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Own Firearms? DO THIS NOW and thank me later

 
Sardonic Dadaist

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03/13/2021 02:09 PM
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OP is some bigtime crazy.

like wow. dude needs some serious therapy and schooling and a big fat clue.

but hey. it will be entertaining reading about him in the news.
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I have had numerous attorneys review and verify my trust structure over the years; it is sound.

I have NFA trusts as well, which are fully compliant with the ATF and they also have been fully reviewed.

Saying that I need "therapy", well that is nothing more than the ramblings of an ignorant asshole.
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I can confirm from the long term care side if you have a 200 million dollar property you still live in under the ownership of a trust legally you own nothing and Medicaid pays your way while average joe is sucked down to 2000 dollars before state funds kick in.
If they jump the gun and take it anyway or jail you the illusion of regulation and law is over and we move to all out survival.
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03/13/2021 02:14 PM
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When they come for the guns they will laugh at your Trust
Anonymous Coward
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03/13/2021 02:15 PM
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Or just acquire Guns illegally (beyond your legally-owned sidearm), and store them in creative, secure locations throughout your most-secure, somewhat_ready for SHTF spaces.

Laws can't stop government military from taking your Guns, only you can.

- D
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03/13/2021 02:15 PM
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fuck calmobama the nation
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You think someone ballsy enough to trespass on the Divine Estate? Oh, friend, it exists. Otherwise, man’s wouldn’t.
Gnosticism. Yeshua/Isa used the tools.

Honor and dishonor are ALL that exist on the battlefield. Commercial or war zone.
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Are you a Klingon?
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When they come for the guns they will laugh at your Trust
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Agree and the second it happens Americans know it’s life or death.
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demorats gun con

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03/13/2021 02:21 PM
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Sounds flawed, if no one in the state or country is allowed to own a particular firearm, then bye-bye assigning another trustee to own a gun. If you falsely deem you as incompetent, then bye-bye ability to assign a weapon to a new trustee. Plus it creates documentation, on file or not
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03/13/2021 02:22 PM
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fixed a typo...

Sounds flawed, if no one in the state or country is allowed to own a particular firearm, then bye-bye assigning another trustee to own a gun. If they falsely deem you as incompetent, then bye-bye ability to assign a weapon to a new trustee. Plus it creates documentation, on file or not
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03/13/2021 03:37 PM
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No one cares bro. Rip humanity
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03/13/2021 03:38 PM
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Their magic words on paper mean much more than your words on paper and they will kill you to prove it.

Your only choice is to comply or fight, same as it always has been.
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03/13/2021 03:47 PM
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I am going to give you a suggestion, run with it if you like or ignore it totally. I am not providing legal advice, this is just me telling a story, so listen to my story or ignore it, your choice.


I suggest that you create an individual REVOCABLE TRUST for EACH FIREARM you own and assign ownership of a firearm into the given trust. This means each trust you create will own ONE firearm. If you have 10 firearms, you have 10 trusts. You can also assign ammo into the trust if you like.

They can even be named in numbered order:

OK Coral Firearms #1 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #2 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #3 Revocable Trust

...etc

You will need at least one Trustee (you) and a beneficiary.

Trusts cost NOTHING to form (unlike filing a LLC or corporation) and do NOT have to be part of any public record. To establish the date the trust was created so it can not be disputed later make sure your signature is NOTARIZED when you form the trust.

Now... once you do this you no longer technically own the firearm, the trust does. This means that if you wish to transfer that trust to anyone else in the future you simply add a Trustee to the trust and then you can resign from the trust. That is not a transfer or sale of the firearm.

The new trustee now has control of the trust, and the firearm, and no "transfer" has taken place.

Do this BEFORE it is signed into law, if it looks like that is going to happen. I predict it will happen.

You are welcome.
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If you have to do this its already over
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It all ended November 2020...The US is over...
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03/13/2021 04:01 PM
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OP is some bigtime crazy.

like wow. dude needs some serious therapy and schooling and a big fat clue.

but hey. it will be entertaining reading about him in the news.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74322544



I have had numerous attorneys review and verify my trust structure over the years; it is sound.

I have NFA trusts as well, which are fully compliant with the ATF and they also have been fully reviewed.

Saying that I need "therapy", well that is nothing more than the ramblings of an ignorant asshole.
 Quoting: Cryptographer



Cool story bro!

you totally found a loophole that the *trillions* of dollars worth of lawyers in nra and other gun right groups have totally missed!

we're so privledged to hear about it on our super secret internet forum because you're just so awesome and ahead of the curve.

or you are completely full of shit. hmm. gee. i wonder which it could be?

jerkit
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03/13/2021 04:54 PM
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OP, I bagged on you earlier as a different AC and I apologize for that.

This may or may not work but I think what matters here is that you gave enough of a shit to come up with something.

So many people here with their head up their ass just looking to talk shit about anything somebody tries to put out there to see if it makes a difference. I'm ashamed to have been one of them.

Thank you for putting this out there for others to consider.
captbly

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03/13/2021 05:13 PM
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Make sure to include make, model, caliber, and serial number...file it with the courts too.
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So register your guns is what your saying? No thanks
Cryptographer  (OP)

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03/13/2021 06:23 PM
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OP, I bagged on you earlier as a different AC and I apologize for that.

This may or may not work but I think what matters here is that you gave enough of a shit to come up with something.

So many people here with their head up their ass just looking to talk shit about anything somebody tries to put out there to see if it makes a difference. I'm ashamed to have been one of them.

Thank you for putting this out there for others to consider.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80138459



Thanks for the comment.

Yeah, there are people here that just bag on anything. Personally I believe half of them don't have the brain power to understand it and the other half I believe are those that have an agenda it threatens.

Regardless, I have used trusts for a long time and they work.

They are too dense to realize you could use a corporation for the same thing. Just transfer the stock and you will transfer "control" of the firearm. The difference is that the state has their hand out each year for "renewal fees" for the corporation -- a trust doesn't have any "fees" nor any annual requirements for anything. They MIGHT be able to understand a corporation a little better but the entire "trust" thing, well I don't think they even understand the basics...

so what do people do when they don't understand something? The make fun it it.....

So be it. I will be laughing because I have already done this and I know *I* will be in the best position possible.

I am almost to the point that I am about where I am just NEVER going to help people with ANYTHING because in the end they really don't appreciate it anyhow.
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Make sure to include make, model, caliber, and serial number...file it with the courts too.
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So register your guns is what your saying? No thanks
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Yeah, that comment from them was like the total OPPOSITE of what I have been trying to suggest. LOL.
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