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I just got out of the shower....lol, my "magic place." I get some of the best guidance from guidance while in the shower....or even on the toilet. Many years ago I was tinkling and the spirit shaman came to visit...while I was peeing. I asked why does he only come to me while I'm on the toilet. The response was because it was the only time I slowed down enough to be able to listen....chuckle


So I get in the shower and I hear, "What is it you think is going to happen to your family if they don't listen to you?"

Well, I don't know....but that's the problem, I don't know.

"Control is the problem, all the way around, and there is very little of it for the common human being."

Okay, so I write this letter to them, send it off to them, and then just let go, is that what you're saying?

"Do YOU see any other way?"

____________


Heh....no, at least no other way that isn't mired with worry and concern....and I know better than to stay in the body fuck I've been in this morning for too long.

Harhar, I do need to let go of my feeeeeeelings....charlie
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Ecclesiastes
Chapter 1
13And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.

14I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

15That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.

16I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.

17And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.

18For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
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It's one of the hallmarks of this reality realm. Here, the truth "hurts"....but that's a pain I whole heartedly embrace.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


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I just got out of the shower....lol, my "magic place." I get some of the best guidance from guidance while in the shower....or even on the toilet. Many years ago I was tinkling and the spirit shaman came to visit...while I was peeing. I asked why does he only come to me while I'm on the toilet. The response was because it was the only time I slowed down enough to be able to listen....chuckle


So I get in the shower and I hear, "What is it you think is going to happen to your family if they don't listen to you?"

Well, I don't know....but that's the problem, I don't know.

"Control is the problem, all the way around, and there is very little of it for the common human being."

Okay, so I write this letter to them, send it off to them, and then just let go, is that what you're saying?

"Do YOU see any other way?"

____________


Heh....no, at least no other way that isn't mired with worry and concern....and I know better than to stay in the body fuck I've been in this morning for too long.

Harhar, I do need to let go of my feeeeeeelings....charlie
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


We have a similar issue here.

One of my siblings and their family is this way. They cut themselves off, because they don't want to hear what we have to share.

They will get a letter, but that's about all we can do.
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ONLY time I can discuss ANY of the issues raised on GLP threads is on GLP. Truth.
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Same.
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I just got out of the shower....lol, my "magic place." I get some of the best guidance from guidance while in the shower....or even on the toilet. Many years ago I was tinkling and the spirit shaman came to visit...while I was peeing. I asked why does he only come to me while I'm on the toilet. The response was because it was the only time I slowed down enough to be able to listen....chuckle


So I get in the shower and I hear, "What is it you think is going to happen to your family if they don't listen to you?"

Well, I don't know....but that's the problem, I don't know.

"Control is the problem, all the way around, and there is very little of it for the common human being."

Okay, so I write this letter to them, send it off to them, and then just let go, is that what you're saying?

"Do YOU see any other way?"

____________


Heh....no, at least no other way that isn't mired with worry and concern....and I know better than to stay in the body fuck I've been in this morning for too long.

Harhar, I do need to let go of my feeeeeeelings....charlie
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


We have a similar issue here.

One of my siblings and their family is this way. They cut themselves off, because they don't want to hear what we have to share.

They will get a letter, but that's about all we can do.
 Quoting: Osmium76



Well, at least this thread hasn't been for naught. We've found a way we can do something, without starting a family world war.

Once they've read what I wrote, if they still stay in their ignorance, then I will know I've done what I can....although I know it won't lessen the sadness if they just reject everything I have to say.


Do y'all know how much I despise what TPTB are doing to us? I'm not even sure how deep that well of despise goes. It seems to be never ending.
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First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media.

Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being.

My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News."

I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?....blink

So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy.

sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly.

For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.


headshot


Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay.


I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy....scream


Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy



I have been marching to the beat of my own drum for so long it’s been ages since I have given two fucks about convincing anybody of anything. Family, friends, are literally all replaceable with whatever floats my boat.

You will know when you have crossed my patience for stupidity because, you won’t hear from me all that much. It’s how life has to be for my own sanity and it’s how your should be as well. We are conditioned to think that family is somehow sacred but it really isn’t. Those fuckers can be as retarded and useless as anyone.

That attitude has given me such a solid group I can only thank myself, for having the balls to tell anyone to fuck off, not just in words but in deed.
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First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media.

Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being.

My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News."

I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?....blink

So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy.

sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly.

For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.


headshot


Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay.


I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy....scream


Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy



There are always people that you will not be able to reach with the truth. At least not in a direct manor, they will put they blinders on and not a word will actually be listened to.

Those people have to have their eye opened for them while at the same time their realizations they are beginning to understand have to appear to be some they are discovering on their own.

Not an easy task. You have to present information to them in forms of questions that there is nothing but the answer you wnat them to have and nothing more. From there it is about providing them facts that are undeniable, no matter the source or at least comes from a source they already believe to be true.

All of this has to be done knowing that there is. 99% chance you still want get through to them...just remember though, that means that at some point in 100 attempts, there is a certain point that will get through and make a difference. The key is not to show the frustration you have in getting to that point.

Good luck...
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I’m in the same boat with my dad who just recently wanted to reconcile after almost 30 years of being pretty nonexistent. He came to visit a month ago and while it is obvious he is a Democrat, I worked hard to avoid politics. He visited again this past weekend and all that he wanted to discuss (outside of himself) was politics.

He also has no internet access and watches CNN ALL day long. He hates Trump and demeans anyone who supports him and anyone who believes in conspiracy theories, because there’s nothing of truth on the internet. At this point, I’m just hoping he doesn’t want to visit again. I’m good with being estranged, sadly.
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In my case, I speak my mind and share my sources to the extent possible. Some of my family and friends have come around (or were always there), and one or two have actually made a “180,” and that’s the best outcome I could hope for. The rest will have to learn with the rest.

I will always love them all, and they me. But in the end, we can only do so much. In time, everyone with the exception of the trulynindoctrinated slave will have no choice but to acknowledge your truth.

Just keep working it, enjoy it when someone “comes around,” forgive those that don’t or can’t, and be prepared to help those willing to listen. In time, your efforts will prove fruitful.

It’s a sad and lonely existence for those that see, but there are many more of us out there than most think. You’d probably be surprised at how many of us are out here struggling with the same issues.
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All cults take members away from familys. Convert,belive,
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First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media.

Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being.

My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News."

I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?....blink

So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy.

sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly.

For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.


headshot


Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay.


I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy....scream


Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy



There are always people that you will not be able to reach with the truth. At least not in a direct manor, they will put they blinders on and not a word will actually be listened to.

Those people have to have their eye opened for them while at the same time their realizations they are beginning to understand have to appear to be some they are discovering on their own.

Not an easy task. You have to present information to them in forms of questions that there is nothing but the answer you wnat them to have and nothing more. From there it is about providing them facts that are undeniable, no matter the source or at least comes from a source they already believe to be true.

All of this has to be done knowing that there is. 99% chance you still want get through to them...just remember though, that means that at some point in 100 attempts, there is a certain point that will get through and make a difference. The key is not to show the frustration you have in getting to that point.

Good luck...
 Quoting: truthseeker07



Frustration, I'm sure all will agree, is a key word for us. It is indeed a very frustrating situation....like over the top frustrating....again, brick wall frustrating.


I see some of you have already been where I'm at today, and you've already settled into your conclusions. I know that couldn't have been easy for you. I don't think I've read one poster say they were able to turn the tide for their loved ones....and know that this is speaking volumes to me.

After Trump was elected the first time, we had a family get together. It was my mom, her husband, my brother, and my son and his SO in the van. All of them were hating on Trump....and of course I had to say something. Man oh man, did I ever get pile driven....rimshot while driving in crazy El Paso traffic. We had to agree to stop discussing it.

I don't know how many times the kids came over, and we'd have heated discussions about it, always having to leave it alone, save the worst happen.

Before this last election my son came over and told me he had just registered to vote, and his vote was going to the President, and definitely not to Biden. It took four years of talking to him....FOUR YEARS!

I'll tell ya, that was one of the happiest days....flower


And it's not that I just want to be right, it's that I want right done, okay?


But four years....the ignorant are a stubborn bunch.


I called my son this morning, and he helped talk it out with me.

It really does seem to come down to the horse and the water....nobody can be forced to change their beliefs.


I write letter. I send letter. I let go.


The rest is up to them.

And I pray we have a good visit....pray
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DON'T GIVE UP I JUST WOKE UP A 73 YR OLD MOM

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DON'T ANY OF YOU REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A WAR? SILENCE FOOLS....ALL OF YOUR SNIVELING ARGUMENTS MEAN NOTHING
 Quoting: MING THE MERCILESS



Yes, we are not fuckwits....for fucks sake.


It's bothering you that we're trying to talk this out, how to deal with our LOVED ones?....then get the fuck off the thread.


goaway


I'm so not in the mood to deal with your brand of bullshit....huffy
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DON'T ANY OF YOU REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A WAR? SILENCE FOOLS....ALL OF YOUR SNIVELING ARGUMENTS MEAN NOTHING
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I have a few left-wing family members and friends. When I try to tell them what is going on, they will say something like, "I don't go in for conspiracy theories".

The media has trained people very well. They have successfully indoctrinated people to only believe what they tell them to believe.
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I just heard from my guidance, "Let go".

I can't let go of my family, I respond.

"Not your family, what your feeling. You are spiraling down."

Not to care about them?, I respond.


Silence.


Of course silence, because I'm spiraling and can't be talked to....sigh


This is some real fuckery, this indelible love.


I suppose I can plant my feet firmly in that indelible love....and let go of the rest of it. Maybe. That'll be a first, and I'm a letting go artist.


They are adults....just really ill informed adults. I am indeed able to inform them....heh, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them to drink it".

I don't think I'm even able to get them to the watering hole....:shrug:
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


let go that which you cannot change... and you will stop swirling in it. hf
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Thank you, lovey.....heh, if we were in the same room, I would take a hug from you.

I know I'm tapping into some family dynamic this morning. We really weren't allowed to talk about much as kids....it was a "speak when you're spoken to" kind of mentality growing up. So I'm fighting against that within myself right now, too.

I keep having this memory come back for me here the past hour, one wherein my mother snapped at me so harshly. I had asked her for one of her makeup removing pads, they were called Coats or Koats, or something like that, and I mistakenly asked her for a Kotex. I was 13.

She loudly yelled at me saying I knew she wasn't going to discuss that with me. I didn't even know what I had done wrong. It took me a bit to figure it out.

We did not discuss ANYTHING in my family....not even something as natural and as important as menses.

As hard as it is to admit, I have that shut up little girl in me right now, sitting scared of what's to come (because I never knew). I've been jittering inside all morning.


It's growing time for the gypsy....charlie
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Lots of stuff in mine too.. particularly with my Mother. One night I was out on a date SHE INSISTED I GO on... and I was raped in his vehicle on a back country road. I had no control on that one and couldn't walk home either so he did bring me home..

I came in very late... and I looked not so good.. and I got screamed at for being a whore...never was allowed to explain why I was late.... I didn't even try after that... and had to let it go... she was a drunk too .. didn't help...

I had to take myself out of the swirl... and it was a good lesson in that regard.

There has to be forgiveness and I did... forgiveness is for the person forgiving... I never was able to tell her I forgave her on that one... it was the inner forgiveness.. but I never swirled again after that..
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DON'T ANY OF YOU REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A WAR? SILENCE FOOLS....ALL OF YOUR SNIVELING ARGUMENTS MEAN NOTHING
 Quoting: MING THE MERCILESS


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SILENCE FOOL!!!......charlie
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I just heard from my guidance, "Let go".

I can't let go of my family, I respond.

"Not your family, what your feeling. You are spiraling down."

Not to care about them?, I respond.


Silence.


Of course silence, because I'm spiraling and can't be talked to....sigh


This is some real fuckery, this indelible love.


I suppose I can plant my feet firmly in that indelible love....and let go of the rest of it. Maybe. That'll be a first, and I'm a letting go artist.


They are adults....just really ill informed adults. I am indeed able to inform them....heh, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them to drink it".

I don't think I'm even able to get them to the watering hole....shrug
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


let go that which you cannot change... and you will stop swirling in it. hf
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Thank you, lovey.....heh, if we were in the same room, I would take a hug from you.

I know I'm tapping into some family dynamic this morning. We really weren't allowed to talk about much as kids....it was a "speak when you're spoken to" kind of mentality growing up. So I'm fighting against that within myself right now, too.

I keep having this memory come back for me here the past hour, one wherein my mother snapped at me so harshly. I had asked her for one of her makeup removing pads, they were called Coats or Koats, or something like that, and I mistakenly asked her for a Kotex. I was 13.

She loudly yelled at me saying I knew she wasn't going to discuss that with me. I didn't even know what I had done wrong. It took me a bit to figure it out.

We did not discuss ANYTHING in my family....not even something as natural and as important as menses.

As hard as it is to admit, I have that shut up little girl in me right now, sitting scared of what's to come (because I never knew). I've been jittering inside all morning.


It's growing time for the gypsy....charlie
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Lots of stuff in mine too.. particularly with my Mother. One night I was out on a date SHE INSISTED I GO on... and I was raped in his vehicle on a back country road. I had no control on that one and couldn't walk home either so he did bring me home..

I came in very late... and I looked not so good.. and I got screamed at for being a whore...never was allowed to explain why I was late.... I didn't even try after that... and had to let it go... she was a drunk too .. didn't help...

I had to take myself out of the swirl... and it was a good lesson in that regard.

There has to be forgiveness and I did... forgiveness is for the person forgiving... I never was able to tell her I forgave her on that one... it was the inner forgiveness.. but I never swirled again after that..
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL



Yes, to forgive is to become more self aware....hugs

It's just been a rough morning, lovey. I have a plan now, so I have something to move forward with....I certainly can't stay like this.

I know this kind of intensity within myself. I know I'm going to need to sleep before this internal churning is going to ease up. My brain "resets" when I sleep....thank my lucky stars.

My body is on overdrive right now, it's responding naturally to stress (I know myself very well), and there's not much I can do about it. I'll just have to roll with it for today.

As I like to tell myself, tomorrow is a new day!
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Move and stay away. My gf gets it and that's all I need.
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Thank you Osium76 for the "remark". I may not be much of a Bible person, but that was....well, it's a very good passage....Philippians 4:8


8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.


Heh, it doesn't say to shove those beliefs on another.


It says what I espouse most days, that thinking correctly is of the utmost importance, and all else can and should fall away.

This has me to feeing like a lone wolf, though....when it comes to my blood.


Heh, sleep time can't come fast enough today....charlie
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In regards to abortions I don't think its a bad thing to allow it. The law doesn't deter anyone who is determined to get one, and that often means worse fates like backyard abortions be dumpster babies which end up as far worse.

Aside from that the law currently allows guns which grant you the opportunity to abort anyone at any stage of their lives. However in this scenario the only want to blame for the murders It's the person who shot the gun not the gun not the person who passed the laws for the gun not the people who voted for those laws.
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In regards to abortions I don't think its a bad thing to allow it. The law doesn't deter anyone who is determined to get one, and that often means worse fates like backyard abortions be dumpster babies which end up as far worse.

Aside from that the law currently allows guns which grant you the opportunity to abort anyone at any stage of their lives. However in this scenario the only want to blame for the murders It's the person who shot the gun not the gun not the person who passed the laws for the gun not the people who voted for those laws.
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Well, I do have OVER THE TOP reservations about FULL TERM abortions.

Do you understand this term, "Full term abortions"?


It's the murder of a fully developed human being. And they are saying it's okay.

Myself and many others are here to say this is not okay.


Hopefully, no one has taken that law to heart, and has expelled their fully formed infant. I haven't heard of anyone doing this.


This full term abortion stuff definitely says something about us as a species....and it's not pretty, by a long shot.
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Just put everything but the love you have for them and they have for you aside. Focus on the love. A friend of mine who thought I was nuts recently passed. He let me know after he passed that he is sorry and that now he understands and that it is worse than most know. So focus on the love, building the relationship. We all need to 'warm before we 'warn'. Lots to get in order first before the outside clusterfuck
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Just put everything but the love you have for them and they have for you aside. Focus on the love. A friend of mine who thought I was nuts recently passed. He let me know after he passed that he is sorry and that now he understands and that it is worse than most know. So focus on the love, building the relationship. We all need to 'warm before we 'warn'. Lots to get in order first before the outside clusterfuck
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Thank you, lovey....hugs
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All cults take members away from familys. Convert,belive,
and obey. Unbelivers must be rejected and treated as enemies of the cult.
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Doesnt Jesus tell his followers to leave their parents behind? I'm quite sure he does, as this is one of these cults.
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Stick to facts only and have the sources to back up those facts

Turn it on them to prove what they are saying

Don’t mention forums or internet AT ALL

Only share facts that you can back with written documents

This way, with facts they may begin to question their sources of news

Don’t present new information, stick to a mild debate if they bring up something you know you have documentation to back up your position

Little steps and just enjoy your family. You can’t change anyone, you can only change yourself
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First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media.

Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being.

My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News."

I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?....blink

So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy.

sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly.

For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.


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Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay.


I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy....scream


Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only.
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When you go visit, bring the book, the kid by the side of the road. Leave it there. Don’t mention it until they do later on, after they hopefully read it. Good luck. Love rules.
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I have a few left-wing family members and friends. When I try to tell them what is going on, they will say something like, "I don't go in for conspiracy theories".

The media has trained people very well. They have successfully indoctrinated people to only believe what they tell them to believe.
 Quoting: Peepaws


the mind in MOST people is a tape recorder... and they cannot move past their programming.. it takes something big to chip into it.. we have some truth telling coming up and that may change something. I haven't seen my own son in law since I accidently mentioned Trump in a conversation and I had no idea how HE felt.

All these years later most people believe the lies on 911 too. that one worked well to get support for stealing Greater Israel and genocide that happened.. millions.





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