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RAP MUSIC - Immortal Technique

 
Razrin  (OP)

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12/13/2007 11:10 AM
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Somehow, everytime when people come up with Immortal Technique they always come up with this song.

My advice, download his albums !

Its briljant, and contains much better songs then this one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 299916



I agree. I like him, because he`s not trying to sell something in his lyrics.

IE: Cristal, Beemers, Bentley, Porsche, Audi, Acura, Gucci, Burberry, Versace, KFC etc

He`s just reminding me to think for myself.

And he does excellent work reminding me, like most hip hop artists attempt.

Which is why it`s great.

In friendship and love,

-Razrin
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12/13/2007 11:12 AM
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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 96486

Yes! Much more possitive and beautiful. Rap is just a total contradistinction of their previous (great) work.
Razrin  (OP)

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12/13/2007 11:19 AM
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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!

Yes! Much more possitive and beautiful. Rap is just a total contradistinction of their previous (great) work.
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I agree, cool word you used: contradistinction

I never thought of previous works, genres and categories in that regard.

peace

In friendship and love,

-Razrin
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dude in florida

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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!



LOVE Alisha Keyes!
 Quoting: Sireen-reborn


you should probably look at her name and learn how to spell it then.
Sireen-reborn

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12/13/2007 11:22 AM
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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!



LOVE Alisha Keyes!


you should probably look at her name and learn how to spell it then.
 Quoting: dude in florida


You still knew who I was talking about! Isn't that the point? hf
anything after 'but' is bullshit!

[link to www.myspace.com]

"Once you open your mind to the possibility of conspiracy, you then see conspiracy in everything." [link to deadbydecember-sireen.blogspot.com]
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12/13/2007 11:23 AM
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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!



LOVE Alisha Keyes!
 Quoting: Sireen-reborn

She's only half black.
"You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.

“The war we fight today is more than a military conflict,” Mr Bush said. “It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.”


You are a slave..., like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind."
Razrin  (OP)

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12/13/2007 11:25 AM
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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!



LOVE Alisha Keyes!


you should probably look at her name and learn how to spell it then.
 Quoting: dude in florida


Avoid tje grammer cop ruotine dude. You know who Sireen was talking about.

hf

In friendship and love,


-Razrin
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Sireen-reborn

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12/13/2007 11:26 AM
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Hold on....HOLD ON>....here it comes...



ALICIA KEYS!


Is that better?
anything after 'but' is bullshit!

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"Once you open your mind to the possibility of conspiracy, you then see conspiracy in everything." [link to deadbydecember-sireen.blogspot.com]
Razrin  (OP)

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12/13/2007 11:27 AM
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Hey Raz I can't get enough of Tech. Glad to see others here like em too.
 Quoting: UnwanteDreams



Awesome, thank you for the vid, UD.

A machine should not think for men

HAHAHA. This kid is awesome.

:)

-Razrin
Reality is felt through the heart. Human and intellectual retardation rule & govern all.
UnwanteDreams

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12/13/2007 11:33 AM
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Hey Raz I can't get enough of Tech. Glad to see others here like em too.



Awesome, thank you for the vid, UD.

A machine should not think for men

HAHA. Wicked.

:)

-Razrin
 Quoting: Razrin


Glad to share.
"You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.

“The war we fight today is more than a military conflict,” Mr Bush said. “It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.”


You are a slave..., like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind."
dude in florida

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12/13/2007 11:36 AM
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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!



LOVE Alisha Keyes!

She's only half black.
 Quoting: UnwanteDreams


so the fuck what?
UnwanteDreams

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12/13/2007 11:42 AM
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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!



LOVE Alisha Keyes!

She's only half black.


so the fuck what?
 Quoting: dude in florida


STFU I didn't mean anything by it. I was just being a shit head. Angry much?
"You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.

“The war we fight today is more than a military conflict,” Mr Bush said. “It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.”


You are a slave..., like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind."
Anonymous Coward
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12/13/2007 12:35 PM
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Would like to share some of my personal experiences with Immortal Technique...

Before I start I want it known...I am not an expert on Hip Hop...and I will not get drawn into any debate of it. I know what I feel and what my spirit connects to.

I'm in my 50s and both my daughter, her husband and my son are very much into the underground hip hop (this is what I prefer to call the scene) scene here in the Chicago area. I was also the Executive Director of a youth empowerment organization for many years and a good part of our work was to empower young people with the assistance of creative arts...HIP HOP..and the elements of hip hop. I have seen the power that hip hop has when used in a positive manner (not meaning the lyrics but the actions of the people promoting it) and I am very hopeful that the future is in very good hands.

All we ever see in the mainstream is the commercialized hip hop that is promoted for other reasons (FEAR, IGNORANCE, APATHY) than for uplifting people out of their situations, whatever those situations may be. So the general public is vastly unaware of the modern prophets like Immortal Technique (there are others but he seems to be the one that really hits the nail on the head when calling out the politicians, the institutions, etc.).

I met Immortal and have stayed in contact with him over the years. My wife and I received invitations to his shows when he comes through Chi-town. I have seen him live one time and it was a lesson...in lyrical mastery. He is one of a kind...and the fact that he will not accept any deals that will restrict his ideas and the freedom to express them has earned my respect. He's not in it for the money..but to awaken people to what is taking place all around us.

That's my two cents. I was already older when hip hop was first becoming main stream. My musical era was motown and of any of the 60s music that awakened people to their greater potential.

Much peace, blessings and One Heart!
Anonymous Coward
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12/13/2007 12:46 PM
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Rap music sucks now. (Or for the haters out there, it has always been a terrible medium of art & creative expression).
 Quoting: Razrin


Raz, all too true. But there is rap and there is hip hop. Sage Francis, Sole (see the album 'Bottle of Humans' especially), and some others out there are fantastic artists and should not be grouped in with the likes of the names mentioned in this thread.

Just saying is all...
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12/13/2007 12:51 PM
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he´s being pursued by the fbi and the cia......his forthcoming album/dvd will have recordings of the conversations with these departments threatning him...........excellent artist with the balls to have as a chorus"""BUSH KNOCKED DOWN THE TOWERS"
Peruvian cocaine is my favourit song....
hip hop junkie
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12/13/2007 01:15 PM
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Razrin how old are you. you sound like you're in your late thirties maybe 40 and miss the old days of run dmc. rap isn't dead it has evolved. there is a lot of garbage out there but a lot of good new music too from east west midwest and down south.


I`m in my very early twenties. I never grew up with RUN DMC, I started with Jay-z, DMX etc.

The RUN DMC sound doesn`t jive with me, but I like their lyrics, minus the sneaker promotions.

Overall, when it comes to character, music, lyrics, I highly respect DMX and NAS the most.

They haven`t sold out to mainstream influence, and if they do, they will honestly tell their listeners in their songs.

Ex.

Nas: Don`t listen to me, I`m a Columbia Records slave. Create your own destiny.

 Quoting: Razrin

it sounds like you don't really like rap music then.. just maybe a certain genre of it. to say you like a kind of music but only enjoy 1% of the artists means you really don't like that kind of music. you should stick to r&b or poetry.. that sounds more like your style
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Rap music sucks now. (Or for the haters out there, it has always been a terrible medium of art & creative expression).


Raz, all too true. But there is rap and there is hip hop. Sage Francis, Sole (see the album 'Bottle of Humans' especially), and some others out there are fantastic artists and should not be grouped in with the likes of the names mentioned in this thread.

Just saying is all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 212026

no rap music is rap music. different artist have different styles and different things to express. just like in rock music you have the classic rock, 80's hair rock, metal, grunge, punk etc.. but its all still rock music
Razrin  (OP)

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12/13/2007 01:33 PM
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it sounds like you don't really like rap music then.. just maybe a certain genre of it. to say you like a kind of music but only enjoy 1% of the artists means you really don't like that kind of music. you should stick to r&b or poetry.. that sounds more like your style
 Quoting: hip hop junkie 339533


Yeah, I enjoy most forms of music. Or at the very least, respect them for adding content to the artists community, even if my opinion of their artistic content is nothing but tripe. Some people find tripe delicious. I tried it at a Vietanamese restaurant once... I thought it was just OK. Nothing spectacular.

But yeah, r&b and poetry is like a heroin iv drip to my ears.


Just hook it to my veins!

:)

-Razrin
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Razrin  (OP)

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Would like to share some of my personal experiences with Immortal Technique...

Before I start I want it known...I am not an expert on Hip Hop...and I will not get drawn into any debate of it. I know what I feel and what my spirit connects to.

I'm in my 50s and both my daughter, her husband and my son are very much into the underground hip hop (this is what I prefer to call the scene) scene here in the Chicago area. I was also the Executive Director of a youth empowerment organization for many years and a good part of our work was to empower young people with the assistance of creative arts...HIP HOP..and the elements of hip hop. I have seen the power that hip hop has when used in a positive manner (not meaning the lyrics but the actions of the people promoting it) and I am very hopeful that the future is in very good hands.

All we ever see in the mainstream is the commercialized hip hop that is promoted for other reasons (FEAR, IGNORANCE, APATHY) than for uplifting people out of their situations, whatever those situations may be. So the general public is vastly unaware of the modern prophets like Immortal Technique (there are others but he seems to be the one that really hits the nail on the head when calling out the politicians, the institutions, etc.).

I met Immortal and have stayed in contact with him over the years. My wife and I received invitations to his shows when he comes through Chi-town. I have seen him live one time and it was a lesson...in lyrical mastery. He is one of a kind...and the fact that he will not accept any deals that will restrict his ideas and the freedom to express them has earned my respect. He's not in it for the money..but to awaken people to what is taking place all around us.

That's my two cents. I was already older when hip hop was first becoming main stream. My musical era was motown and of any of the 60s music that awakened people to their greater potential.

Much peace, blessings and One Heart!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 108506


Whoa, awesome.

Thank you.

hf

In friendship and love,

-Razrin
Reality is felt through the heart. Human and intellectual retardation rule & govern all.
Razrin  (OP)

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12/13/2007 01:40 PM
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he´s being pursued by the fbi and the cia......his forthcoming album/dvd will have recordings of the conversations with these departments threatning him...........excellent artist with the balls to have as a chorus"""BUSH KNOCKED DOWN THE TOWERS"
Peruvian cocaine is my favourit song....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 339055


Of course.

Anyone with balls as huge as him, will have pursuers. Benevolent pursuers and all the others in between.

I`ll check out the song later. Thank you.

-Razrin
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12/13/2007 01:46 PM
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Razrin, if you like Immortal Tecnique, than you really would like Saul Williams. He is one of my favorites. Poet Laureate/Rapper/Revolutionary.

List of Demand-Saul Williams



Gunshots By Computer-Saul Williams/NIN



He writes about government oppression, The New World Order, and collaberates with Trent Reznor on many of his albums.
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.
-=JezaBella=-

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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!



LOVE Alisha Keyes!
 Quoting: Sireen-reborn


Ella Fitzgerald.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
~ Dr. Seuss
Spectrum Blue

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BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE MUCH BETTER MUSIC THAN RAP!



LOVE Alisha Keyes!


Ella Fitzgerald.
 Quoting: -=JezaBella=-


It don't mean a thing if it aaaaaaaaaain't got that swing. . .

I love Ella. Along with Louis Armstrong. Billy Holiday is one of my blues favorites.
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Razrin  (OP)

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Razrin, if you like Immortal Tecnique, than you really would like Saul Williams. He is one of my favorites. Poet Laureate/Rapper/Revolutionary.

List of Demand-Saul Williams



Gunshots By Computer-Saul Williams/NIN



He writes about government oppression, The New World Order, and collaberates with Trent Reznor on many of his albums.
 Quoting: Spectrum Blue


Hey Spec!

:)

Listened to first song, blew my mind.

Totally kill song. I like the bg music too, it uniquely blends well with the way he spits his lyrics.

In friendship and love,



-Razrin
Reality is felt through the heart. Human and intellectual retardation rule & govern all.





GLP