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Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof

 
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Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass. While the slavery koolaid is given to demonize Southern states, the real reason the war was fought, tariff's and taxes. And Lincoln used the military to force southern states back into the union.

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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

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Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

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 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
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 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


Look up the Corwin ammendment. Unfettered slavery was offered to the south to end the conflict. They refused. It wasn't the hill they were dying on.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
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[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


Look up the Corwin ammendment. Unfettered slavery was offered to the south to end the conflict. They refused. It wasn't the hill they were dying on.
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Look up the Cornerstone Speech given by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
[link to www.uslawshield.com (secure)]

[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


hesright
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
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 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


The kids just believe what they are told, soy, fluoride and tv
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
[link to www.uslawshield.com (secure)]

[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


Nice try.

From the horse’s mouth — Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens’ Cornerstone Speech. Read it.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
[link to www.uslawshield.com (secure)]

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 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


The kids just believe what they are told, soy, fluoride and tv
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I suppose you think Trump “won” the 2020 election, too. Keep denying reality as life passes you by.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
[link to www.uslawshield.com (secure)]

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 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


Wasn’t it kind of the same thing though? I thought the north really didn’t care about black people but the south heavily relied on slaves so by making the fight about slavery it was intended to cripple the south’s economy.

I am sure there were a lot of reasons that all came together in basically the worst event ever in the USA. So many people died it’s crazy.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
[link to www.uslawshield.com (secure)]

[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


The kids just believe what they are told, soy, fluoride and tv
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Why attack soy when flax has far more estrogen? Are you a flax fairy?
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Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


The kids just believe what they are told, soy, fluoride and tv
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I suppose you think Trump “won” the 2020 election, too. Keep denying reality as life passes you by.
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Suits are of no consequence to me. I live and then I die. Everything in the middle is a tribute to my creator. Doesn't matter who is president in the slightest, I do what I want.
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Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


The kids just believe what they are told, soy, fluoride and tv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79440185


Why attack soy when flax has far more estrogen? Are you a flax fairy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35735444


Flax isn't weaponized as a main ingredient in everything. Flax also has health benefits.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
I remember reading something about the cotton gin being invented and machinery imports from europe replacing slavery in the south obsolete anyway.

Had something to do with tariffs hurting the economy the south.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
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 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


Wasn’t it kind of the same thing though? I thought the north really didn’t care about black people but the south heavily relied on slaves so by making the fight about slavery it was intended to cripple the south’s economy.

I am sure there were a lot of reasons that all came together in basically the worst event ever in the USA. So many people died it’s crazy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35735444


There are still many books out there written by slaves of the south. They tell a very different tale. Many were treated very decent and kind. Many slaves even fought for the south to defend her. Why would they put life and limb on line for a conflict. Many slaves were treated as family and friends all working on a farm together. As anywhere abuses did happen, and bad actors were used to create a narrative to suit a cause. This narrative is still defended to modern times.
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Re: Midwestern states are the new South, this was how the last civil war started. with proof
The last civil war started by disagreements between Washington and states. The fist civil war was not just about slavery, it was about secession and Washington did not honor those states rights, hence the disagreements.

Now Midwest states are posturing as southern states once did. While some HB are on the books other bills look to pass.

[link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)]

[link to www.kansascity.com (secure)]
[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
[link to www.uslawshield.com (secure)]

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 Quoting: NukemHell


Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


Look up the Corwin ammendment. Unfettered slavery was offered to the south to end the conflict. They refused. It wasn't the hill they were dying on.
 Quoting: Ganjaguy


Look up the Cornerstone Speech given by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79918840


So, the south is offered the Corwin ammendment, chooses to refuse the offer, and 20 days later one guy oarates his opinions and that's your smoking gun? The words of one over the actions of several? I'm not arguing what some may have believed, but a refusal to accept unbridled slavery in perpetuity seems to be a clear declaration of values.
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Ya, but what was the secession ISSUE? Slavery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79956180


You would be incorrect sir, you drank the slavery koolaid. The main reason behind secession was Tarrifs/ Tax and a balance in power to the North. Slavery was yet a tool used to demonize the South. As historians have time and time again shown documentation from the South, when people voted to succeed from the Union.

[link to civilwarcause.com]
 Quoting: NukemHell


Wasn’t it kind of the same thing though? I thought the north really didn’t care about black people but the south heavily relied on slaves so by making the fight about slavery it was intended to cripple the south’s economy.

I am sure there were a lot of reasons that all came together in basically the worst event ever in the USA. So many people died it’s crazy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35735444


There are still many books out there written by slaves of the south. They tell a very different tale. Many were treated very decent and kind. Many slaves even fought for the south to defend her. Why would they put life and limb on line for a conflict. Many slaves were treated as family and friends all working on a farm together. As anywhere abuses did happen, and bad actors were used to create a narrative to suit a cause. This narrative is still defended to modern times.
 Quoting: NukemHell


When did I mention anything about how slaves were treated?

Personally, I don’t care if slaves were treated well or not. Slavery is not a good thing. Just because some people were completely helpless and scared and chose to remain on the plantation doesn’t make slavery a good thing.

I also don’t believe all slave owners were bad. I’m sure some treated their slaves ok and they were just following the cultural norm.

I still would never support slavery though. I like freedom.





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