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First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media.

Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being.

My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News."

I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?....blink

So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy.

sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly.

For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.


headshot


Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay.


I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy....scream


Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only.
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I dont understand why the belly of the bird still vote period for either wing that is attacted to a single head. seems like the head plan to create two wings to divide the belly for the heads own personal profit and gains. but hey go line up again red or blue. you ever wonder why they line up on both sides like cattle. even cattle are divided and lined up in multiple lines also. following one by one.


the head does not care what the belly wants. the head uses the wings to control the belly. for each of there own deeds. all still going to the one head.
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I took me telling my mom that the whole continent of Australia has put a halt to the vaccine because people were testing positive for HIV after getting it, because there is HIV in the vaccine....just to get her to put a pause on her thinking getting this "vaccine" is perfectly fine for her.

And of course, does she know almost every country in Europe has halted the vaccine as well? Is the MSM reporting on this? That started happening right after we got off the phone from that conversation.

I know I should call her and tell her....but I am getting tired of standing in front of that "brick wall".
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In the same boat... Hang in there.

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Religion should not rule goverments, and no religion should impose their rules by force over the rest. People must be free to belive or not to belive. Nobody will pay for sombdy else sin, and those who force their belives on people are wrong, have no faith, no trust, and no knowledge of God and Cristh ways. Its been said that the beast will force people to bow, to obey the rules, and to give glory, and many will think its ok.
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ONLY time I can discuss ANY of the issues raised on GLP threads is on GLP. Truth.
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I just realized how it's going to go from here on out....fuck me.


I'm going to love my family, all the while I will believe they are ignorant....and I don't take a shine to immovable ignorance.

I ask myself, can they be moved?....maybe, when we get together. Maybe. But I'll have to be fighting for them - and with them - every step of the way....while walking a fucking thin line.


I honestly don't want this battle....when I think about it, that's my conclusion. I don't want it.


I know I will have accomplished something great for them, if they would at least listen to me....sigh but I am le tired of all of this.


I'm not sure what to do. Giving up is not my way, no matter how le tired I am.

Thinking about how the visit could go is making me sick to my stomach, thinking about how I'll have to sit there with my mouth shut, least I rock the boat.

And I know it's going to happen, because it already has during phone conversations....and I'm just unable to go off on them.

Like I said, my brother just laughs at me, and my mom screams.

I don't know what to do....shrug
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Media and politics?

This is the war on your soul.

EVERYTHING is designed to steer you from your destiny.
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I long ago lost credibility with family over my conspiracy theories and politics so I don’t mind making them upset and we’ve had some spirited discussions in the past, however I’ve lost interest in doing that these days.
It doesn’t matter that much anymore to me what they believe.
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sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Don't bring up anything related to politics, COVID, etc and don't respond if they do. Your relationship with them is more important than convincing them you're right (which won't happen).

It's frustrating but just realize that they are where they are in their belief system and you are at a different place. It's not up to you to educate them, it's up to them to educate themselves. It's really not your place to do so.

I guess I'm saying to meet them wherever they are in their mindset and find common ground.
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I just heard from my guidance, "Let go".

I can't let go of my family, I respond.

"Not your family, what your feeling. You are spiraling down."

Not to care about them?, I respond.


Silence.


Of course silence, because I'm spiraling and can't be talked to....sigh


This is some real fuckery, this indelible love.


I suppose I can plant my feet firmly in that indelible love....and let go of the rest of it. Maybe. That'll be a first, and I'm a letting go artist.


They are adults....just really ill informed adults. I am indeed able to inform them....heh, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them to drink it".

I don't think I'm even able to get them to the watering hole....shrug
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First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media.

Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being.

My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News."

I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?....blink

So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy.

sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly.

For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.


headshot


Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay.


I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy....scream


Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only.
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You're sick of the hypocrisy while posting a most hypocritical thread.

Your "Secondly" says you do not raise politics, religion, or money up above your family and friends." Yet, the rest of your post is how you're trying to convince your mother and family of the steal, of your point of view on how DJT won the election, and how they are wrong because they watch the news. You simply assume they are unable to form their own opinions, thinking they are brainwashed by the MSM. Yet, hilariously, they think the exact same thing about you.

And you're both right. Which is why you shouldn't be talking politics with your family at all.
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sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Don't bring up anything related to politics, COVID, etc and don't respond if they do. Your relationship with them is more important than convincing them you're right (which won't happen).

It's frustrating but just realize that they are where they are in their belief system and you are at a different place. It's not up to you to educate them, it's up to them to educate themselves. It's really not your place to do so.

I guess I'm saying to meet them wherever they are in their mindset and find common ground.
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yep..everyone is on their own now to 'awake' ..they will just demonize you...

i dont talk to anyone anymore if they are not 'there' somewhat...lucky i have some friends and some family slightly awake..

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sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Don't bring up anything related to politics, COVID, etc and don't respond if they do. Your relationship with them is more important than convincing them you're right (which won't happen).

It's frustrating but just realize that they are where they are in their belief system and you are at a different place. It's not up to you to educate them, it's up to them to educate themselves. It's really not your place to do so.

I guess I'm saying to meet them wherever they are in their mindset and find common ground.
 Quoting: YoYoM



Yes, I believe that's what my guidance is advising, too.

So now what I have to let go of is my distinct disdain for sublimating myself, for biting my tongue, for not speaking MY truth....just so the fucking boat doesn't get rocked.

At least I've got some time to accomplish THAT....and it's going to take every second.


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Same here. This is so frustrating. I've prepared a written document to try to wake them up. I hope it will do some good.
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I told my lot a long time ago that you live your life your way, and I will live my familys life my way.

Now I am the last of that lineage alive, I thought being a bit of a wild one, I would die first. but Noooo, they all died and left me alone.

I have consolance that where they be now, they know I'm here, trim healthy and doing my life my way.

I never miss out on what looks good to do or eat, I just choose moderation. if I put on some buldges, I scubba dive or snow ski or dance when vacumeing. I just serve myself smaller portions of what ever I wish to eat, and Friday and sunday are fresh is best days.

Tuesday is steak and cake days. thurs is when hubs cooks and he serves shots.

We make love in the day time too, the bed is where we sleep.

the Tell lie vision that programs is only on for a show or the weather.

we use a projector from my laptop and watch movies or old tv shows that were and still are classics. like Mash. still so good. you should have a few martinis when you watch it.


Now as for all this fear porn the media is shoving out like its the only thing, all my friends, we wont get any jab at all. no conspiracy they are now trying to call us as if its criminal, we are educated and listen to the doctors who just wont stand for the lies of the billionair club of rome.

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First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media.

Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being.

My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News."

I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?....blink

So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy.

sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly.

For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.


headshot


Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay.


I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy....scream


Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only.
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Yeah, my whole family agrees with me but my sons and my brother. Sad
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I just realized how it's going to go from here on out....fuck me.


I'm going to love my family, all the while I will believe they are ignorant....and I don't take a shine to immovable ignorance.

I ask myself, can they be moved?....maybe, when we get together. Maybe. But I'll have to be fighting for them - and with them - every step of the way....while walking a fucking thin line.


I honestly don't want this battle....when I think about it, that's my conclusion. I don't want it.


I know I will have accomplished something great for them, if they would at least listen to me....sigh but I am le tired of all of this.


I'm not sure what to do. Giving up is not my way, no matter how le tired I am.

Thinking about how the visit could go is making me sick to my stomach, thinking about how I'll have to sit there with my mouth shut, least I rock the boat.

And I know it's going to happen, because it already has during phone conversations....and I'm just unable to go off on them.

Like I said, my brother just laughs at me, and my mom screams.

I don't know what to do....shrug
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Just keep in the forefront that we are all spirits having a physical experience and that we are all entitled to our individual beliefs in this lifetime.

Don't stress out in trying to convince ANYONE that their beliefs are wrong or misguided!

Let it just be!

Or else you will lose your family and friends over this crap.
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I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.
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You need to ask them what they believe their liberal preferences and "progressive" feelings are all about and good for.

Too many people assume that liberalism somehow makes them la-de-dah and so much better than those folks concerned about honesty, common sense and integrity.
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Or else you will lose your family and friends over this crap.
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Educating your family may seem silly and unneeded confrontation however it is but one brick in the wall.

If more people are left ignorant of the facts and trusting in a horribly corrupt media and political system then losing one's family is the least of our worries.

The ignorance and acceptance means we will LOSE OUR COUNTRY!!
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First things first: I do realize nearly every single person who visits GLP knows there's a battle being raged through the media.

Secondly: I do not raise politics, religion, money up above my family and friends. I love my mother and brother very much, and I can't imagine hating on them for their beliefs....but they are a challenge. It's like coming up to a brick wall you can't "fly over"....heh, I always flew over brick walls when I dreamed or OBEd. I have broken through "glass ceilings" in my life by being persistent for my better well being.

My family is my immoveable brick wall I have to face....and it's not fucking easy. They both watch mainstream media, exclusively. Neither of them own a computer, nor know how to even use one. All their information comes from the "News."

I was trying to have a phone conversation with my mother about the election, was telling her about the elements of the steal - because she did not have a clue - and after a few minutes of talking, she stopped me and asked where I was getting my information from, and I said from a forum group I belong to that has many videos and much information about it....ffs, she screamed at me that there isn't anything on the Internet that can be believed in, and what was wrong with me?....blink

So, my brick wall is that I can't send them any videos or any links about the truth of what is happening, nor will they even listen to what I have to say because of God Media....I'm a poor little waif believing in what's said on the Internet. My brother laughs at me, my mom screams at me....and I'm just trying to help them to understand that not all is as it seems, while they've got the media's blinders etched onto their faces. Lawdy.

sigh....we're supposed to all three of us get together later this Spring or the Summer. I'm already dreading it, as much as I am excited about seeing them both. My mom is 82 years old. I will always want to get to see her one more time before she goes "home."

I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the "ignorance" though. The way things stand, we're pretty much going to have to have most of what's going on in the world of people at large tabled, least it gets ugly.

For me, it will be very hard to not be sarcastic about something, if my back does get put against their wall by the two of them. I will have to ask them, both of them devout Christians, how they could vote for the political party that believes in, has voted for and passed, legislature that allows FULL FUCKING TERM ABORTIONS....and I won't regret it.


headshot


Orange Man bad, so full term abortions okay.


I'm so fucking sick of the hypocrisy....scream


Ahem, if but only my family had access to all the information....if but only.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


It's sad, but at least you still have them. They are victims of the state just as much as anyone living under Castro or in East Germany, but at least they are not starving or locked up.

The state, through the media, has brainwashed them into reacting emotionally to any thought that is not preapproved by instilling a fear of the consequences of that belief. Nobody wants to be a domestic terrorist, but the MSM has directly stated that anyone who points out the overwhelming proof of fraud is as bad as the unabomber.

Just try to have sympathy and understanding. Most people just want to live a peaceful life, and the state is exploiting that for mind control. Very few have the courage to seek the truth honestly.

It is at the point where even the dullest citizens are starting to see through the propaganda. The lies are getting so blatantly obvious that it takes more effort to believe them than not. Once they see through the first lie, the rest follows like an avalanche.

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Same here. This is so frustrating. I've prepared a written document to try to wake them up. I hope it will do some good.
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This is a seed that was planted in my head just a few moments ago....HA! You're on the same page as my guidance....hugs

THIS is a step I can take before even our getting together....write out all the info I would tell them, without being in their face, them just having a knee jerk reaction, and it all going to hell from there.

It would certainly help if they had computers and knew how to use them, though. Heh, I've written so many A+ research papers in college, so I am prepared.

That's something I'm going to do during the visit is teach my mom how to use a computer. She just doesn't even have a clue. My bother might know a little, but he doesn't own a computer, and I don't think he wants one or cares to learn.


And to all youse guyses saying it's their business to inform themselves or not.....but they're my loved ones, and they're ignorant of what's happening.

Am I really supposed to simply think, "You reap what you sow"?


Fucking brick walls, they make me crazy in m'noggin.


I now have a plan, so at least I have a way to move forward on a positive note.....it's me preparing to fly over that brick wall.

At least that will give my brain something to chew on, rather than this three ring circus I have had going on this morning.

Heh, nothing gets me riled up in my solar plexus like my family....charlie

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So many people just refuse to accept that the pretty media people are all in it together and that they lie directly to the faces of the people viewing them.

It's called cognitive dissonance. They cannot accept the uncomfortable truth that everything they believe is a LIE.

Uncomfortable truth or a comforting lie. Take your pick, we know what most people choose.
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When faced with an insurmountable plate of food, you must take one small bite at a time if you ever intend to eat it all.

Trying to stuff it all in your mouth at once will is never good advice
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I don't think you are alone OP.
I think everyone on this forum has experienced the very same thing from our relatives and friends but you must stand firm in your truth and never deviate from it.

My technique for dealing with this problem is to always be calm and never bring these subjects up but if they are brought up I will give my take on the subject which is backed up by incontrovertible facts always in a quiet calm and reasonable way.
Then if they try to get me into an argument over it I will say something like "Well all the evidence points away from what you are saying I can email you the evidence if you want?"
Then I will change the subject or if they are being reasonable I will offer proof but always mainstream media proof they can't ignore or downplay because that is their level of understanding.

But what you must always keep in mind is that these people have been brainwashed and it will take more than facts to wake them up, be gentle with them and treat them as you would a mentally ill person and always remember these are just scared people that love you and who you love.

Don't give up we will win in the end.
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Do you want to do something about the media? Cancel your cable and turn the media off in your houseburnit
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I don't think you are alone OP.
I think everyone on this forum has experienced the very same thing from our relatives and friends but you must stand firm in your truth and never deviate from it.

My technique for dealing with this problem is to always be calm and never bring these subjects up but if they are brought up I will give my take on the subject which is backed up by incontrovertible facts always in a quiet calm and reasonable way.
Then if they try to get me into an argument over it I will say something like "Well all the evidence points away from what you are saying I can email you the evidence if you want?"
Then I will change the subject or if they are being reasonable I will offer proof but always mainstream media proof they can't ignore or downplay because that is their level of understanding.

But what you must always keep in mind is that these people have been brainwashed and it will take more than facts to wake them up, be gentle with them and treat them as you would a mentally ill person and always remember these are just scared people that love you and who you love.

Don't give up we will win in the end.

 Quoting: aningeniousname



Welp, that opened the flood gates....verysad

I know you're right, but what a horrible way to internalize my family....it's terrible.....tissue
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by myself, but not alone...

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Do you want to do something about the media? Cancel your cable and turn the media off in your houseburnit
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I haven't had cable for well over a decade.

It's them that needs to learn to turn it off. We don't live together.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


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I don't think you are alone OP.
I think everyone on this forum has experienced the very same thing from our relatives and friends but you must stand firm in your truth and never deviate from it.

My technique for dealing with this problem is to always be calm and never bring these subjects up but if they are brought up I will give my take on the subject which is backed up by incontrovertible facts always in a quiet calm and reasonable way.
Then if they try to get me into an argument over it I will say something like "Well all the evidence points away from what you are saying I can email you the evidence if you want?"
Then I will change the subject or if they are being reasonable I will offer proof but always mainstream media proof they can't ignore or downplay because that is their level of understanding.

But what you must always keep in mind is that these people have been brainwashed and it will take more than facts to wake them up, be gentle with them and treat them as you would a mentally ill person and always remember these are just scared people that love you and who you love.

Don't give up we will win in the end.

 Quoting: aningeniousname



Welp, that opened the flood gates....verysad

I know you're right, but what a horrible way to internalize my family....it's terrible.....tissue
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I'm afraid that is the situation we are in at the minute but like I said stand firm and don't let it affect you mentally that is what the "elites" want. They want us divided and at each others throats but that isn't the way.
Peaceful resistance is the way it worked for Ghandi and MLK and it will work for us now. the truth will always out.
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5 stars and bump

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Not much to say, except thanks for posting this and I think you are 100% on the mark. I guess my only words of condolence would be: to the victor go the spoils, and that the best retort is a life well lived.

I know that doesn't make it any easier, but if it means anything to you I'm on your side.

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