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A little backstory...

Around the age of 16 I had the ability to lucid dream. I don't know all the technical words so I'll just explain it in simple terms. I could think of a subject/place/person, etc before going to sleep & then while asleep with 100% accuracy literally every single time I could tell you where a person was, what they were wearing, what they were doing, what they were going to do etc. I got a little cocky with this talent & started abusing it for personal gain. Long story short, the law got involved & I lost the ability seemingly overnight.

So here's my question: Can I regain this skill or did I f*ck that all up karma-wise? Previously I had the ability without aids such as background noises or whatever people use nowadays to enter that state of mind. I've sworn I'll never abuse that talent again (and I believe talents like this come from God) but I kinda feel like I had my chance & I abused it so He took it from me.

I'd like to hear what the experts in this field have to say about my query. Can I get it back? If so, how?
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We develop neurologically for dreaming, your brain does produce neural pathways and neurons to facilitate the dream experience. If we slack our ability to dream goes into atrophy so we lose perception, memory and awareness as a result.

It's a skill that needs constant stimulation and participation to keep active or it goes the way of the dodo bird. You can get it back, it just takes knowing how to train the brain so it's stimulated out of atrophy just like learning to read, or play the piano.

Here's a training system that addresses active dream development and explains all the science of how we develop neurologically for our dream experiences with ample fMRI research backed by training those deficient regions including awareness.

[link to dreamingforgamers.com (secure)]
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I can give you the last one I ever had if that helps...

Me & my cousins were planning on robbing a convenience store. We needed to know where the safe was located & the code. This was child's-play for me. I did my thing, found out where it was located & the code but I saw something else unexpected in my dream. The side glass door had been busted out BUT it was obvious it had been broken by someone from the inside trying to get out (or so it appeared). We made a plan & had a "go-date/time" set. Well guess what the f*ck happened? THE EMPLOYEES of the store fricking robbed the place the night before we were planning on it!!! Oh it gets better... One of the employees tried blaming US (we were friends/acquaintances with the female employee). So, detectives being detectives picked each of us up, interviewed us & let us go eventually because we were technically innocent. How the employees got caught is they were STUPID enough to forge store checks. That was not part of our plan obviously. So maybe it's a blessing I lost it since it's obvious I was starting to use it for bad.
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We develop neurologically for dreaming, your brain does produce neural pathways and neurons to facilitate the dream experience. If we slack our ability to dream goes into atrophy so we lose perception, memory and awareness as a result.

It's a skill that needs constant stimulation and participation to keep active or it goes the way of the dodo bird. You can get it back, it just takes knowing how to train the brain so it's stimulated out of atrophy just like learning to read, or play the piano.

Here's a training system that addresses active dream development and explains all the science of how we develop neurologically for our dream experiences with ample fMRI research backed by training those deficient regions including awareness.

[link to dreamingforgamers.com (secure)]
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Thank you for this! It's certainly worth a try right! And that's kinda what I was thinking (hoping really). That it's a skill that can be re-learned.
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hf TY for the pin btw!
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I can give you the last one I ever had if that helps...

Me & my cousins were planning on robbing a convenience store. We needed to know where the safe was located & the code. This was child's-play for me. I did my thing, found out where it was located & the code but I saw something else unexpected in my dream. The side glass door had been busted out BUT it was obvious it had been broken by someone from the inside trying to get out (or so it appeared). We made a plan & had a "go-date/time" set. Well guess what the f*ck happened? THE EMPLOYEES of the store fricking robbed the place the night before we were planning on it!!! Oh it gets better... One of the employees tried blaming US (we were friends/acquaintances with the female employee). So, detectives being detectives picked each of us up, interviewed us & let us go eventually because we were technically innocent. How the employees got caught is they were STUPID enough to forge store checks. That was not part of our plan obviously. So maybe it's a blessing I lost it since it's obvious I was starting to use it for bad.
 Quoting: President of TABTX


Well, I'll give you a breakdown of how and why we dream so this can help you see it's always a process we all do when we sleep and what lacks is our stunted dream development that inhibits nightly dream adventures.

1.) Every human produces 3-5 dreams each night, some birds dream and every mammal dreams. (Dogs, cats, horses et al ).
2.) Dreaming starts with the hippocampus our long term memory region of the brain that starts to send out memories from our waking life back into the brain for Dream Replay. This replay is part of our long-term memory consilidation and cognitive deveopment.
3.) As we age, the vast majority of people lose the ability to dream due to stunted dream development. By the age of 60 most people will lose their ability to recall a single dream by 99.98%. This is cognitive decline in the dreaming process and is linked to not having stimulation of the neurological regions of the dreaming mind so that the neural pathways remain active and stimulated so they go into atrophy.

How to know if your dreaming mind is in atrophy?

1.) Dream Recal frequency
If you remember 1 dream a week, month, year or decade that is a clear sign that the neural pathways in the medial prefrontal cortext have gone into atrophy. fMRI research on dreaming shows active dreamers with high-dream recall frequency have far more neural pathway density in the MPC.

2.) 5-Sensory Perception
The Primary somatosensory cortex stores sensory memories in the brain and dream-replay should be all 5 senses, not just visual, or visual/audible. You should have all 5 senses taste/touch/smell/vision/hearing as part of dream-replay. If any of these senses are lacking then yes... stunted dream development or lesions in the brain in the PSC due to brain injury or disease as evident in brain injury studies on dreaming showing damage to sensory regions not only affect our waking perception but our dreams because the sensory information needed to be processed in dream-replay is damaged so that sense is loss. If there is no damage or disease in that region, it's stunted dream development and atrophy just like memory.

3.) Self-Awareness (lucidity).
The prefrontal cortex is where we have self-awareness and like the above two neurological regions for memory and sensory-replay, self-awareness emerges in our dream experience when the prefrontal cortex is active. And like all the studies on the dreaming mind, lucid dreamers or self-aware dreamers have more neural-pathway density in all the areas of the dreaming mind including the prefrontal cortex.

Dreaming should be an active, not passive skill if you want to get these regions of the brain stimulating those neural pathways ie... getting them to be used regularly so they don't atrophy.

The other nice thing with active dreaming is you can influence and program the types of dreams you want to have, and even change the dream-theme in run-time during a self-aware dream simply by focusing on other memories and experiences, and that makes dreaming fun.

There's a lot more including dream psychology but you have to start with the atrophic stunted dream development while you work on the psychological house-cleaning that also gets in the way.
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We develop neurologically for dreaming, your brain does produce neural pathways and neurons to facilitate the dream experience. If we slack our ability to dream goes into atrophy so we lose perception, memory and awareness as a result.

It's a skill that needs constant stimulation and participation to keep active or it goes the way of the dodo bird. You can get it back, it just takes knowing how to train the brain so it's stimulated out of atrophy just like learning to read, or play the piano.

Here's a training system that addresses active dream development and explains all the science of how we develop neurologically for our dream experiences with ample fMRI research backed by training those deficient regions including awareness.

[link to dreamingforgamers.com (secure)]
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Thank you for this! It's certainly worth a try right! And that's kinda what I was thinking (hoping really). That it's a skill that can be re-learned.
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Yeah, that is a dream training system designed to target the 3 neurological regions of dream development through simulation training. It's like a gym for the mind because it covers how to stimulate the regions of the brain for all the memory, peception and awareness. Very effective and fast, some amazing recoveries for long-time dreamers who didn't realize they had so much stunted development in all those regions until they got to bring them back online and enjoy the fullness of what dreaming can offer.
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I only have nightmares, I wish I could turn dreaming off.
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I only have nightmares, I wish I could turn dreaming off.
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I've helped several people with nightmares, this is often a problem that develops over time due to the way our mind embeds negative patterns. A nightmare is usually linked to childhood or trauma and can also come from influences in our waking life that cause fear.

The reason why you are having nightmares is that certain fears have embedded and your subconscious mind is actually trying to get you to resolve and release the negative-pattern so they don't embed further.

Once you start to understand how thoughts replay in dreams from waking life influences you can start to chip away at those past-patterns replacing them with more positive dream experiences.

This is the part of dreaming I call house-cleaning or the wildness of the subconscious mind. If I can help a person with chronic night-terrors at the age of 30 no longer have them (the worse kind of nightmare as it activates the primus the nerve cluster in the cerebellum that causes fear paralysis).

The other reason to treat nightmares is often not understood by most and that is the nature of how dreams connect to the limbic system causing a hormone response ie the fight-or-flight mechanism is tripped so the mind releases cortisol and adrenaline during a nightmare causing the body to start to have elevated heart-rate, constricted blood-vessels, heavy breathing, sweating and the problem with this is it's impact on your mind/body.

Repeat fight-or-flight fear responses enlarge the amygadala (the part of the brain that starts the fight-and-flight response) it shrinks the hippocampus and stunts development in the prefrontal cortex leading the anxiety, stress, depression and in more extreme cases fears that are embedded can become phobias and in the more extreme develop into psychosis in some.

You don't want your body going through the constant fight-or-flight response during sleep when there is no threat because it's preparing itself for this action when there is no reason too.

Instead you want to have positive dreams so your limbic system is releasing the beneficial hormones of Endorphines, Seritonin, oxytocin and Dopamine. I call those sweet dreams because if you study positive dreaming on the dreaming mind you'll see it can enlarge the hippocampus and help with prefrontal cortex development instead of stunting it like cortisol does.

Lot's of benefits in healthy dreaming practices most are clueless about or misinformed. The science is starting to catch on but it's been so painfully slow.
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hmmmm....


If you could do this - did it ever occur to you to help find missing people? Child Traffickers? and such?
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For some reason i constantly
had sleep paralisis.. but leaving
that aside, i also can decide
to wake up in dreams...

i dont control thems at all
but if in a dream i decide to
wake up for some reason i do it for real..

the most crazy i had , it was when granma died... the things i did in there
were like the freaking x men..

first i dream i was cooking ON HER kitchen.. i never ever cook on her kitchen not even dish wash i live in another house..

then several people from a limo came down
and try to kidnap me but.. i RE do reality so manh times that i keep appearing on the kitchen.. they had to say please.. so i agree, while inside the limo a guy with a grey smoking told exactly this phrase
"Death smell you, but was unable to find you" so his great plan was no other than buried me alive... i kind of feel it was cause for some reason i was living more than i originallh should... i had no problem with this since for some reason i feel this was a dream... and as dream i can simply decide to wake up.. when i want to, so the moment i step up of that stupid car i made the move, and i do wake up on my bed,i go to my kitchen, to drink something and when i was about to . i read Sleeping pills, thats weird cause in my house never Ever use sleeping pill neither in my whole life had a bottle on my hand , is the kind of thing i onlh see on tv..
THEN i truly wake up... i think whoever
this people is, they know i can do this waking up shit..

i wonder if that count as LUcId..

i think you lost your ability cause you feel guilty about the incident..
deep down you heart you know you
shouldnt have done that
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I only have nightmares, I wish I could turn dreaming off.
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You don't want your body going through the constant fight-or-flight response during sleep when there is no threat because it's preparing itself for this action when there is no reason too.

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Ok that is creepy.....all my nightmares are the same, just different settings.
All of them start with trying “flight”...then end up having to “fight”.
How did you know???
Actually, don’t answer, I’m freaked out...and sorry OP for hi jacking your thread.
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For some reason i constantly
had sleep paralisis.. but leaving
that aside, i also can decide
to wake up in dreams...
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Sleep paralysis happens everytime we fall asleep. It's perfectly natural and occurs when the mind releases GABA and Glycine which inhibit neural transmitters in our muscles so we don't act out our dreams.

Why you have sleep paralysis is actually because your are self-aware during this natural phase of sleep. It can be bypassed so you don't have to go through the unpleasantness of it (if you are intimidated by it) or you can use it for a platform for self-aware dreaming if the fear is removed once you realize it's always going to happen with sleep as part of our natural sleeping.

If you are in SP and having 'weird experiences' it's because we are already in a self-aware dream state, the body is asleep if you get into this mode but the mind is awake. That is the goal for most self-aware dreamers, the mind-awake/body-asleep focus state.

i dont control thems at all
but if in a dream i decide to
wake up for some reason i do it for real..
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It's easy to control them as dreams are just a form of memeory-replay and thinking. Most are not trained to program their own dream content is the only reason why we lack control. The skill to paint/draw our dreams is not developed. I can dream anything I want because I trained myself how to actively dream and produce my own dreamc content.


the most crazy i had , it was when granma died... the things i did in there
were like the freaking x men..

first i dream i was cooking ON HER kitchen.. i never ever cook on her kitchen not even dish wash i live in another house..

then several people from a limo came down
and try to kidnap me but.. i RE do reality so manh times that i keep appearing on the kitchen.. they had to say please.. so i agree, while inside the limo a guy with a grey smoking told exactly this phrase
"Death smell you, but was unable to find you" so his great plan was no other than buried me alive... i kind of feel it was cause for some reason i was living more than i originallh should... i had no problem with this since for some reason i feel this was a dream... and as dream i can simply decide to wake up.. when i want to, so the moment i step up of that stupid car i made the move, and i do wake up on my bed,i go to my kitchen, to drink something and when i was about to . i read Sleeping pills, thats weird cause in my house never Ever use sleeping pill neither in my whole life had a bottle on my hand , is the kind of thing i onlh see on tv..
THEN i truly wake up... i think whoever
this people is, they know i can do this waking up shit..

i wonder if that count as LUcId..

i think you lost your ability cause you feel guilty about the incident..
deep down you heart you know you
shouldnt have done that
 Quoting: MRF


There is a self-edifying and moral-edifying quality in dreams because we can have these 'what-if' simulations that can make you feel like you should have done that, but that is really a good thing because having the safe-space of a dream to work out bad choices is superior than making those bad-choices in waking life where the consequences are real.

Coming out of a morally questionable dream experience and realizing you'd never do that here is very positive, you learned from a negative experience and realized it's not for you.

That's the moral-edifying quality of dreaming. The self-edifying quality... well that's matrix level beyond reality epiphanies that only dreams can offer. Far too deep for most to even grasp until they have the exeprience.
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I can give you the last one I ever had if that helps...

Me & my cousins were planning on robbing a convenience store. We needed to know where the safe was located & the code. This was child's-play for me. I did my thing, found out where it was located & the code but I saw something else unexpected in my dream. The side glass door had been busted out BUT it was obvious it had been broken by someone from the inside trying to get out (or so it appeared). We made a plan & had a "go-date/time" set. Well guess what the f*ck happened? THE EMPLOYEES of the store fricking robbed the place the night before we were planning on it!!! Oh it gets better... One of the employees tried blaming US (we were friends/acquaintances with the female employee). So, detectives being detectives picked each of us up, interviewed us & let us go eventually because we were technically innocent. How the employees got caught is they were STUPID enough to forge store checks. That was not part of our plan obviously. So maybe it's a blessing I lost it since it's obvious I was starting to use it for bad.
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Well, I'll give you a breakdown of how and why we dream so this can help you see it's always a process we all do when we sleep and what lacks is our stunted dream development that inhibits nightly dream adventures.

1.) Every human produces 3-5 dreams each night, some birds dream and every mammal dreams. (Dogs, cats, horses et al ).
2.) Dreaming starts with the hippocampus our long term memory region of the brain that starts to send out memories from our waking life back into the brain for Dream Replay. This replay is part of our long-term memory consilidation and cognitive deveopment.
3.) As we age, the vast majority of people lose the ability to dream due to stunted dream development. By the age of 60 most people will lose their ability to recall a single dream by 99.98%. This is cognitive decline in the dreaming process and is linked to not having stimulation of the neurological regions of the dreaming mind so that the neural pathways remain active and stimulated so they go into atrophy.

How to know if your dreaming mind is in atrophy?

1.) Dream Recal frequency
If you remember 1 dream a week, month, year or decade that is a clear sign that the neural pathways in the medial prefrontal cortext have gone into atrophy. fMRI research on dreaming shows active dreamers with high-dream recall frequency have far more neural pathway density in the MPC.

2.) 5-Sensory Perception
The Primary somatosensory cortex stores sensory memories in the brain and dream-replay should be all 5 senses, not just visual, or visual/audible. You should have all 5 senses taste/touch/smell/vision/hearing as part of dream-replay. If any of these senses are lacking then yes... stunted dream development or lesions in the brain in the PSC due to brain injury or disease as evident in brain injury studies on dreaming showing damage to sensory regions not only affect our waking perception but our dreams because the sensory information needed to be processed in dream-replay is damaged so that sense is loss. If there is no damage or disease in that region, it's stunted dream development and atrophy just like memory.

3.) Self-Awareness (lucidity).
The prefrontal cortex is where we have self-awareness and like the above two neurological regions for memory and sensory-replay, self-awareness emerges in our dream experience when the prefrontal cortex is active. And like all the studies on the dreaming mind, lucid dreamers or self-aware dreamers have more neural-pathway density in all the areas of the dreaming mind including the prefrontal cortex.

Dreaming should be an active, not passive skill if you want to get these regions of the brain stimulating those neural pathways ie... getting them to be used regularly so they don't atrophy.

The other nice thing with active dreaming is you can influence and program the types of dreams you want to have, and even change the dream-theme in run-time during a self-aware dream simply by focusing on other memories and experiences, and that makes dreaming fun.

There's a lot more including dream psychology but you have to start with the atrophic stunted dream development while you work on the psychological house-cleaning that also gets in the way.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


So step 1 is regain the ability to recall dreams, whether lucid or not. I've heard keeping a journal next to the bed & writing down as much as possible after waking helps in recalling dreams so I'll start by trying that.
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Also when i was younger..
i had like 30 differents dreams scenarios
in with a gust of wind insanely strong
suddenly push me back , hard enough
to make me fly of the ground.. hurricane
kind of wind,.. very strange
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hmmmm....


If you could do this - did it ever occur to you to help find missing people? Child Traffickers? and such?
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At the time I had the ability no, the thought never crossed my mind. I had more devious thoughts on the mind. I was still a kid basically. But you can bet I absolutely would now if I can regain it!
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I only have nightmares, I wish I could turn dreaming off.
 Quoting: A Deplorable Neanderthal



You don't want your body going through the constant fight-or-flight response during sleep when there is no threat because it's preparing itself for this action when there is no reason too.

 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Ok that is creepy.....all my nightmares are the same, just different settings.
All of them start with trying “flight”...then end up having to “fight”.
How did you know???
Actually, don’t answer, I’m freaked out...and sorry OP for hi jacking your thread.
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I know because I have studied dreaming since 1987 and focus on the neurological development and psychological development of the dream experience.

The science of dreaming and dream psychology shows we go through this fight-or-flight response with nightmares and you are simply in that statistical area of your own dream experiences.

The thread asked for an expert so here I am. And yes I can help you resolve nightmares for the remainder of your dream experiences so they go the way of the dodo bird as they should.

Dreaming should be a nighttime adventure and vacation destination, not a psychological torture chamber. I haven't had a nightmare in over 34 years now since I first learned to actually dream properly, but that is because I chose to learn how and participate in my own dream experiences.
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I only have nightmares, I wish I could turn dreaming off.
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You don't want your body going through the constant fight-or-flight response during sleep when there is no threat because it's preparing itself for this action when there is no reason too.

 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Ok that is creepy.....all my nightmares are the same, just different settings.
All of them start with trying “flight”...then end up having to “fight”.
How did you know???
Actually, don’t answer, I’m freaked out...and sorry OP for hi jacking your thread.
 Quoting: A Deplorable Neanderthal


No worries, don't apologize. If this thread can help anyone for any reason I'm all for it.
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So step 1 is regain the ability to recall dreams, whether lucid or not. I've heard keeping a journal next to the bed & writing down as much as possible after waking helps in recalling dreams so I'll start by trying that.
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Yes. Memory is the first area everyone must start at because all the other areas are meaningless if you have amnesiac dream sleep. Sleep induced amnesia is normal for must stunted dreamers. Hobbson covers amnesiac sleep with his research but I deduced it from the EEG/PET studies before fMRI well over 22 years ago.

Dreaming is developmental so you don't sit down and try to play the most complex sheet music on a piano without ever playing the piano properly. It's a skill, so it develops as we learn so no short-cuts or instant gratification despite the lies of many who claim this is easy in seconds, or 1-2-3 easy steps because they don't address the neurological development that comes with repeat practice and although they may do it really easy now, they don't realize the brain wired itself over time ot make it easy like any skill we learn becomes more automatic and natural.

Making it developmental ie building up a training system that starts off easy and becomes more advanced over time is ideal. Once you get into a good routine and practice all regions can develop simultaneously until you peak so recovery is quick but the fitness and control is constant maintenance. You'll always fight atrophy in the dreaming mind just like if we stop going to the gym and all those gains can be lost if there is no more stimulation.

The other area is the psychological side of dreaming which presents all the nightmares/fears and psychological inhibitors and blocks we built overtime that need to be reconciled and resovled. That's what most people get trapped in is the negative thinking not realizing that is influencing their dreams.
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at one point i also use my "waking
up from dream" shit for gain..

i m a figurine collector, very expensive ones, so i literally dream i grab one..
trow it out of my window THEN i really do wake up.. of course out of curiosity i check the other side of my window, but sadly it seem dream items cant cross over to the real world
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So as an engineer with an unsolvable problem, that works itself out the next day or after a sleep. Is it in a subconscious memory location, that comes to conscious thought. With a solution?

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The supplement ZMA has crazy affects on sleep, lucid part was insane for me.
Genesis-Acts,Hebrews-Revelation to, you know who
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at one point i also use my "waking
up from dream" shit for gain..

i m a figurine collector, very expensive ones, so i literally dream i grab one..
trow it out of my window THEN i really do wake up.. of course out of curiosity i check the other side of my window, but sadly it seem dream items cant cross over to the real world
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Dreams although appearing very real many are just a composition of thoughts, intents, memories in replay. When I was first starting out I too would grab things I wanted from my dreams as a kid wanting to wake up with it but alas... despite how real it was in the dream != reality.
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So step 1 is regain the ability to recall dreams, whether lucid or not. I've heard keeping a journal next to the bed & writing down as much as possible after waking helps in recalling dreams so I'll start by trying that.
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Yes. Memory is the first area everyone must start at because all the other areas are meaningless if you have amnesiac dream sleep. Sleep induced amnesia is normal for must stunted dreamers. Hobbson covers amnesiac sleep with his research but I deduced it from the EEG/PET studies before fMRI well over 22 years ago.

Dreaming is developmental so you don't sit down and try to play the most complex sheet music on a piano without ever playing the piano properly. It's a skill, so it develops as we learn so no short-cuts or instant gratification despite the lies of many who claim this is easy in seconds, or 1-2-3 easy steps because they don't address the neurological development that comes with repeat practice and although they may do it really easy now, they don't realize the brain wired itself over time ot make it easy like any skill we learn becomes more automatic and natural.

Making it developmental ie building up a training system that starts off easy and becomes more advanced over time is ideal. Once you get into a good routine and practice all regions can develop simultaneously until you peak so recovery is quick but the fitness and control is constant maintenance. You'll always fight atrophy in the dreaming mind just like if we stop going to the gym and all those gains can be lost if there is no more stimulation.

The other area is the psychological side of dreaming which presents all the nightmares/fears and psychological inhibitors and blocks we built overtime that need to be reconciled and resovled. That's what most people get trapped in is the negative thinking not realizing that is influencing their dreams.
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Awesome thank you so much for your help on this subject. I added you as a friend so I'll keep you updated on my progress if that's alright. Once I get stage 1 down, dream recollection, I'm hoping you can help transition me to stage 2.
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For some reason i constantly
had sleep paralisis.. but leaving
that aside, i also can decide
to wake up in dreams...
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Sleep paralysis happens everytime we fall asleep. It's perfectly natural and occurs when the mind releases GABA and Glycine which inhibit neural transmitters in our muscles so we don't act out our dreams.

Why you have sleep paralysis is actually because your are self-aware during this natural phase of sleep. It can be bypassed so you don't have to go through the unpleasantness of it (if you are intimidated by it) or you can use it for a platform for self-aware dreaming if the fear is removed once you realize it's always going to happen with sleep as part of our natural sleeping.

If you are in SP and having 'weird experiences' it's because we are already in a self-aware dream state, the body is asleep if you get into this mode but the mind is awake. That is the goal for most self-aware dreamers, the mind-awake/body-asleep focus state.

i dont control thems at all
but if in a dream i decide to
wake up for some reason i do it for real..
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It's easy to control them as dreams are just a form of memeory-replay and thinking. Most are not trained to program their own dream content is the only reason why we lack control. The skill to paint/draw our dreams is not developed. I can dream anything I want because I trained myself how to actively dream and produce my own dreamc content.


the most crazy i had , it was when granma died... the things i did in there
were like the freaking x men..

first i dream i was cooking ON HER kitchen.. i never ever cook on her kitchen not even dish wash i live in another house..

then several people from a limo came down
and try to kidnap me but.. i RE do reality so manh times that i keep appearing on the kitchen.. they had to say please.. so i agree, while inside the limo a guy with a grey smoking told exactly this phrase
"Death smell you, but was unable to find you" so his great plan was no other than buried me alive... i kind of feel it was cause for some reason i was living more than i originallh should... i had no problem with this since for some reason i feel this was a dream... and as dream i can simply decide to wake up.. when i want to, so the moment i step up of that stupid car i made the move, and i do wake up on my bed,i go to my kitchen, to drink something and when i was about to . i read Sleeping pills, thats weird cause in my house never Ever use sleeping pill neither in my whole life had a bottle on my hand , is the kind of thing i onlh see on tv..
THEN i truly wake up... i think whoever
this people is, they know i can do this waking up shit..

i wonder if that count as LUcId..

i think you lost your ability cause you feel guilty about the incident..
deep down you heart you know you
shouldnt have done that
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There is a self-edifying and moral-edifying quality in dreams because we can have these 'what-if' simulations that can make you feel like you should have done that, but that is really a good thing because having the safe-space of a dream to work out bad choices is superior than making those bad-choices in waking life where the consequences are real.

Coming out of a morally questionable dream experience and realizing you'd never do that here is very positive, you learned from a negative experience and realized it's not for you.

That's the moral-edifying quality of dreaming. The self-edifying quality... well that's matrix level beyond reality epiphanies that only dreams can offer. Far too deep for most to even grasp until they have the exeprience.
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i had so many sleep paralisys is not even a problem for me anymore,...
i discover two ways to broke out of it
1) was able to pull it.off in younger years... it is a move similar.to bruce.lee fast punch.. i calm and i speed up from zero.to 800mph in a sudden move
but i cant do that anymore


2) the head movement , i start to
move my head ( or i least i believe i do it, from side.to side still i broke out of it)

When in Sp I CANT
move
see
hear
feel
talk

is a.space of pure thinking..
in later years i was able to barely
open one eye just a bit..

there are no shadows.. there are no ghost
there is nothing... just me and my tough

i refer to this.. since.most people seems to be able to see or hear shadows/demons
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I only have nightmares, I wish I could turn dreaming off.
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You don't want your body going through the constant fight-or-flight response during sleep when there is no threat because it's preparing itself for this action when there is no reason too.

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Ok that is creepy.....all my nightmares are the same, just different settings.
All of them start with trying “flight”...then end up having to “fight”.
How did you know???
Actually, don’t answer, I’m freaked out...and sorry OP for hi jacking your thread.
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I know because I have studied dreaming since 1987 and focus on the neurological development and psychological development of the dream experience.

The science of dreaming and dream psychology shows we go through this fight-or-flight response with nightmares and you are simply in that statistical area of your own dream experiences.

The thread asked for an expert so here I am. And yes I can help you resolve nightmares for the remainder of your dream experiences so they go the way of the dodo bird as they should.

Dreaming should be a nighttime adventure and vacation destination, not a psychological torture chamber. I haven't had a nightmare in over 34 years now since I first learned to actually dream properly, but that is because I chose to learn how and participate in my own dream experiences.
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It’s now I wish ac posting was allowed.
So many questions .
I’m dwelling over your posts, food for thought!
Thanks for responding.
#DefundTheBBC
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So as an engineer with an unsolvable problem, that works itself out the next day or after a sleep. Is it in a subconscious memory location, that comes to conscious thought. With a solution?
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This part of problem solving in dreams actually has been a big focal point for a lot of dream research spanning decades. It's people like Srinivasa Ramanujan who produced some of the most advanced mathematical theorems for his day all thanks to being able to solve them in his dreams which appeared as scrolls with the theorems (he was in isolation and self-taught but blew away the most advanced mathematicians trained in university). Lot's of other inovcations and discoveries emerged from dreams providing those epiphanies. The Periodic Table of Elements, the Sewing Needle, The Benzine Molecule and so on.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Why? The subconscious mind is constantly working on our logical problems with us during the day and quite often we can subconsciously know a solution to the problem but while awake it doesn't quite make it to the surface and then presents itself in the dream. Chances have you already figured it out but needed a break from the problem so the solution could now present itself elegantly in your dream.
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Socrates said wonder is the beginning of wisdom.
Knowledge is more who than what in reopening the way lol
The komainu knows wisdom

Nice immune system response consequence you’ve got.
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Just wanted to toss this out here in case someone is more familiar with this kind of thing:

Last year I had a powerful dream eerily similar to what happened in Lebanon with the Beirut blast - 2 days before it happened.

First dream I've ever had like that, where there was a massive explosion, or one that was so vivid and seemingly significant, even before the event came to pass.

It could just be a strange coincidence, but I don't personally believe it was.

Any thoughts on how something like that might occur?
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The supplement ZMA has crazy affects on sleep, lucid part was insane for me.
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There are lots of neurochemical stimulants that impact dreaming because they can activate switches in regions of the brain. For example Ketamine is known for it's impact on dreaming and dream recall except Ketamine is also linked to substance-induced nightmares.

Galantamine is another dream stimulant as it treats cognitive decline in memory for Alzheimer's patients. The side-effect is dream recall while using it except.

However, chemically stimulating the brain for dream short-cuts don't really help with a long-term strategy of dream development and can actually be very problematic in the long-term.

For example, melatonin is a sleep aid that also helps promote dreaming, but the sad fact is if we take it as a supplement over time our brain won't produce melatonin naturally creating a supplement dependency that declines with it's investment over time.

The other area that people don't address and I make clear is substance-induced nightmares often can result in using stimulants for dreaming so not recommended. Dream steroids are no different than body-building steroids in my opinion for the short-term gains, long-term consequences so I don't promote them.

Just learning how to dream and getting repeat stimulation of the neural pathways firing naturally without being chemically stimulated to do so actually promotes the development that gives the long-term foundation many natural dreamers enjoy.

The more we practice, the more the brain will adapt neural-pathways to accommodate any skill. Dreams are no different and the evidence is in all the research and in the participants results.
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Awesome thank you so much for your help on this subject. I added you as a friend so I'll keep you updated on my progress if that's alright. Once I get stage 1 down, dream recollection, I'm hoping you can help transition me to stage 2.
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Awesome, I love this topic and think having more scientifically grounded discussions on it is needed as so much groundbreaking research has presented that dreaming can be also beneficial for us.





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