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Loyalty....

 
Anonymous Coward
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reciprocal balanced emotional mind does not ask this question
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80115779


Correct...reciprocity based in honor and integrity of all parties would not bring this up...as it would not come into question.

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Is it possible to have loyalty without honor ?
 Quoting: crowfluence


I do believe some people are loyal to absolute monsters.

So yes.

Sadly enough.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


What are the characteristics of a monster?
 Quoting: Can't get right 77017911


Superficially charming; “silver tongued”
Self-absorbed and egocentric
Easily bored, in need of constant stimulation
Habitual liar
Manipulative
Shows no remorse; rationalizes wrongdoings, says people deserve it
Shallow emotions
Lacks empathy
Exploits the goodwill of others especially financially
Sexually promiscuous
Impulsive
Behaves recklessly
Accepts no responsibility for actions
Had behavior problems as a child
Lacks inhibitions
Has no long term goals
Has many short term relationships
No respect for authority, including the law
Thinks they are never wrong
May be highly intelligent, but has no conscience




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 Quoting: Bodhi Sita




Hi Monster
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Re: Loyalty....
missplaced loyalty

can be viewed only as sacrifice to the heart of the self


destroying the heart is what monsters do
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80115779


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Is it possible to have loyalty without honor ?
 Quoting: crowfluence


I do believe some people are loyal to absolute monsters.

So yes.

Sadly enough.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


What are the characteristics of a monster?
 Quoting: Can't get right 77017911


Superficially charming; “silver tongued”
Self-absorbed and egocentric
Easily bored, in need of constant stimulation
Habitual liar
Manipulative
Shows no remorse; rationalizes wrongdoings, says people deserve it
Shallow emotions
Lacks empathy
Exploits the goodwill of others especially financially
Sexually promiscuous
Impulsive
Behaves recklessly
Accepts no responsibility for actions
Had behavior problems as a child
Lacks inhibitions
Has no long term goals
Has many short term relationships
No respect for authority, including the law
Thinks they are never wrong
May be highly intelligent, but has no conscience




[link to www.personalgrowthcounseling.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


That's the one I was looking thanks, guess I better read up on job.
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03/06/2021 04:13 PM
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03/06/2021 04:17 PM
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 Quoting: KARMA 78105388


not me
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 Quoting: KARMA 78105388


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03/07/2021 05:38 AM

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Re: Loyalty....
It is interesting ... loyalty.

Wouldn't another need to be .. loyal to themselves first.


So you have posters that ask weird questions. Questions that don't appear to be related, but are, at their core.

You receive answers to those questions ... the answers received don't convey .. images .. the soul of someone who believes in what they type.

So you go down other avenues to see how their typed out words match with the vibrations (most of the time, unknown to the typer) and you discover where the typer is hiding from ... themselves ..

.. it is an interesting game .. more so with those that don't lash out in anger or .. disharmony .. that are truly puzzled because their 'heart' .. 'subconscious' is saying ... this info rings with harmony for some reason .. but they don't understand where the harmony is coming from ...

.. because .. they hide from themselves ... no??


and one of the GREATEST HIDING spots there is in this reality???

Unbalanced love and forgiveness .. with no teeth


the greatest destroyer there is


a common feature in the downfall of matriarchal societies.

where the wise female is lauded for their wisdom .. as their neighbors take upon themselves all resource allocations to protect these naive souls .. standing from afar keeping the barbarians from this matriarchal society so they can ... observe what happens within this petri dish ...

If they deem the experiment failed .. they simply remove their patriarchal protection and allow the wolves (nature) to teach the ultimate lesson ... no?
***All in my opinion of course***
TheFool
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03/07/2021 05:46 AM

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by matriarchal and patriarchal, I'm not referring to sex .. I am referring to Ideology ..

take a male dominated Matriarchal society .. the one in China now finally fighting for their independent survival ... no?


maybe they would have been better off ... balancing their love and compassion .. the pure spiritual path .. with a little bit of inclusion of the sword of nobility and honor ... no?


what good does it do to allow others to so easily enslave you through your own ideology ???

Then begging the world for help ... as you refuse to re evaluate your ... ideals ???

no?
***All in my opinion of course***
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03/07/2021 05:51 AM
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It is interesting ... loyalty.

Wouldn't another need to be .. loyal to themselves first.


So you have posters that ask weird questions. Questions that don't appear to be related, but are, at their core.

You receive answers to those questions ... the answers received don't convey .. images .. the soul of someone who believes in what they type.

So you go down other avenues to see how their typed out words match with the vibrations (most of the time, unknown to the typer) and you discover where the typer is hiding from ... themselves ..

.. it is an interesting game .. more so with those that don't lash out in anger or .. disharmony .. that are truly puzzled because their 'heart' .. 'subconscious' is saying ... this info rings with harmony for some reason .. but they don't understand where the harmony is coming from ...

.. because .. they hide from themselves ... no??


and one of the GREATEST HIDING spots there is in this reality???

Unbalanced love and forgiveness .. with no teeth


the greatest destroyer there is


a common feature in the downfall of matriarchal societies.

where the wise female is lauded for their wisdom .. as their neighbors take upon themselves all resource allocations to protect these naive souls .. standing from afar keeping the barbarians from this matriarchal society so they can ... observe what happens within this petri dish ...

If they deem the experiment failed .. they simply remove their patriarchal protection and allow the wolves (nature) to teach the ultimate lesson ... no?
 Quoting: TheFool


There is no other lesson than that the 'experiment failed.' The controls of the experiment are mostly checks against those life experiences which allow people to mature--hence the 'matriarchal' of the society, as people are always clinging to a mommy figure. Another way to view it is that if people stop being infantilized, then the people who had promised to get rid of the wolves have been holding them in store the entire time to ensure that their rule, however unjust, however little it prepared for that 'real world' into which its subjects would never be allowed except as constituting a violent threat, would always need to exist.

The loyal person is predictably loyal to something which feels no need to be predictable itself. So what is one loyal to?
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03/07/2021 12:00 PM
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Re: Loyalty....
hmmm.... Matriarchal society in Malta - success.


Why?

hmmm.
Anonymous Coward
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03/07/2021 12:03 PM
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Re: Loyalty....
And we come full circle to what is one loyal to?

I have to admit, it isn't so black and white.

My ex husband thought he was loyal because he didn't actually have sex with the strippers.

lol

however, I am that word which we can't agree on, and I feel/see thoughts of those I love.

SO - shades of gray and rationalizations galore.
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What does it mean to you?
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita





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