Jude 1:5 "Jesus Led the Israelites"? No Other Verses Say So - KJV Bible Study

It's all Irrevelant

It's Just the Mystery of the TRIUNE

God The Father
God The Son
God The Holy Spirit

Three Seperate Personages within ONE god.

Jesus is just the part of God that humbled himself in the flesh.

NONSENSE.

"3 personages"???? Rediculous.

Where does the Bible say "Triune God"?
Where does the Bible say "God the Son"?
Where does the Bible say "God the Holy Spirit"?

NOWHERE. It's manmade theology.

Jesus said the Father is God...
..the "only TRUE God"...
...His God and OUR God.
John 17:3 and 20:17.

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If my friend you have ever read the Gospels, and claim to be a Christian I am very confused how you could state this:

Where does the Bible say "God the Son"?

Not just the bible but the words attributed to Jesus himself, he was the son, of the father Yhwh etc, he was HIM god ummm.... it's what the whole Christain narrative is based upon.

It's what he was crucified and charged with.

It's the very reason and charge that he was sentenced to death for.

the Father was on the Throne in Heaven.

If He was at Sinai, who then was on the Throne of Heaven?

This is just one example of why I'm glad the NET is an option today.

The Jude 1:5 variant of "Iesous" has very strong textual witness behind it including Alexandrinus and Vaticanus in the original hands. It also appears in many of our best cursives.

However, the NET Bible isn't going to choose your reading for you. It is simply one text critical tool that has at last made text criticism accessible to the layman. And, if for no other reason, that is worth every penny you may spend on it.

The NET Bible presents textual witness facts.
Those facts may raise questions.
Those questions demand answers.

John 10:33 The J;ws answered Him, saying,
"For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God."

They understood Him perfectly and immediately...

yet here you are, years later, still stubbornly thinking you know better...

Have you ever noticed,
surely you have,
that the common theme
of your every post
in every thread
basically
is to deny Jesus Christ?
Do you think this pleases The Father?

You are here to tell everyone to believe as you do, right?
Now tell us how the truth is really just whatever you always say so therefore yeah and Jesus Christ is not YOUR LORD,
right?

God taking on any manly appearance would be this (same) second person of God, colloquially Jesus. We could probably call Him the Son. Like Adam, He operates in a form and body (albeit one we still can’t fathom).

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Well, if you must know my thoughts on the Jesus variant in Jude 1:5, I simply compare Ephraemi Rescriptus (5th century) to P72 (3rd).

Both Alexandrinus and Vaticanus exhibit the Trinitarian push that raged in the 3rd and 4th centuries.

P72 has the reading Ho Theos Iesus. The Jesus addition is obviously a scribal gloss here.

Manuscript C (Ephraemi Rescriptus) is the only uncial codex that preserves the original Ho Theos alone.

Alexandrinus is wrong. Vaticanus is wrong. P72 is wrong. And the KJV is wrong in following the late cursive reading of "Ho Kurios".

Ephraemi Rescriptus preserves the original reading of Ho Theos.

This does nothing to argue for or against the Trinitarian belief, it's just not Jude's subject matter.

P72 is wrong. Vaticanus is wrong. Alexandrinus is wrong. Dan Wallace is wrong. And the King James Bible is wrong.

The 5th century Ephraemi Rescriptus is the sole correct uncial on this variant.

That's why it really helps to have studied textual criticism at the collegiate level before diving headlong into the NET Bible or otherwise. There's nothing more dangerous than a little Greek except a little textual criticism.

And, no, I don't just blindly follow Dan Wallace. I think Dallas Theological produces a lot of good reference material. I also think Dan Wallace lets his feelings override his method at times. That's a no no in this discipline.

1Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock(PETRA) was Christ.

1Corinthians 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

Psalms 78:18 And they tempted GOD in their heart by asking meat for their lust.