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SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359  United States03/09/2021 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is what it says. We just got the second job offer. She only had 2 interviews, got both jobs. Quoting: SugarSand One as a lifeguard, one at a deli/restaurant as help not working the slicer. Probably washing dishes. Good for her! Thank God she doesn't have a a family to support, pay taxes, insurance, clothe/feed children, school tuition, gas, car payments, utility bills, iPhone 25, sneakers... I could keep going, ya know? She's fucking 15. For real. First job. She WILL have a family to support ... hopefully when she graduated college. What adult with a family aspires to make minimum wage? This is how we all started out ... Nobody "aspires" to be a lifeguard or work in a deli but sometimes people have bills that need to be paid. I don't think "lack of skills" should mean that grown adults are stripped of their autonomy, being forced to rent a bedroom in a 4 or 5 BR house in order to make ends meet. When I was in HS I worked at a movie theater and most everyone I worked with were grown adults who had been working there for 10+ years. I see nothing wrong with maintaining a low skill/low pay job if that's all you need to stay afloat. That's what I mean I'm talking about high school jobs. There are no adults who want to be a summer lifeguard!!! People have HUGE chips on their shoulders from employment issues. I don't blame them. Last Edited by SugarSand on 03/09/2021 06:47 PM When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
| SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States03/09/2021 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, I feel like pulling my hair out as so many are retards now. They have no idea what a living wage is because the morons in Washington help the world defend when that is that nations own responsibility. The morons in Washington help refugees. The morons in Biden's administration have TRIPLED illegal immigration! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48551132 But our own Millennials and GenZ lack real jobs. Washington is full of clueless fools with shit for brains. What do you suppose happens if no one can afford real estate? It ruins EVERYONE. Foreigners will buy real estate and no young couples will buy starter homes. Right now things are bizarre as folks who own urban property are selling and buying less expensive rural property. Eventually that will RUIN rural real estate as locals be able to afford it. What would be the real job? If there was an abundance of jobs for millenials, what would they be? When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48551132  United Kingdom03/09/2021 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 75% of the jobs created in February were waiters and bartenders. This is insanity. We don't need minimum wage jobs, which honestly these are WORSE as their tips offset their hourly wages. We need INDUSTRIAL jobs. Lest you think someone can always get a job in healthcare, RNs today make 30% than they did in the eighties based on inflation. They can hardly get people to become RNs because of it. The same is true of physicians. They make 30% less because of reduced reimbursement due to managed care. Many physicians said fuck it as running a parctice is too expensive and became hospitalists. |
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| SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States03/09/2021 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 75% of the jobs created in February were waiters and bartenders. This is insanity. We don't need minimum wage jobs, which honestly these are WORSE as their tips offset their hourly wages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48551132 We need INDUSTRIAL jobs. Lest you think someone can always get a job in healthcare, RNs today make 30% than they did in the eighties based on inflation. They can hardly get people to become RNs because of it. The same is true of physicians. They make 30% less because of reduced reimbursement due to managed care. Many physicians said fuck it as running a parctice is too expensive and became hospitalists. If a job can be replaced by a robot when it's cost effective, it's not a job. It's a placeholder. Jobs for jobs sake is silly. I'm sure there are MANY things that would be better produced in the US but after that ... then what? Those are only so many jobs. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79498103 United States03/09/2021 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Raintown She's fucking 15. For real. First job. She WILL have a family to support ... hopefully when she graduated college. What adult with a family aspires to make minimum wage? This is how we all started out ... Nobody "aspires" to be a lifeguard or work in a deli but sometimes people have bills that need to be paid. I don't think "lack of skills" should mean that grown adults are stripped of their autonomy, being forced to rent a bedroom in a 4 or 5 BR house in order to make ends meet. When I was in HS I worked at a movie theater and most everyone I worked with were grown adults who had been working there for 10+ years. I see nothing wrong with maintaining a low skill/low pay job if that's all you need to stay afloat. That's what I mean I'm talking about high school jobs. There are no adults who want to be a summer lifeguard!!! People have HUGE chips on their shoulders from employment issues. I don't blame them. There's nothing in between. Removal of factory jobs for the masses has created a glut of "highly skilled professionals" to the extent that the majority of those degreed jobs now pay garbage salaries. Go to school for 4 years, get out with an accounting degree to get paid $17/hr with $100K in student loan debts that must be paid, outrageous required healthcare costs, outrageous rents, and compete against foreign H1Bs for US jobs while already in a saturated market. The alternative is to work in the service sector or trades there really is nothing else. The largest employment sector before the 2000s was factory work! |
| SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States03/09/2021 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $12 an hour? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74575693 what kind of shitty ass parent are you to tell her to take that without negotiating, thats pathetic slave labor. help find her a job that pass more ok age 15 i don't want to pay her more than 8 or 10 to babysit, nor does anyone else so yeah ... get a kid and then we'll talk When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48551132 United Kingdom03/09/2021 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To turn America back into a constitutional republic based on capitalism, we end globalism and cut all free trade, cut all federalism nonsense, cut all internation defense and foreign aid, cut all immigration and admittance of refugees, become isolationist and ban robotics. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79498103 United States03/09/2021 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 75% of the jobs created in February were waiters and bartenders. This is insanity. We don't need minimum wage jobs, which honestly these are WORSE as their tips offset their hourly wages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48551132 We need INDUSTRIAL jobs. Lest you think someone can always get a job in healthcare, RNs today make 30% than they did in the eighties based on inflation. They can hardly get people to become RNs because of it. The same is true of physicians. They make 30% less because of reduced reimbursement due to managed care. Many physicians said fuck it as running a parctice is too expensive and became hospitalists. If a job can be replaced by a robot when it's cost effective, it's not a job. It's a placeholder. Jobs for jobs sake is silly. I'm sure there are MANY things that would be better produced in the US but after that ... then what? Those are only so many jobs. Industrial automation is a red herring. Things have been automated and mechanized since the dawn of time. The problem is that a huge portion of US jobs have been sent overseas, leaving a large pool of unemployed to compete for whatever is left. |
| SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States03/09/2021 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SugarSand Nobody "aspires" to be a lifeguard or work in a deli but sometimes people have bills that need to be paid. I don't think "lack of skills" should mean that grown adults are stripped of their autonomy, being forced to rent a bedroom in a 4 or 5 BR house in order to make ends meet. When I was in HS I worked at a movie theater and most everyone I worked with were grown adults who had been working there for 10+ years. I see nothing wrong with maintaining a low skill/low pay job if that's all you need to stay afloat. That's what I mean I'm talking about high school jobs. There are no adults who want to be a summer lifeguard!!! People have HUGE chips on their shoulders from employment issues. I don't blame them. There's nothing in between. Removal of factory jobs for the masses has created a glut of "highly skilled professionals" to the extent that the majority of those degreed jobs now pay garbage salaries. Go to school for 4 years, get out with an accounting degree to get paid $17/hr with $100K in student loan debts that must be paid, outrageous required healthcare costs, outrageous rents, and compete against foreign H1Bs for US jobs while already in a saturated market. The alternative is to work in the service sector or trades there really is nothing else. The largest employment sector before the 2000s was factory work! my father died in a factory my grandfathers died about 6-10 months after stopping factory there are so many factory jobs ... i just don't want my kids to die at work like their grandpas when i was in college, my dad's union had a program where we could work there and get paid union wages i did it three summers the whole idea of the program was to keep us in college everyone uses accounting and english ... the fact of the matter is anyone who wants to wake up and work a 9-5 can get a corporate job (not the best, but a job) for MUCH LESS RISK than their factory counterparts ... with any degree that's a fact but we can talk about it more When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48551132 United Kingdom03/09/2021 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It literally makes no sense to bellyache about take global warming when the largest polluters in the world are the Chicoms and when they also ship using ocean cargo freight. Each one creates as much pollution as MILLIONS of vehicles. It is a staggering amount. Chicoms have no fresh water save for the Three Gorges Dam. The USA is ruining Millennials and GenZ by having them work as clerks and baristas when they should be working middle class job in INDUSTRY. We need DOMESTIC INDUSTRY. |
| SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States03/09/2021 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 75% of the jobs created in February were waiters and bartenders. This is insanity. We don't need minimum wage jobs, which honestly these are WORSE as their tips offset their hourly wages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48551132 We need INDUSTRIAL jobs. Lest you think someone can always get a job in healthcare, RNs today make 30% than they did in the eighties based on inflation. They can hardly get people to become RNs because of it. The same is true of physicians. They make 30% less because of reduced reimbursement due to managed care. Many physicians said fuck it as running a parctice is too expensive and became hospitalists. If a job can be replaced by a robot when it's cost effective, it's not a job. It's a placeholder. Jobs for jobs sake is silly. I'm sure there are MANY things that would be better produced in the US but after that ... then what? Those are only so many jobs. Industrial automation is a red herring. Things have been automated and mechanized since the dawn of time. The problem is that a huge portion of US jobs have been sent overseas, leaving a large pool of unemployed to compete for whatever is left. No - they were automated. Take my job for example. I'm a software developer. For YEARS we heard we would be "offshored" ... bullshit. Same with factory jobs. They didn't replace guys like my dad with little Vietnamese kids! Those kids were already working in clothing! They replaced guys like my dad with robots. People like me did it. I've made a career out of "automating" and "streaming" "business processes". Andrew Yang was and is right. Last Edited by SugarSand on 03/09/2021 07:05 PM When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
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| SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States03/09/2021 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who will buy the products made by industrial robots if they are working minimum wage service jobs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48551132 People are blithering idiots helping these monsterous globalists. robots dont get a wage and yes, people are idiots ... so that's who When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
| SugarSand
(OP) User ID: 77504359 United States03/09/2021 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 75% of the jobs created in February were waiters and bartenders. This is insanity. We don't need minimum wage jobs, which honestly these are WORSE as their tips offset their hourly wages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48551132 We need INDUSTRIAL jobs. Lest you think someone can always get a job in healthcare, RNs today make 30% than they did in the eighties based on inflation. They can hardly get people to become RNs because of it. The same is true of physicians. They make 30% less because of reduced reimbursement due to managed care. Many physicians said fuck it as running a parctice is too expensive and became hospitalists. If a job can be replaced by a robot when it's cost effective, it's not a job. It's a placeholder. Jobs for jobs sake is silly. I'm sure there are MANY things that would be better produced in the US but after that ... then what? Those are only so many jobs. Industrial automation is a red herring. Things have been automated and mechanized since the dawn of time. The problem is that a huge portion of US jobs have been sent overseas, leaving a large pool of unemployed to compete for whatever is left. "jobs" look at what you typed who the hell wants a job that a 6 year old chinese kid or a robot can do??? When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48551132 United Kingdom03/09/2021 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You asslickers of globalists make me want to puke. The globalists are richer than Roman senators but you excuse that. Meanwhile your own kids and grandkids are falling into poverty. Once they would have been home owners and now they are barely able to pay rent. Soon, it will take THREE INCOMES to pay rent. Congratulations. Licking the ass of globalists and Chicoms is destroying the American Republic. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79498103 United States03/09/2021 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79498103 That's what I mean I'm talking about high school jobs. There are no adults who want to be a summer lifeguard!!! People have HUGE chips on their shoulders from employment issues. I don't blame them. There's nothing in between. Removal of factory jobs for the masses has created a glut of "highly skilled professionals" to the extent that the majority of those degreed jobs now pay garbage salaries. Go to school for 4 years, get out with an accounting degree to get paid $17/hr with $100K in student loan debts that must be paid, outrageous required healthcare costs, outrageous rents, and compete against foreign H1Bs for US jobs while already in a saturated market. The alternative is to work in the service sector or trades there really is nothing else. The largest employment sector before the 2000s was factory work! my father died in a factory my grandfathers died about 6-10 months after stopping factory there are so many factory jobs ... i just don't want my kids to die at work like their grandpas when i was in college, my dad's union had a program where we could work there and get paid union wages i did it three summers the whole idea of the program was to keep us in college everyone uses accounting and english ... the fact of the matter is anyone who wants to wake up and work a 9-5 can get a corporate job (not the best, but a job) for MUCH LESS RISK than their factory counterparts ... with any degree that's a fact but we can talk about it more Unfortunately, I think you're living in 1980. Even half the entry level corporate desk monkey jobs now want masters degrees just to get an interview. The fact is, there are not enough "degreed professional" jobs to go around and there never have been. Most people worked menial task labor jobs their entire lives until about 20 years ago. Every single professional position out there has 500 qualified applicants. The only reason most of these people have degrees to begin with is they were pushed to do so for lack of industrial jobs. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79498103 United States03/09/2021 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 75% of the jobs created in February were waiters and bartenders. This is insanity. We don't need minimum wage jobs, which honestly these are WORSE as their tips offset their hourly wages. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48551132 We need INDUSTRIAL jobs. Lest you think someone can always get a job in healthcare, RNs today make 30% than they did in the eighties based on inflation. They can hardly get people to become RNs because of it. The same is true of physicians. They make 30% less because of reduced reimbursement due to managed care. Many physicians said fuck it as running a parctice is too expensive and became hospitalists. If a job can be replaced by a robot when it's cost effective, it's not a job. It's a placeholder. Jobs for jobs sake is silly. I'm sure there are MANY things that would be better produced in the US but after that ... then what? Those are only so many jobs. Industrial automation is a red herring. Things have been automated and mechanized since the dawn of time. The problem is that a huge portion of US jobs have been sent overseas, leaving a large pool of unemployed to compete for whatever is left. No - they were automated. Take my job for example. I'm a software developer. For YEARS we heard we would be "offshored" ... bullshit. Same with factory jobs. They didn't replace guys like my dad with little Vietnamese kids! Those kids were already working in clothing! They replaced guys like my dad with robots. People like me did it. I've made a career out of "automating" and "streaming" "business processes". Andrew Yang was and is right. Well, you sound just like a member of that forbidden generation. Made sure it benefited you, then pulled up the ladder behind you so nobody else can get on the ship. He who dies with the most toys wins, amirite? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48551132 United Kingdom03/09/2021 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The primary reason American were able to buy single family dwellings was a large middle class of high school graduates working in industry. That lasted from 1946-1995, started declining due to globalism, and less and less new single family dwellings occurred. If you go further back, about 1973, many women entered the workforce in America. This double the labor pool and so that also stiffled wages as twice as many people were competing. |
