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if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?

 
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women shall be saved by child birth! does this mean believing women must have children or they wont be saved? chuckle
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
Belief does not matter just be lief.

Lief means something like kind or sweet in Dutch.
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?

They ain’t! Turn or burn
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WOMEN WHO ARE LIKE EVE DECEIVED BY THE SERPENT INTO UNBERLIEF OF THE TRUTH
SHALL BE SAVED BY GIVING BIRTH TO THE LEASTS! BABIES CLOTHING THEM FEEDING THEM TAKING CARE OF THEM ETC

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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
Believe in your Self and you won't need to be saved.
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
women shall be saved by child birth! does this mean believing women must have children or they wont be saved? chuckle
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it is salvation by JESUS WORD WHICH IS THE JUDGE . ETERNALLY BLESSED FOR DOING GOOD TO THE LEAST A LITTLE CHILD
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
women shall be saved by child birth! does this mean believing women must have children or they wont be saved? chuckle
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it is salvation by JESUS WORD WHICH IS THE JUDGE . ETERNALLY BLESSED FOR DOING GOOD TO THE LEAST A LITTLE CHILD
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and this is how the promise shall be fullfilled that cannot fail , that GOD gave to Abraham , that through Abraham & his seed ( Jesus Christ who's word is the judge of those who reject him & his word ) that , ALL the families of the earth & ALL the nations SHALL BE BLESSED!!!!!!!!!
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Why do unbelievers reject Christ?

It's their own fault
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and there is more! unbelievers who do good to ther own babies /children HAVE DONE THE WILL OF JESUS' FATHER FOR HE BLESSES THEM FOR IT ETERNALLY AND SO BY JESUS OWN DEFINITION ARE HIS MOTHER, BROTHER, SISTER!!!!!
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
Just so happens I just read mark.
There is only 1 way, that is thru Jesus

Mark 16,15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

You must be baptise(born again by water. born of spirit)
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
I be live in myself my experience.
I don't believe in God's of man that believe in human trafficking
Nor do I bl Eve this sight people
Put the name Holy Spirit and talk
Derogatory things about mother.

See ya GLP
For shocking me into reality your version of god.

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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
Matthew 25

"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

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Matthew 25

"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
 Quoting: luke the duke



John 5
"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice

and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to experience eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to experience judgment.
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
shall ALL the families of the earth be blessed through Abraham and his seed?
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No.

The vast majority of mankind will be horrifically tortured forever and ever without mercy for the sin of being born..

Cause his mercy endures forever and his love never fails...

The cognitive dissonance sends most people CRAZY.
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
Matthew 25

"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
 Quoting: luke the duke



John 5
"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice

and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to experience eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to experience judgment.
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the Terrestrial glory, like purgatory, was meant to be only a temporary subset of spirit heaven where EVERYONE who “died without law” and thus “didn’t obtain a crown” in Gods kingdom could eventually be “raised to dwell with God” before the final judgement and resurrection, thus having “part in the first resurrection”.[3] This, opposed to those evil-loving beings who repeatedly transgress the law given to them, causing them to be without civility and “without light and knowledge” and thus “cast down to hell”,
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anybody know ? using scripture only as proof!
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If all were saved then, there would be no need for Christ to pay the penalty ( eternal death) for the sins of His elect, and no need for judgment day in which we are currently in.



Know where we are in God's timetable...

The world Is under the wrath of God,we are in judgment day and have been for nearly a decade. We know this with certainty through the biblical timeline of history that God has revealed in His word in our day. The timeline reveals creation began in 11013bc, the flood 4990bc, Christ birth April 1st 7bc ( known exact date, jubilee year) , Christ death and ressurection 33ad ( just to name a few). Not only has God revealed a percise timetable of biblical events but also has opened up spiritual understanding (progressive revelation) of His word that with certainty reveals we are at the end of time for this present world. The biblical timeline fashion with opening up of the scriptures reveals the church age ended on May 21 1988 after 1955 year's as an external representation of God on earth. This is the apostasy,satan stands in the Holy place. God removed His Holy Spirit from all the churches and congregation's that have identified themselves with Christ and installed satan to rule there,the daily sacrifice taken away. May 21 1988 was the 13000th year of earth's history and the beginning of the great tribulation that lasted 23 years / 8400 days. September 7 1994 (the last jubilee) unsher in a 17 years of the latter rain whereas God who elected a people for Himself at the foundation of the world begin to apply salvation/regeneration of dead spirits outside of the churches in the world ( the last will be first and the first will be last) saving more souls in that timespan than any other point in history. All of this ended on May 21 2011 the beginning of judgment day. Satan was dethroned as ruler of this world a right of conquest won in the garden with the fall of mankind to where he is no longer relevant at this point.Satan is not responsible for what is happening in our day,this is the wrath of God being poured out on the unsaved people's of the world ( standing before God). Christ came as He said He would like a "theif in the night" and did for most of mankind but not for the one's who heeded the warning of that day ( judgment day) will not "overtake you as a theif".Christ is no longer the belovant saviour but the judge ruling the nation's people's of the world with a rod of iron. As the wrath of God continues to worsen the people of God will go through this time of trouble but, will endure to the end.

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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
anybody know ? using scripture only as proof!
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You pose a very good question, OP, and most don't like what the Bible says about it...

Which is that God picks the ones He wants to save.

However, salvation is a 2-way street, born of free will. If you seek, you shall find. Knock, and it shall be opened to you. Do nothing, and get nothing.

It also says that, should you commit yourself to a life of sin, at some point God removes His hand from you, like He did with satan, and allows you to wallow for eternity in depravity. Meaning, you have no redemption left. You CANNOT be saved, because God hardens your heart, due to previous choices.

Like Sodom, as a whole. Or the Pharaoh who refused to let Moses lead out the people to Israel. Pharaoh hardened his heart first, and then God did it for him, later.

Does God pick the ones He wants to save because He knows they can and will be saved? No idea.

God is sovereign and, as God, He does as He pleases.
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
Here is a good vid explaining the biblical context for your question:




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Matthew 25

"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
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amen the right answer they fed &clothed christ when they fed their own children!
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and there is more! unbelievers who do good to ther own babies /children HAVE DONE THE WILL OF JESUS' FATHER FOR HE BLESSES THEM FOR IT ETERNALLY AND SO BY JESUS OWN DEFINITION ARE HIS MOTHER, BROTHER, SISTER!!!!!
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Karma goes with you when you die.
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Re: if as it says "God is saviour of all men but especially of believers! then how are unbelievers saved?
It’s pretty simple really. Jesus died for the sin of every human being who ever lived and only those who receive Christ receive everlasting life. John 1:12. 1 Tim. 2:4. Titus 2:11-14





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