RE: The Media.....I gotta get this off my chest | |
TheFool
Bajoran lightship ~ guest User ID: 79819224 United States 03/17/2021 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even if your parents did have access to the information .. 'you can lead a horse to water...' and all that. Hope you are able to hang in there https://imgur.com/a/RzWDC ***All in my opinion of course*** |
darth
User ID: 28178764 United States 03/17/2021 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel the same pain. Even the "conservatives" in my family believe the boob tube. It's a bit surreal. They believe the obvious lies and distortions while refusing to consider anything else as a "conspiracy theory". I pointed out the many times in my life that the media totally LIED and that I knew the truth reality behind the curtain. They cannot mentally process it. The TV controls them. BTW, when I was raising my first two kids in the 1980s and 90s, I refused to have a TV set in the house. No cable. No antenna. We lived in a semi-rural area. My kids never saw TV until they hit age 10 and visited other kids. Until then, they were outdoors playing or reading books. They turned out GREAT! |
We Who Watch.
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Patriot_In_Waiting
User ID: 71796270 United States 03/17/2021 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being. My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News." I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?.... So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy. ....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home." I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly. For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it. Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay. I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.... Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only. You should show them one of the clips where every news station in the country does the same reporting with the same story..... Patriot_In_Waiting My name is patriot_in_waiting and I'm a GLPTARD If we get caught.....I'm deaf, and you don't speak English |
MaxHeadroomIntrusion
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cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you considered that they want to alienate families? Communism loves that as a prelude to seizing countries. They don't want you protecting mom, dad, and Aunt Susie. Quoting: We Who Watch. I knew they were dividing families a few years ago.....I just don't want it to happen to mine. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being. My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News." I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?.... So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy. ....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home." I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly. For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it. Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay. I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.... Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only. You should show them one of the clips where every news station in the country does the same reporting with the same story..... Once we get together I will be able to do that. I'll have my laptop with me, and a spare one. But for now, there's no way to do that. They are computer illiterate. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80144211 United States 03/17/2021 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just heard from my guidance, "Let go". Quoting: cosmicgypsy I can't let go of my family, I respond. "Not your family, what your feeling. You are spiraling down." Not to care about them?, I respond. Silence. Of course silence, because I'm spiraling and can't be talked to.... This is some real fuckery, this indelible love. I suppose I can plant my feet firmly in that indelible love....and let go of the rest of it. Maybe. That'll be a first, and I'm a letting go artist. They are adults....just really ill informed adults. I am indeed able to inform them....heh, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them to drink it". I don't think I'm even able to get them to the watering hole....:shrug: let go that which you cannot change... and you will stop swirling in it. |
Fizarak
User ID: 79406230 United States 03/17/2021 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, it's pretty crazy. "That isn't true. If it was someone would say something" "I don't believe that person saying something" They think that companies/government couldn't do such terrible things - that someone would stop them or say something. Yet when people are brave enough to say something (which amounts to being un-personed these days - job loss, banned from primary social media, sometimes even banks closing accounts) they are called crazy. People seem to think there is some law that the news organizations have to tell the truth. There isn't. In fact most of the prominent ones have had lawsuits they won where they argued that it is obvious that it is entertainment not news and that no rational person would take them seriously. Pretty sure both Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow have had cases like that. And yet those organizations are the only ones the sheeple trust. Scary to think that people you once thought of as friends/family would be so easily brainwashed. Also scary how aggressively they defend their own cognitive dissonance. Then know that those same people would stand by, if not help, while you are loaded on to the buses to the camps when the time comes. They will rat you out for some hope of reward or praise. So... yeah. Good luck. |
mikke(L)
User ID: 79749445 Poland 03/17/2021 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh well, my parents are the same. I actually wrote an MA thesis on the language of propaganda and I simply cant stand this absurd reality. I havent had normal tv channels on my tv for like 20 years, since I moved out of my parents' place. I cant communicate with most of the society. I can understand you perfectly well, I dont even try to discuss current subjects with my parents. Though, at least my sister seems to have some critical thinking capacity. Anyway, what Im unable to grasp is how you can be a seemingly intelligent, educated person and at the same time completely braindead... |
cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just heard from my guidance, "Let go". Quoting: cosmicgypsy I can't let go of my family, I respond. "Not your family, what your feeling. You are spiraling down." Not to care about them?, I respond. Silence. Of course silence, because I'm spiraling and can't be talked to.... This is some real fuckery, this indelible love. I suppose I can plant my feet firmly in that indelible love....and let go of the rest of it. Maybe. That'll be a first, and I'm a letting go artist. They are adults....just really ill informed adults. I am indeed able to inform them....heh, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them to drink it". I don't think I'm even able to get them to the watering hole.... let go that which you cannot change... and you will stop swirling in it. Thank you, lovey.....heh, if we were in the same room, I would take a hug from you. I know I'm tapping into some family dynamic this morning. We really weren't allowed to talk about much as kids....it was a "speak when you're spoken to" kind of mentality growing up. So I'm fighting against that within myself right now, too. I keep having this memory come back for me here the past hour, one wherein my mother snapped at me so harshly. I had asked her for one of her makeup removing pads, they were called Coats or Koats, or something like that, and I mistakenly asked her for a Kotex. I was 13. She loudly yelled at me saying I knew she wasn't going to discuss that with me. I didn't even know what I had done wrong. It took me a bit to figure it out. We did not discuss ANYTHING in my family....not even something as natural and as important as menses. As hard as it is to admit, I have that shut up little girl in me right now, sitting scared of what's to come (because I never knew). I've been jittering inside all morning. It's growing time for the gypsy.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
The Reverse Engineer
User ID: 79585113 United States 03/17/2021 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for posting this. I can’t get through to my parents either. My dad is the most disappointing, because he really should be smart enough to know better. But my mom is neurotic, and he does whatever she says. With the rest of the world, I could just say, “Let the stupid people euthanize themselves,” but I really, really don’t want to see my parents die this way. And there is nothing I can do. I used to text videos and articles to my dad, but I know after one or two of those, anyone would start ignoring them. So now I just pray that they will be ok. Even though I am not big on prayer. I will include your own family in my prayers, for whatever it’s worth. And thank you again for this thread. |
omg911bbq
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cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for posting this. I can’t get through to my parents either. My dad is the most disappointing, because he really should be smart enough to know better. But my mom is neurotic, and he does whatever she says. Quoting: The Reverse Engineer With the rest of the world, I could just say, “Let the stupid people euthanize themselves,” but I really, really don’t want to see my parents die this way. And there is nothing I can do. I used to text videos and articles to my dad, but I know after one or two of those, anyone would start ignoring them. So now I just pray that they will be ok. Even though I am not big on prayer. I will include your own family in my prayers, for whatever it’s worth. And thank you again for this thread. All the many responses on this thread, with posters saying they're in the same boat....it's terribly sad what they're doing to us, or trying to do. ....and thank you for thinking of my family in your "well wishes". It really is very kind of you to think to do that.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
just a dude
User ID: 80080280 United States 03/17/2021 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why script your visit go with the flow, be you they are being themselves so be you it might take years for some to get over, at the very least you won't feel entangled in their web (bundle of timelines) you share history, use that to help them relate to parallels, you might find that easier than them trying to swallow the latest (which they missed) |
evangeline claire
User ID: 79831520 United States 03/17/2021 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being. My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News." I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?.... So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy. ....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home." I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly. For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it. Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay. I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.... Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only. Quite frankly, I find it hard to believe you can have anything to do with them because they believe in killing babies. I see that you can love them, but why do you want to be around them. You know evilness usually rubs off on people much easier that goodness. I guess I am blessed that all my family believes in the sanctity of life as do my friends - except for one former friend who I called out stating that if you encourage people or say it is OK to have an abortion, you are encouraging sin and God does not look lightly upon that. I will pray for you but even more so for you family. Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! |
Rokenjima
User ID: 20847497 Canada 03/17/2021 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First time posting, but what you said got to me. My mom is 80 and lives across the country. We were talking about Covid and she believes everything the media says. I mentioned Hydroxychloroquin(sp?), and she said if something like that existed, that would mean the government and the media had been lying. I said 'Bingo', she didn't believe me, and won't talk about it. Didn't want me to send her the information I've collected. I love her and hope to see her again, but at the rate our government is going, I'm starting to doubt I ever will. |
cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why script your visit Quoting: just a dude go with the flow, be you they are being themselves so be you it might take years for some to get over, at the very least you won't feel entangled in their web (bundle of timelines) you share history, use that to help them relate to parallels, you might find that easier than them trying to swallow the latest (which they missed) I've wondered this myself....why am I concerned about something that hasn't happened yet? Their eyes could be opened by the time we get together, eh? I could just be borrowing trouble, right? Meh, I'm suspecting at this point that old family dynamic has to do with it....but that's not all of it. My mother is stubborn AND ignorant of what's happening. It's not a good pairing. Along with that, she's finally found her own voice. The men she's been married to in her life always treated her as an underling. Now that her husband has passed (last year), she has no one telling her to shut up....and her new found "voice" is very shrill....heh, she's found her yelling voice. It ought to take her the rest of her life to get out all the resentment she's built up over the decades....lawdy. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being. My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News." I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?.... So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy. ....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home." I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly. For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it. Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay. I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.... Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only. Quite frankly, I find it hard to believe you can have anything to do with them because they believe in killing babies. I see that you can love them, but why do you want to be around them. You know evilness usually rubs off on people much easier that goodness. I guess I am blessed that all my family believes in the sanctity of life as do my friends - except for one former friend who I called out stating that if you encourage people or say it is OK to have an abortion, you are encouraging sin and God does not look lightly upon that. I will pray for you but even more so for you family. No thank you. I don't need your kind of attention through prayer.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Vivarium
User ID: 79581954 United States 03/17/2021 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just let it all go. Truth is self satisfying. It doesn't have to be for everyone and it is enough to be content within your self. None of it matters when she is gone and it's not really important for her at her age. Maybe you're just paranoid, pudders. |
cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First time posting, but what you said got to me. My mom is 80 and lives across the country. We were talking about Covid and she believes everything the media says. I mentioned Hydroxychloroquin(sp?), and she said if something like that existed, that would mean the government and the media had been lying. I said 'Bingo', she didn't believe me, and won't talk about it. Didn't want me to send her the information I've collected. I love her and hope to see her again, but at the rate our government is going, I'm starting to doubt I ever will. Quoting: Rokenjima That's the thing, if I were to decide to not go to our little reunion, just to save myself some grief (is that a good enough reason?), and she passed? When I could've been with her one more time? I'm not sure how I'd be able to forgive myself.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
ScouseDee
User ID: 79456470 United Kingdom 03/17/2021 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading these posts, I feel really lucky. I have a husband, three children and a granddaughter. Hubby is well on board with the things that I tell him I've learned. Two daughters are mostly on board, son just likes to argue for the sake of arguing. Granddaughter is sixteen, typical teenager, thinks she knows everything, but even she is starting to see what's going on. My advice to OP is that as your mother and brother are firmly fixed in their ways, arguing your opinions is not going to change that. Unless you can download and print some of the info you've acquired and ask them 'Tell me what you think of this..or this' Maybe it will get through to them and make them think. Good luck :) ScouseDee |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76448548 United States 03/17/2021 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being. My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News." I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?.... So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy. ....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home." I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly. For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it. :headshot: Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay. I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.... Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only. I finally realized that if my friends and loved ones haven't got it by now when it seems do obvious then they will never get it. It takes all my strength to stop myself from bringing it up. I don't see any value in upsetting an 82 yr old. They have been in a different paradigm for way to long. That being said. You gotta do what you gotta do. |
Vivarium
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cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being. My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News." I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?.... So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy. ....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home." I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly. For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it. Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay. I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.... Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only. I finally realized that if my friends and loved ones haven't got it by now when it seems do obvious then they will never get it. It takes all my strength to stop myself from bringing it up. I don't see any value in upsetting an 82 yr old. They have been in a different paradigm for way to long. That being said. You gotta do what you gotta do. And neither do I....however, I still have to live with myself. I suppose I'm here in this thread trying to find a way to live okay within myself, despite the fact my family is ignorant of what's really going on. It's why I haven't busted a move on the truth to her most of the time, because she gets so very upset and like I can barely believe angry. I don't want to be the reason my mom keels over....jeebus, talk about hard to live with. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 03/17/2021 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would urge you to go. You can't control others only yourself and that is so powerful. Peace to you cosmicgypsy. Quoting: Vivarium Thank you....and yes, I just realized a few minutes ago that control has a lot to do with it, on everyone's part. More for me to think about. My heart to yours, lovey.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 03/17/2021 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have let go. My family is about 50/50. .any woke up during the Obama years. Some are still clueless. I have made it clear to the clueless ones that when the consequences of their willful ignorance comes home to roost, I will not rescue them. I have my own family to protect. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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User ID: 77682635 United States 03/17/2021 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being. My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News." I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?.... So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy. ....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home." I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly. For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it. Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay. I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.... Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only. It is long too late..... they have the Zombie Apocalypse Virus. At this point it would not matter what you could show them, even if they would look at it, That would change their course. If you want to stay on some reasonable terms with them eventually you will have to self infect yourself with the virus too..... Then they will be happy. But I think you already know this. Ominous regressions One Truth... many realities |
Bailey Howe
User ID: 69360062 United States 03/17/2021 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being. My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News." I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?.... So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy. ....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home." I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly. For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it. Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay. I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy.... Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only. OP im in the exact same situation as you are but its my brother and my daughter. Just take it off the table, put it away and dont worry about them waking up because you cant Be the best person you can be for them because in the end thats all that really matters "When I got up this morning Sigmund Freud was still in medical school" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80141676 United States 03/17/2021 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ecclesiastes Chapter 1 13And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith. 14I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit. 15That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered. 16I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge. 17And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. 18For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. |