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Dr. Chester Southam - injected live cancer cells into unconsenting patients

 
beeches  (OP)

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03/23/2021 09:41 PM

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Re: Dr. Chester Southam - injected live cancer cells into unconsenting patients
consent forms are a necessary formality before lots of things...

most nurses don't enjoy getting them signed.

you always wonder if they really understood.


one of my favorite nurse friends always said

"The risk of any procedure is bleeding, infection, and death. Sign here!"

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03/23/2021 09:45 PM

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Re: Dr. Chester Southam - injected live cancer cells into unconsenting patients
His role in injecting live cancer cells in multiple patients many times over his research career

led to the idea of formal informed consent.


an article from a few years back:

[link to nypost.com (secure)]


The front-page headline of the New York World-Telegram on Jan. 20, 1964 shocked readers: “Charge Hospital Shot Live Cancer Cells Into Patients.”

The stunning accusation was that Brooklyn’s get lost Chronic Disease Hospital, a facility known for serving an elderly population and those in need of long-term physical care, was “conducting cancer experiments on unsuspecting non-cancerous patients.”


again, that is not really the name. It won't print here.
 Quoting: beeches


Every human being has an inalienable right to determine what shall be done with his own body.

Oh no.... not if there is a virus going around! You must be forced to take an experimental and unproven vaccine! Daddy Government says so!
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03/23/2021 10:05 PM

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Re: Dr. Chester Southam - injected live cancer cells into unconsenting patients
His role in injecting live cancer cells in multiple patients many times over his research career

led to the idea of formal informed consent.


an article from a few years back:

[link to nypost.com (secure)]


The front-page headline of the New York World-Telegram on Jan. 20, 1964 shocked readers: “Charge Hospital Shot Live Cancer Cells Into Patients.”

The stunning accusation was that Brooklyn’s get lost Chronic Disease Hospital, a facility known for serving an elderly population and those in need of long-term physical care, was “conducting cancer experiments on unsuspecting non-cancerous patients.”


again, that is not really the name. It won't print here.
 Quoting: beeches


Do you happen to know what the results of injecting cancer cells into cancer patients were?

I seem to remember that if a person already had cancer that such injections would cause the patient's cancer to proliferate and grow.
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03/23/2021 10:39 PM
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Re: Dr. Chester Southam - injected live cancer cells into unconsenting patients
Good post!
beeches  (OP)

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03/24/2021 06:05 AM

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Re: Dr. Chester Southam - injected live cancer cells into unconsenting patients
His role in injecting live cancer cells in multiple patients many times over his research career

led to the idea of formal informed consent.


an article from a few years back:

[link to nypost.com (secure)]


The front-page headline of the New York World-Telegram on Jan. 20, 1964 shocked readers: “Charge Hospital Shot Live Cancer Cells Into Patients.”

The stunning accusation was that Brooklyn’s get lost Chronic Disease Hospital, a facility known for serving an elderly population and those in need of long-term physical care, was “conducting cancer experiments on unsuspecting non-cancerous patients.”


again, that is not really the name. It won't print here.
 Quoting: beeches


Do you happen to know what the results of injecting cancer cells into cancer patients were?

I seem to remember that if a person already had cancer that such injections would cause the patient's cancer to proliferate and grow.
 Quoting: Ballsy


no, I don't know.... the people in this hospital were probably almost all elderly, and the elderly have the most cases of cancer
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beeches  (OP)

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03/24/2021 06:11 AM

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Re: Dr. Chester Southam - injected live cancer cells into unconsenting patients
I assume the a relevance of your thread is the declared, established right to informed consent, being able to withhold consent and deny any injection.

[link to hnewswire.com (secure)]
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from your link:

The emergency law gives authorities sweeping powers to tackle the COVID-19 pandemic and will remain in force until March 2021.

Citizens who refuse to be tested for the coronavirus will face fines and potential prison time and will be prevented from entering shops, grocery stores, public institutions, and hospitals while also being restricted from using public transport.


I wonder if it was extended - due to expire in days.
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Theobromine The Deplorable

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Re: Dr. Chester Southam - injected live cancer cells into unconsenting patients
That's worse than the fertility doc who injected his own sperm into a bunch of women. Um. I dunno. Maybe not worse.
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Pretty worse, I think.

bf11a
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well Barney, stop and think, if you happened to get betrothed to a sweetie that turned out to be your half-sister by this clown, that would be pretty bad too!
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beeches, you're creepin me out...

bf509
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Dr Shettles I believe was his name ... artificially inseminated women in his fertility clinic and creates 1500 of his own offspring while the women were told it was donor sperm from the local medical school or something

1970’s caught
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