused to acknowledge it besides limiting moving your arm for a few weeks and dealing with the pain.

Would your arm heal properly? No of course not. You'd have ongoing issues probably for the rest of your life (and maybe into the next?...)

The same dynamic applies to every possible kind of wound: physical emotional spiritual; however you want to define it.

"Acknowledging" something is tricky business sometimes, and we often are too busy or distracted to properly and fully "acknowledge" things that are happening to us or around us. Mostly we've never been taught how to acknowledge and we don't know it's importance.

Acknowledging a wound or injury fully and completely is often all that is needed to make a lingering wound or ongoing healing issues completely disappear, because proper acknowledgment is the only thing that still hasn't been done in most cases.

Think of it this way: acknowledgment is the complete absence of denial in the face of utter acceptance of truth. If you aren't in a state of acknowledgment, you aren't fully connected to your body's abilities (to heal, etc.)

If you can give or show others the power of acknowledgment, you can be a great healer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86182144


actually, that kinda did happen to me lol. Broke my shoulder, well, my HORSE broke my shoulder when he ran me down. The ball in the socket was chipped/broke...forget proper terminology. By the time it was diagnosed, it was already healing on its own.

I wore a sling for a couple weeks. Shoulder is fine.
 Quoting: Pyaar


Acknowledgment is tricky business, and I mean no offense, but your horse did not break your shoulder. You did.

It is not about blame, but about truth. It is possible to cause things to happen without conscious knowledge of it.

For example: there's a man who's house sits beside the bank of a creek. Ants are a problem there, and they erupt huge anthills out of the ground all along the creek bank. Some are a yard in diameter. The man has (after years of experimenting) found a mixture of chemicals to pour on the anthills to reliably exterminate them. What he doesn't know, is that the chemicals leaching into the creek have killed all the fish, and he wonders why he doesn't catch anything there any more. The ants didn't kill the fish, although they caused the man to want to find a way to eradicate ants. The man killed the fish.

The phrase is not "seek the truth and the truth shall blame you and hold you accountable",

The phrase is: " seek the truth and the truth shall set you free"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86182144


Of course. And this is the same message I've been sharing for quite some time. Particularly on the topic of dogs, specficially pit bulls who are the current target of human's stupidity.

Humans are *supposed* to be smarter than animals, but most often are not, and it's the animals who reap the benefits of stupidity.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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I can't help others when I'm still under my ex's boot.

I can heal myself fairly well, but how to free myself from those who still expect PAYMENT for direct betrayal?

The J'judge, the J'attorney?
The hospitals that were threatened by the Sheriff to not report the attempted murder..

I refuse bankruptcy as an escape from the actions of others.

These people just want me to die so I can't help others.
Been fighting now seven or eight years to recover.

The Creator did well to heal my wounds, but the oppressors still demand payment.

Can another person "heal" the demands of my oppressors?

I haven't been able to yet.
Nothing shall be so certain as to permit confusion.





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