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Is this a transfer of ownership from myself into the trust?

Does anyone know how California Law interprets this?

Thanks in advance
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Is this how criminals in the ghettos get firearms?

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no, they steal them while ignoring the law

same thing they do when they murder people with them
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Its a great thought OP.

But, do you expect to put your tongue in such a trust too?

How about your right to worship?

Your right to be free in your own home and own private property?

Inalienable.

The government can NOT legally infringe upon our rights.

It's just time to man up and walk the walk our forefathers did and fuck some commies up.
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hey OP...what do you fear exactly??? that The laws will be destroyed and they will take what is rightfully yours???
I do not understand....
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The new bill would make transfers from father to son illegal without a background check. This is a way around that.
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Also registration, I don’t own any firearms, oh those in the corner belong to the F Pelosi trust. Here is the documentation
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They want registration so they know who has what...why document it for them?
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Because the law requires people to claim and you can say I don’t own any. If they kick your door in show them a trust owns it
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I am going to give you a suggestion, run with it if you like or ignore it totally. I am not providing legal advice, this is just me telling a story, so listen to my story or ignore it, your choice.


I suggest that you create an individual REVOCABLE TRUST for EACH FIREARM you own and assign ownership of a firearm into the given trust. This means each trust you create will own ONE firearm. If you have 10 firearms, you have 10 trusts. You can also assign ammo into the trust if you like.

They can even be named in numbered order:

OK Coral Firearms #1 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #2 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #3 Revocable Trust

...etc

You will need at least one Trustee (you) and a beneficiary.

Trusts cost NOTHING to form (unlike filing a LLC or corporation) and do NOT have to be part of any public record. To establish the date the trust was created so it can not be disputed later make sure your signature is NOTARIZED when you form the trust.

Now... once you do this you no longer technically own the firearm, the trust does. This means that if you wish to transfer that trust to anyone else in the future you simply add a Trustee to the trust and then you can resign from the trust. That is not a transfer or sale of the firearm.

The new trustee now has control of the trust, and the firearm, and no "transfer" has taken place.

Do this BEFORE it is signed into law, if it looks like that is going to happen. I predict it will happen.

You are welcome.
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^^ 5 Stars
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I already have a trust in my firearms. A trust in my ammo and a trust in my aim.
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If a trust is revocable, a judge can order you to revoke any trust you created and return property to you. Your stuff can then be legally stolen. If you fail to comply, you're in contempt of court.

I'm not a lawyer, so I'll defer to those that are.
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How about we just tell the Commie assholes to Fuck Off!
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How could anyone vote down this thread? Do we have some commie gun haters in here?
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Sell? A firearm? You are suggesting that's ever going to happen?

Eh doesn't matter for me, since I lost all mine in that boating accident in February.
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What if they say no possession?
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I am going to give you a suggestion, run with it if you like or ignore it totally. I am not providing legal advice, this is just me telling a story, so listen to my story or ignore it, your choice.


I suggest that you create an individual REVOCABLE TRUST for EACH FIREARM you own and assign ownership of a firearm into the given trust. This means each trust you create will own ONE firearm. If you have 10 firearms, you have 10 trusts. You can also assign ammo into the trust if you like.

They can even be named in numbered order:

OK Coral Firearms #1 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #2 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #3 Revocable Trust

...etc

You will need at least one Trustee (you) and a beneficiary.

Trusts cost NOTHING to form (unlike filing a LLC or corporation) and do NOT have to be part of any public record. To establish the date the trust was created so it can not be disputed later make sure your signature is NOTARIZED when you form the trust.

Now... once you do this you no longer technically own the firearm, the trust does. This means that if you wish to transfer that trust to anyone else in the future you simply add a Trustee to the trust and then you can resign from the trust. That is not a transfer or sale of the firearm.

The new trustee now has control of the trust, and the firearm, and no "transfer" has taken place.

Do this BEFORE it is signed into law, if it looks like that is going to happen. I predict it will happen.

You are welcome.
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Pointless.

They can create laws that retroactively override that plan of yours.

So even if you went to all that trouble, they could (with the swipe of pen) create a law that retroactively makes what you did illegal.
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Sell? A firearm? You are suggesting that's ever going to happen?

Eh doesn't matter for me, since I lost all mine in that boating accident in February.
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We're we on the same boat?
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It won't work legally. They will include "own, possess or control" in the bill. I know you thought it was clever but it won't matter when the time comes.
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I am going to give you a suggestion, run with it if you like or ignore it totally. I am not providing legal advice, this is just me telling a story, so listen to my story or ignore it, your choice.


I suggest that you create an individual REVOCABLE TRUST for EACH FIREARM you own and assign ownership of a firearm into the given trust. This means each trust you create will own ONE firearm. If you have 10 firearms, you have 10 trusts. You can also assign ammo into the trust if you like.

They can even be named in numbered order:

OK Coral Firearms #1 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #2 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #3 Revocable Trust

...etc

You will need at least one Trustee (you) and a beneficiary.

Trusts cost NOTHING to form (unlike filing a LLC or corporation) and do NOT have to be part of any public record. To establish the date the trust was created so it can not be disputed later make sure your signature is NOTARIZED when you form the trust.

Now... once you do this you no longer technically own the firearm, the trust does. This means that if you wish to transfer that trust to anyone else in the future you simply add a Trustee to the trust and then you can resign from the trust. That is not a transfer or sale of the firearm.

The new trustee now has control of the trust, and the firearm, and no "transfer" has taken place.

Do this BEFORE it is signed into law, if it looks like that is going to happen. I predict it will happen.

You are welcome.
 Quoting: Cryptographer


It’s ALL about trust(s).
Bingo.
Trust can and will be challenged by the admin courts, i.e. probate, as frivolous if in fact the claimant has no standing/claim. The formation is critical. Weiss’ concise trustee handbook is a great starting point.
There’s still invisible ink to address. Yet, very good starting point.

Question is, WHO, is entitled to be claimant of personal or real property?

That’s the secret.
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I moved into a new apt in January and lost my guns in the move. They are not here and I dont where they are.
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Ecclesiastical governance is your protection. Otherwise, you are subject to the “lord” of this world/government.

Still more rabbit hole. But, Arturo sends a shout out.
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AMMO, DO THIS NOW! THANK ME LATER.
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now where to find a notary that you can trust? with your trusts. trust me that may be hard...to find a trust worthy stranger?
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Here's a bit of real legal advice.

[link to www.guntrustlawyer.com (secure)]
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How could anyone vote down this thread? Do we have some commie gun haters in here?
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GLP is full of leftist retards now.
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Maybe 3. Government shills working overtime under many IP's and aliases. Get those bologna sammy's, all you can eat!
When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. jimi

Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see.

I'm just a product of insufficient modality.

Humans of Earth! I have come in peace. You need not fear me. I mean you no harm. However, it may be important to know that most of you will not survive the next 24 hours. And those of you who do survive will be enslaved and experimented on. You should in no way take any of this personally — it's just business!
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now where to find a notary that you can trust? with your trusts. trust me that may be hard...to find a trust worthy stranger?
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There are different notarial offices. Know which one to use. One is de facto.
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Here's a bit of real legal advice.

[link to www.guntrustlawyer.com (secure)]
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Cannot solicit like that. Professional or not.

Can you give advice in law or just legality? Everything Hitler did was “legal.”
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League of people = League-el

These legal people are out of your league. Inculcate yourselves.
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I think a better way is for the States (like mine is doing in Missouri) to create 2nd Amendment sanctuaries, nullifying the Nazi gun control laws. Some of our counties are even going as far as putting into their laws the ability to arrest Federal officers.

Some will say that Federal supersedes State... well, we are a Republic where States rights are paramount.

Besides there is precedent for this -

Example 1: Feds still have Marijuana on the prohibition list. Yet 1/3 of the states have legalized it.

Example 2: Fed allowed without action certain cities and states to declare themselves sanctuaries for the illegals.

Either way, these Nazi gun control laws will be challenged in courts.
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Why? Constitution says it’s good as is. Merica!
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I am going to give you a suggestion, run with it if you like or ignore it totally. I am not providing legal advice, this is just me telling a story, so listen to my story or ignore it, your choice.


I suggest that you create an individual REVOCABLE TRUST for EACH FIREARM you own and assign ownership of a firearm into the given trust. This means each trust you create will own ONE firearm. If you have 10 firearms, you have 10 trusts. You can also assign ammo into the trust if you like.

They can even be named in numbered order:

OK Coral Firearms #1 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #2 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #3 Revocable Trust

...etc

You will need at least one Trustee (you) and a beneficiary.

Trusts cost NOTHING to form (unlike filing a LLC or corporation) and do NOT have to be part of any public record. To establish the date the trust was created so it can not be disputed later make sure your signature is NOTARIZED when you form the trust.

Now... once you do this you no longer technically own the firearm, the trust does. This means that if you wish to transfer that trust to anyone else in the future you simply add a Trustee to the trust and then you can resign from the trust. That is not a transfer or sale of the firearm.

The new trustee now has control of the trust, and the firearm, and no "transfer" has taken place.

Do this BEFORE it is signed into law, if it looks like that is going to happen. I predict it will happen.

You are welcome.
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If you have to do this its already over
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yep.
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It is strange that some people are getting angry after reading this thread.
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Yep.
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I am going to give you a suggestion, run with it if you like or ignore it totally. I am not providing legal advice, this is just me telling a story, so listen to my story or ignore it, your choice.


I suggest that you create an individual REVOCABLE TRUST for EACH FIREARM you own and assign ownership of a firearm into the given trust. This means each trust you create will own ONE firearm. If you have 10 firearms, you have 10 trusts. You can also assign ammo into the trust if you like.

They can even be named in numbered order:

OK Coral Firearms #1 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #2 Revocable Trust
OK Coral Firearms #3 Revocable Trust

...etc

You will need at least one Trustee (you) and a beneficiary.

Trusts cost NOTHING to form (unlike filing a LLC or corporation) and do NOT have to be part of any public record. To establish the date the trust was created so it can not be disputed later make sure your signature is NOTARIZED when you form the trust.

Now... once you do this you no longer technically own the firearm, the trust does. This means that if you wish to transfer that trust to anyone else in the future you simply add a Trustee to the trust and then you can resign from the trust. That is not a transfer or sale of the firearm.

The new trustee now has control of the trust, and the firearm, and no "transfer" has taken place.

Do this BEFORE it is signed into law, if it looks like that is going to happen. I predict it will happen.

You are welcome.
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If you have to do this its already over
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yep.
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