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how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )

 
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03/04/2021 02:36 PM
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the converters are not 100 each

in my state you can't even get the old converters anymore they have to be california emissions

also there are 4 of them, not 2

all that aside why would i do all that work for a very very minor exhaust leak that is compensated for by resetting the fuel trims when i drive?

not to mention the one broken exhaust bolt inside the cylinder head that needs to be drilled/removed

it's a design flaw on these expeditions IMO because they use 4 converters instead of the standard 2, every one of these expeditions that are this same design have exhaust bolts broken or stripped in the cylinder head
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What year model is it? Mine is a 2002 and it only has 2 converters. I hole you're not mistaking the two mufflers after the split as converters.
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it's a 2000

trust me there are 4 converters because everywhere i look there's a listing for front/passanger,rear/passenger etc

there's 4 converters, a resonator after the split and then the muffler

like i said every expedition with this design has broken/stripped exhaust bolts in the cylinder head

when I do fix it, the cylinder heads are coming off for machining

i figure around 300k i might look into this but the engine runs smooth and trans shifts smooth

i bought it from an old man who had every service record
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Well I don't trust you because you've been wrong about at least 30% of your corrections. Regardless if it has 2 or 4 converters, you can pick up 2 walker converters on amazon for 100$ each. I just did it for two vehicles recently. You can get two converters and convert your 4 converter system to a two converter system. You just have to make sure the o2 bungs are approximately the same distance from your new converters as the were the front of the front converters and the back of the rear converters. What did you do? Get the Eddie Bauer version? If so, bad move.
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again you are ignoring the fact that there are broken exhaust bolts inside the cylinder heads

to do it right the cylinder heads need to come off

what you are suggesting is a half assed fix

also people have reported replacing their manifolds gaskets and pulling the broken bolts to replace them, only to have their manifolds crack less than a year later

there is a design flaw that involves too much backpressure that needs to be addressed
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03/04/2021 02:38 PM
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Idiot, dunbest shit i read all day. The whole job of the adaptive strategy is to make it run more effiecntly. if your getting 7mpg is because something is wrong with it. Get it fixed, oh thats right you dont trust auto mechanics im sure. Keep resetting the strategy every day thats easier.
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03/04/2021 02:43 PM
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Idiot, dunbest shit i read all day. The whole job of the adaptive strategy is to make it run more effiecntly. if your getting 7mpg is because something is wrong with it. Get it fixed, oh thats right you dont trust auto mechanics im sure. Keep resetting the strategy every day thats easier.
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i know exactly what is involved in fixing it

some people are just jealous i outsmarted the car
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03/04/2021 02:52 PM
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Idiot, dunbest shit i read all day. The whole job of the adaptive strategy is to make it run more effiecntly. if your getting 7mpg is because something is wrong with it. Get it fixed, oh thats right you dont trust auto mechanics im sure. Keep resetting the strategy every day thats easier.
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i know exactly what is involved in fixing it

some people are just jealous i outsmarted the car
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I was resetting my light everyday. One day I forgot to bring the obd tester. I discovered it got better mpg with the check engine light on. Now I just let it be.
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
Idiot, dunbest shit i read all day. The whole job of the adaptive strategy is to make it run more effiecntly. if your getting 7mpg is because something is wrong with it. Get it fixed, oh thats right you dont trust auto mechanics im sure. Keep resetting the strategy every day thats easier.
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i know exactly what is involved in fixing it

some people are just jealous i outsmarted the car
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79094956


I was resetting my light everyday. One day I forgot to bring the obd tester. I discovered it got better mpg with the check engine light on. Now I just let it be.
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cool that's your particular situation

mine is different
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03/04/2021 02:56 PM
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
Idiot, dunbest shit i read all day. The whole job of the adaptive strategy is to make it run more effiecntly. if your getting 7mpg is because something is wrong with it. Get it fixed, oh thats right you dont trust auto mechanics im sure. Keep resetting the strategy every day thats easier.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76109850


i know exactly what is involved in fixing it

some people are just jealous i outsmarted the car
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79094956


I was resetting my light everyday. One day I forgot to bring the obd tester. I discovered it got better mpg with the check engine light on. Now I just let it be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79724041


cool that's your particular situation

mine is different
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Why do you come here asking for advice then argue with everyone?
Take you old pos and shove it up your ass.
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03/04/2021 02:59 PM
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
I have a 2002 Chevy Avalanche 2500 in this type they put a 8.1 Ltr engine, I do not think anything will help this monster...
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i know exactly what is involved in fixing it

some people are just jealous i outsmarted the car
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79094956


I was resetting my light everyday. One day I forgot to bring the obd tester. I discovered it got better mpg with the check engine light on. Now I just let it be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79724041


cool that's your particular situation

mine is different
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79094956

Why do you come here asking for advice then argue with everyone?
Take you old pos and shove it up your ass.
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i'm not asking for advice i'm giving it
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I have a 2002 Chevy Avalanche 2500 in this type they put a 8.1 Ltr engine, I do not think anything will help this monster...
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what's your average mpg calculated at the pump?

not whatever the dash says
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03/04/2021 03:15 PM
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
I've cleaned a clogged cat converter with citric+oxalic acid solution and work like new.
The science paper is online, also in YouTube are tutorials.
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03/04/2021 03:17 PM
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
Make sure your cat isn't plugged. Fix the exhaust leak. If you still have problems afterwards, replace the O2 sensors.
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03/04/2021 03:20 PM
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
I've cleaned a clogged cat converter with citric+oxalic acid solution and work like new.
The science paper is online, also in YouTube are tutorials.
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interesting spock
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03/04/2021 03:26 PM
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
I've cleaned a clogged cat converter with citric+oxalic acid solution and work like new.
The science paper is online, also in YouTube are tutorials.
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interesting spock
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"Reactivation of an Aged Commercial
Three-Way Catalyst by Oxalic and
Citric Acid Washing"

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03/04/2021 03:30 PM
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
It appears as though the big mistake was buying an old ford
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03/04/2021 03:32 PM
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Re: how i nearly doubled my gas mileage ( older vehicle )
Edelbrock Carb can help a lot too if you don't already have one.
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03/04/2021 03:34 PM

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Yeah, you can fiddle-fuck with it every day, or fix it properly so that you don't have to Afro-engineer it...
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Continually over fueling will burn and melt the converter substrate, which you likely already have damage...When they start restricting the exhaust flow, you then have compounded problems...
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What year model is it? Mine is a 2002 and it only has 2 converters. I hole you're not mistaking the two mufflers after the split as converters.
 Quoting: ZOOM OUT


it's a 2000

trust me there are 4 converters because everywhere i look there's a listing for front/passanger,rear/passenger etc

there's 4 converters, a resonator after the split and then the muffler

like i said every expedition with this design has broken/stripped exhaust bolts in the cylinder head

when I do fix it, the cylinder heads are coming off for machining

i figure around 300k i might look into this but the engine runs smooth and trans shifts smooth

i bought it from an old man who had every service record
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79094956


Well I don't trust you because you've been wrong about at least 30% of your corrections. Regardless if it has 2 or 4 converters, you can pick up 2 walker converters on amazon for 100$ each. I just did it for two vehicles recently. You can get two converters and convert your 4 converter system to a two converter system. You just have to make sure the o2 bungs are approximately the same distance from your new converters as the were the front of the front converters and the back of the rear converters. What did you do? Get the Eddie Bauer version? If so, bad move.
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why?

it has a 5.4 2v with no cam phasers and a 4r100 transmission

it's great
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Whenever I shop for parts for my truck I always look at the EB parts as well just to remind myself how glad I am that I didn't get the EB. Some are not even available any more and most are twice as expensive. I got the XLT all-wheel drive 5.4 and it's a beast. The original encoder motor still works like new and there is actually a manual-shift kit available for the transfer case. I hope it isn't as much of a chore for you as it has been for many people I know.
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What year model is it? Mine is a 2002 and it only has 2 converters. I hole you're not mistaking the two mufflers after the split as converters.
 Quoting: ZOOM OUT


it's a 2000

trust me there are 4 converters because everywhere i look there's a listing for front/passanger,rear/passenger etc

there's 4 converters, a resonator after the split and then the muffler

like i said every expedition with this design has broken/stripped exhaust bolts in the cylinder head

when I do fix it, the cylinder heads are coming off for machining

i figure around 300k i might look into this but the engine runs smooth and trans shifts smooth

i bought it from an old man who had every service record
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79094956


Well I don't trust you because you've been wrong about at least 30% of your corrections. Regardless if it has 2 or 4 converters, you can pick up 2 walker converters on amazon for 100$ each. I just did it for two vehicles recently. You can get two converters and convert your 4 converter system to a two converter system. You just have to make sure the o2 bungs are approximately the same distance from your new converters as the were the front of the front converters and the back of the rear converters. What did you do? Get the Eddie Bauer version? If so, bad move.
 Quoting: ZOOM OUT


again you are ignoring the fact that there are broken exhaust bolts inside the cylinder heads

to do it right the cylinder heads need to come off

what you are suggesting is a half assed fix

also people have reported replacing their manifolds gaskets and pulling the broken bolts to replace them, only to have their manifolds crack less than a year later

there is a design flaw that involves too much backpressure that needs to be addressed
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If you were worth your salt as a mechanic you could get those exhaust bolts out without removing the head. Sounds like you are in the habit of making things much more complicated for yourself than they need to be.
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