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Valuable Insights about human interaction and entanglement...

 
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Continued:

THE INTERROGATOR

A more aggressive control drama, one that is pervasive in modern society, is that of the Interrogator. In this manipulation strategy, one uses criticism to gain energy from others.

In the presence of an Interrogator, we always get a distinct feeling that we are being monitored. Simultaneously, we may feel as though we are being cast in the role of someone who is inadequate, or unable to handle our own lives.

We feet this way because the person we are interacting with has pulled us into a reality where he feels that most people are making huge mistakes with their lives and he must correct the situation. For instance, the Interrogator may say, "You know, you really don't dress well enough for the kind of job you have," or "I've noticed you don't really keep your house very neat." just as easily, the criticism could involve how we do our jobs, the way we talk, or a wide range of personal characteristics. It doesn't really matter. Anything will work as long as the criticism throws us off balance and makes us unsure of ourselves.

The unconscious strategy of the Interrogator is to point out something about us that gives us pause, hoping that we will buy into the criticism and adopt the Interrogator's view of the world. When this happens, we begin to look at the situation through the eyes of the Interrogator and thus give him energy. The Interrogator's aim is to become the dominant judge of other people's lives so that as soon as interaction begins, others immediately defer to his worldview, providing a steady flow of energy.

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Continued yet again:

THE INTIMIDATOR

The most aggressive control drama is the Intimidator's strategy. We can tell when we enter the energy field of such a person because we not only feel drained or uncomfortable; we feel unsafe, perhaps even in danger. The world turns ominous, threatening, out of control. The Intimidator will say and do things that suggest she might erupt in rage or violence at any moment. She may tell stories of harming others or show us the extent of her anger by breaking furniture or throwing items across the room.

The strategy of the Intimidator is to win our attention and thus our energy by creating an environment in which we feel so threatened we are totally focused on her. When someone gives off the impression that she might go out of control or do something dangerous at any minute, most of us watch this person very carefully. If we are in a conversation with such a person, we usually defer to her perspective very quickly. Of course, when we look through her eyes, trying to discern what she might do (in order to keep ourselves safe), she receives the boost of energy that she most desperately needs.

This strategy of intimidation is usually developed in a past environment of severe energy deprivation, most commonly involving relationships with other Intimidators who are dominating and abusive, and where no other strategy works to win energy back. Guilt-tripping as a Poor Me doesn't work; no one cares. Certainly, no one notices if you are playing Aloof. And any attempt at Interrogating is met with anger and hostility. The only solution is to endure the lack of energy until one is big enough to intimidate in one's own right.

The world the Intimidator sees is one of random violence and hostility. It is a world in which one is lost in supreme isolation, where everyone rejects and no one cares - which is exactly what these assumptions bring into the Intimidator's life, over and over.


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If we do not 'give' this energy away...

What becomes of it? Does it go to waste? Do we store it up for future use?

If we give it away, is that wrong?

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Sometimes giving a little bit of energy to those archetypes, they perform and reveal without knowing. Is that wrong to give them what they are looking for and instead of being enthralled, you simply observe and learn?
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The basic Archetypes of energy entanglements of an entropic nature:

The Poor Me


The most passive of the control dramas is the victim strategy, or what I have called the Poor Me. In this drama, rather than competing for energy directly, the person seeks to win deference and attention through the manipulation of sympathy.

We can always tell when we enter the energy field of a Poor Me because we are immediately drawn into a particular kind of dialogue in which we are pulled off center. Out of the blue, we begin to feel guilty for no reason, as though we are being cast into that role by the other person. The individual might say, "Well, I expected you to call yesterday, but you never did," or "I had all these bad things happen to me and you were nowhere to be found." He might even add, "All these other bad things are about to happen to me, and you probably won't be around then, either."




A slightly less passive control drama is the Aloof's.





We know we have entered the energy field of someone using this strategy when we begin a conversation and realize we can't really get a straight answer. The person we are talking to is distant, detached, cryptic in her responses. If we ask about her personal background, for instance, we get a very vague summary, such as "I traveled around a bit," with no further elaboration.

As we have this conversation, we sense that we have to ask a follow-up question, even for the simplest of inquiries. Maybe we have to say, "Well, where have you traveled?" And we receive the reply, "Many places."

Here we can clearly see the strategy of the Aloof. The person constantly creates a vague and mysterious aura around herself, forcing us to pour energy into digging to get information normally shared in a casual manner. When we do this, we are intensely focusing on the person's world, looking through her eyes, hoping to understand her background, and so we are giving her the boost of energy that she desires.


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This was a wonderfull insight
thank you
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we make errors in between
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Just want to share this here because I find it relates to a lot of what the local stream or currents of energies here seem to be reflecting...two points I found stressed were empathy and this warrior versus victim mindset and finding it’s really opened up a much deeper understanding for me. insights!

I know it’s a woo woo video but she’s cute and hey...the info I found via a deep dive on YouTube a couple nights ago by random but her words seem to keep coming thru...so I’m sharing not to “promote” this particular thing but the information rather.

Truth vs illusion and standing in confidence and not fearful of information flow etc...



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If we do not 'give' this energy away...

What becomes of it? Does it go to waste? Do we store it up for future use?

If we give it away, is that wrong?
 Quoting: TheFool


Sometimes giving a little bit of energy to those archetypes, they perform and reveal without knowing. Is that wrong to give them what they are looking for and instead of being enthralled, you simply observe and learn?
 Quoting: TheFool


In my opinion, "giving" is ok - it is the imbalance of emotional manipulation that creates the entropy.

I think comedians who make people laugh are creating energy in a synergistic way.

The idea of "holding space" for someone, and letting them express what is on their mind without judgement or defensive reactions.

The main point that is resonating with me is how humans seek other humans for their energy source.

We are depleting our circles...rather than empowering them.

It is something we really need to evolve past, imo.
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If we do not 'give' this energy away...

What becomes of it? Does it go to waste? Do we store it up for future use?

If we give it away, is that wrong?
 Quoting: TheFool


Sometimes giving a little bit of energy to those archetypes, they perform and reveal without knowing. Is that wrong to give them what they are looking for and instead of being enthralled, you simply observe and learn?
 Quoting: TheFool


In my opinion, "giving" is ok - it is the imbalance of emotional manipulation that creates the entropy.

I think comedians who make people laugh are creating energy in a synergistic way.

The idea of "holding space" for someone, and letting them express what is on their mind without judgement or defensive reactions.

The main point that is resonating with me is how humans seek other humans for their energy source.

We are depleting our circles...rather than empowering them.

It is something we really need to evolve past, imo.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita



Are you suggesting to only engage with a certain .. aura types then?

What if there are other aura types out there that wouldn't mind someone took notice of them to see if there were other paths available?

Sometime it is those with other colors that can bring with them uniqueness and creativity that a stagnant pool of similar or same colors, could not?


Is it bad that we seek each other to .. feel this energy source?
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And I am treading the line here.

I FULLY understand what you mean by not polluting your own circle or your circle of friends with very OBVIOUS WRONG energy types. I try to stay as FAR away from them as possible.

But I just wonder... are there those who are on the border and all it takes is a ... ray of light?
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And I am treading the line here.

I FULLY understand what you mean by not polluting your own circle or your circle of friends with very OBVIOUS WRONG energy types. I try to stay as FAR away from them as possible.

But I just wonder... are there those who are on the border and all it takes is a ... ray of light?
 Quoting: TheFool


The truth is, We are ALL those things....or some.

If you read the full article, it gives suggestions on how to deal energetically with each type.

Being human - you just can't avoid it.

However, choosing to be around those who are able to be aware and are willing to grow...that is the easter egg.
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Healthy energy field:

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Unhealthy control drama fields:

:Masodef:


:schizpush:


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good post. add in something about things like ego death, truth, unconditional love, loosh, archons and a little gnosis and this thread would be 5* imo
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good post. add in something about things like ego death, truth, unconditional love, loosh, archons and a little gnosis and this thread would be 5* imo
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#4 is about loosh imo -

Unconditional Love is the Remedy.

Archons? Egregores? Hungry Ghosts? (insert other names here...) are imo and observation attachments that enter through the doorways we open when we engage in these control dramas.

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Truth is relative to the Teller...
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Easter egg huh... hmmm


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So ... I am still going to fight you on this unconditional love thing .. if you don't mind.


So, it is interesting. Those that seek the path but have others (handlers) that have corrupted these souls for their own use, still have their underlying frequency in tact. There is nothing that can be done to override the base frequency.

There are layers and layers of filth on top of that pure frequency and if you play the game long enough, you can separate out the original pure signal from the layered filth on top.

You can start to 'feel' vibrations of those who seek to corrupt and bypass free will with brainwashing, to make powers available that these corrupted handlers will NEVER possess.


So .. if you only seek out the harmonious ones .. fine and dandy .. I have tried them many many times before and there is ... no challenge. If you base your search on love and seek out the pure and harmonious ones ... This should be the holy grail? Why does it feel so empty .. so boring .. so ...incorrect? These are not the bright frequencies overlayed with filth, they are simply .. underdeveloped soul travelers.

Granted, there are some that will never see the path, but you can learn A LOT from these souls .. you can learn how and what mainstream brainwashing has done to them.



For some reason .. the true harmonious ones .. that never allow themselves the challenge to 'sample' filth because their life philosophy is so thin and insubstantial, they never learn to fly ...


So, if you want to just keep to your own frequency pool .. fine and dandy ...

I have won a fiddle of gold and I am searching now for the holy grail ... the badass twisted soul that has a light of pure strength at their base ... a strength developed and honed by daring to ... soar


no?

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Can you share more about the underdeveloped soul travelers?
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So ... I am still going to fight you on this unconditional love thing .. if you don't mind.


So, it is interesting. Those that seek the path but have others (handlers) that have corrupted these souls for their own use, still have their underlying frequency in tact. There is nothing that can be done to override the base frequency.

There are layers and layers of filth on top of that pure frequency and if you play the game long enough, you can separate out the original pure signal from the layered filth on top.

You can start to 'feel' vibrations of those who seek to corrupt and bypass free will with brainwashing, to make powers available that these corrupted handlers will NEVER possess.


So .. if you only seek out the harmonious ones .. fine and dandy .. I have tried them many many times before and there is ... no challenge. If you base your search on love and seek out the pure and harmonious ones ... This should be the holy grail? Why does it feel so empty .. so boring .. so ...incorrect? These are not the bright frequencies overlayed with filth, they are simply .. underdeveloped soul travelers.

Granted, there are some that will never see the path, but you can learn A LOT from these souls .. you can learn how and what mainstream brainwashing has done to them.



For some reason .. the true harmonious ones .. that never allow themselves the challenge to 'sample' filth because their life philosophy is so thin and insubstantial, they never learn to fly ...


So, if you want to just keep to your own frequency pool .. fine and dandy ...

I have won a fiddle of gold and I am searching now for the holy grail ... the badass twisted soul that has a light of pure strength at their base ... a strength developed and honed by daring to ... soar


no?
 Quoting: TheFool


I personally believe that as we walk our individual paths, we will connect with that which is beneficial.

I have many circles of friends and acquaintances. I come here often...so that is saying a lot. lol

However, in the arena of my inner circle, it is prudent to make sure that we are not going behind the other and filling in holes the other is digging~figuratively.

The awareness I speak of is that we are mindful of our energetic interactions, and willing to learn more.

This requires a level of honesty most aren't willing to actualize.

We have to look at where we are acting in disharmony...and where we are taking energy from others.

That natural defensive script that runs when someone questions us...

Do you demonize the questioner? Or take an in depth look at the information shared?



I agree about how unconditional love is the foundation for everything, and upon that are layers or masks that once served a purpose, yet have to be removed as we mentally, emotionally and spiritually mature.
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Can you share more about the underdeveloped soul travelers?
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OK... warning and disclosure ... I had a beer ..ooo ... and am having another ... after work !!!! ...hahahaha I can say after work...ooo, kind of feels good.


Undeveloped as in ... not harmonious with this current frequency level. They might have been masters at the previous frequency but now are lost ... or they have given up too much of their virtue in previous lives.

The different levels of frequencies that we travel through, do not line up .. and are almost out of phase by 90 .. not 180 but somewhere between gliding effortlessly into the next phase and having to twist backwards to continue...


So either their masters of previous ages, need to learn the new frequencies of today's age .. in order to continue growing in a non stagnant line ... or they join the mass on the circle. Nothing wrong with the circle .. it is what makes things interesting.

Can't go in straight lines .. ALWAYS go in curves.

Like pool ... the adherence to straight will only cripple you in the end .. but if you learn how to play with curves in addition... ooooooo ... geezers hate it ... that is why it is so much fun ... to challenge those about to experience the veil ... no?


So .. underdeveloped isn't bad .. it is merely a .. point in the path .. if you stop the wave ..
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So ... I am still going to fight you on this unconditional love thing .. if you don't mind.


So, it is interesting. Those that seek the path but have others (handlers) that have corrupted these souls for their own use, still have their underlying frequency in tact. There is nothing that can be done to override the base frequency.

There are layers and layers of filth on top of that pure frequency and if you play the game long enough, you can separate out the original pure signal from the layered filth on top.

You can start to 'feel' vibrations of those who seek to corrupt and bypass free will with brainwashing, to make powers available that these corrupted handlers will NEVER possess.


So .. if you only seek out the harmonious ones .. fine and dandy .. I have tried them many many times before and there is ... no challenge. If you base your search on love and seek out the pure and harmonious ones ... This should be the holy grail? Why does it feel so empty .. so boring .. so ...incorrect? These are not the bright frequencies overlayed with filth, they are simply .. underdeveloped soul travelers.

Granted, there are some that will never see the path, but you can learn A LOT from these souls .. you can learn how and what mainstream brainwashing has done to them.



For some reason .. the true harmonious ones .. that never allow themselves the challenge to 'sample' filth because their life philosophy is so thin and insubstantial, they never learn to fly ...


So, if you want to just keep to your own frequency pool .. fine and dandy ...

I have won a fiddle of gold and I am searching now for the holy grail ... the badass twisted soul that has a light of pure strength at their base ... a strength developed and honed by daring to ... soar


no?
 Quoting: TheFool


I personally believe that as we walk our individual paths, we will connect with that which is beneficial.

I have many circles of friends and acquaintances. I come here often...so that is saying a lot. lol

However, in the arena of my inner circle, it is prudent to make sure that we are not going behind the other and filling in holes the other is digging~figuratively.

The awareness I speak of is that we are mindful of our energetic interactions, and willing to learn more.

This requires a level of honesty most aren't willing to actualize.

We have to look at where we are acting in disharmony...and where we are taking energy from others.

That natural defensive script that runs when someone questions us...

Do you demonize the questioner? Or take an in depth look at the information shared?



I agree about how unconditional love is the foundation for everything, and upon that are layers or masks that once served a purpose, yet have to be removed as we mentally, emotionally and spiritually mature.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita




I guess it is all dependent on how solid your foundation is ... no?


If you dare to soar ... oooooooo


If you play it safe ...


sadpanda



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Okay I had always heard of this book and assumed it was made up hokum that somehow had gotten wildly popular.

Now that I look at the insights I realize they are much more profound than I thought. As long as they are combined with the search for and relationship with God, I think they're spot on!

I'm intrigued.

Can't believe you posted this NOW!

Weird synchronicity, for me.

Hmm....
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Isnt that how it works ;)
I'll play the game for the games own sake.
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"When people journey deeply inward with psychedelics in a supportive setting, they may encounter a realm of spiritual light and beauty so fantastic that they are profoundly moved and positively changed.



One of the chief functions of visionary art is the validation of psychedelic souls. When people see that artists have depicted similar visionary dimensions, they breathe a little easier and realize, “Oh, they saw that too! I am not crazy after-all. We are connected or similar on the inside."






The Visionary art movement of today provides some of the best evidence for the idiosyncratic yet universal nature of the inner dimensions."

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Years ago, anthropologist Margaret Mead was asked by a student what she considered to be the first sign of civilization in a culture. The student expected Mead to talk about fishhooks or clay pots or grinding stones.


But no.

Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed.



Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal.




A broken femur that has healed is evidence that someone has taken time to stay with the one who fell, has bound up the wound, has carried the person to safety and has tended the person through recovery.



Helping someone else through difficulty is where civilization starts, Mead said."
We are at our best when we serve others. Be civilized.


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Absolutely beautiful! You are an amazing person, such a positive influence that inspires others. Keep shining friend, you are very much appreciated!
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Absolutely beautiful! You are an amazing person, such a positive influence that inspires others. Keep shining friend, you are very much appreciated!
peace
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Thank you so much!!!

I really appreciate you saying that!

"heart~felt"

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This path here - hinted at in the 'insights' is the road less traveled...
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For those that have read and understand this, so far...

We find ourselves in a flux between navigating these energy entanglements and riding the "flow."

The though I wish to share today is that the desired state is always available.

I remind myself daily.

The knowing is not the easy part - and even that is a challenge for some.

"The map is not the territory."

rose





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