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Court hearing today against mandatory vaccinations in US

 
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
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Not everyone thinks like you do.
Have you been paying attention in Florida? Businesses are maskless & allow people to shop w/out masks.
 Quoting: Garufal


WRONG!

I live in Tampa.

99% of business still require masks and have signs posted at entry points.

Some still require temperature checks.

DISGUSTING.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
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obviously your a slave for a shitty company .
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Me too!! Where is a good place to be? Are there any large land owners or farmers here who want to open up their land for a little town? I follow Amazing Polly and she mentioned this idea a while ago. I wonder if she's working on it? She's in Canada, though. Perhaps we can abut her town at the border lol.
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This was tried among the “patriot community” years ago, in the 1980s and 90s. A certain former SF Colonel was trying to get “patriots” to move to a planned community in Idaho. This guy was also involved in “training” said “patriots” in costly classes. As far as I know, the whole idea eventually fell through. My take on it, give the rather suspicious and less-than-stellar reputations of those involved, was that it was a.gov op to get those terminally-disaffected to move to one place so they could be watched, and psyops run on them at will.

While it would be wonderful to be able to feel that one was not in the midst of one’s enemies, it might not be the best thing too do. Scattered as we are, we’re able to keep making a difference in our communities. It may feel like we are shoveling sand against the tide, but that’s immaterial, really; life is short, and we’re put here to make a positive difference on the lives of others, to help them and uplift them - it’s hard to do that when sequestered away in our own little bailiwick.
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That is very interesting!! They sure would watch anyone that does that like a hawk. We will need a vague way to show who we are so we can connect other ways.
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Probably best that we leave it up to God to direct our paths, that we might meet like-minded individuals. You can always pray that He’d send kindred spirits your way, as He is the best judge of character.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


I run a big a company of 124 employees in FL. None will be required to get vaccines.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


Not everyone thinks like you do.
Have you been paying attention in Florida? Businesses are maskless & allow people to shop w/out masks.
 Quoting: Garufal


Well where i live thats not allowed.

And that isnt a nationwide standard.

Also i have family in florida and they say masks are required everywhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


I live in FL, I've never wore a mask. Check the AARP vaccine/mask mandates for each state. You will see that FL is a voluntary state. If you want to wear it, go ahead, if you don't then go ahead as well. No penalties, no mandate, no nothing.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


Not everyone thinks like you do.
Have you been paying attention in Florida? Businesses are maskless & allow people to shop w/out masks.
 Quoting: Garufal


WRONG!

I live in Tampa.

99% of business still require masks and have signs posted at entry points.

Some still require temperature checks.

DISGUSTING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79444931


I live in Orlando. No one has refused me for not wearing a mask. They can have signs, but I ignore them as I know the law. I work in the medico-legal field. I wish everyone could educate themselves instead of being told what to do, where and how like slaves.
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This would make it impossible for employers to force the vaccines.

Also those who have reactions and allergies to vaccine bullshit will be protected from discrimination.
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you're talking like they already passed the bill, watch and learn how it won't be
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In the face of future public health emergencies like the Coronavirus, a precedential Supreme Court decision about the government’s power to protect citizens by quarantine and forced vaccinations could receive new interest.

On February 20, 1905, the Supreme Court, by a 7-2 majority, said in Jacobson v. Massachusetts that the city of Cambridge, Massachusetts could fine residents who refused to receive smallpox injections. In 1901, a smallpox epidemic swept through the Northeast and Cambridge, and Massachusetts reacted by requiring all adults receive smallpox inoculations subject to a $5 fine. In 1902, Pastor Henning Jacobson, suggesting that he and his son both were injured by previous vaccines, refused to be vaccinated and to pay the fine. In state court, Jacobson argued the vaccine law violated the Massachusetts and federal constitutions. The state courts, including the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, rejected his claims. Before the Supreme Court, Jacobson argued that, “compulsion to introduce disease into a healthy system is a violation of liberty.”

On February 20, 1905, the Supreme Court rejected Jacobson’s arguments. Justice John Marshall Harlan wrote about the police power of states to regulate for the protection of public health: “The good and welfare of the Commonwealth, of which the legislature is primarily the judge, is the basis on which the police power rests in Massachusetts,” Harlan said “upon the principle of self-defense, of paramount necessity, a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic of disease which threatens the safety of its members.”


Jacobson had argued that the Massachusetts law requiring mandatory vaccination was a violation of due process under the 14th Amendment, particularly the right “to live and work where he will” under the precedent of Allgeyer v. Louisiana (1897), a case that found that a state law preventing certain out-of-state insurance corporations from conducting business in the state was unconstitutional restriction of freedom of contract under the 14th Amendment. Harlan answered that while the Court had protected such liberty, a citizen:

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USA scotus already ruled and set a precedent for mandatory vaccinations, so USA is fuqed like the rest of the World
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Learn about the Neuremberg Code and Hellsinki declaration tard boy.

ANY COUNTRY that imposes an experimental medical procedure on ANYONE is in violation of international law.

Guess what tardo. International law trumps 'muh jacobson' because the USA CONSENTED to be governed by those treaties.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


Not everyone thinks like you do.
Have you been paying attention in Florida? Businesses are maskless & allow people to shop w/out masks.
 Quoting: Garufal


Well where i live thats not allowed.

And that isnt a nationwide standard.

Also i have family in florida and they say masks are required everywhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


No, there's a sign on the door that says 'must wear mask'.

There IS NO LAW saying you must wear mask.

Now a business DOING BUSINESS WITH THE PUBLIC that tries to FORCE you to 'wear muh mask', or impose other sanctions upon you, or limit your entry, is in violation of your right to conduct commerce.

'Muh private business' my ass. This is why you HAVE TO BAKE A GAY CAKE if some figgots come into your store. Because YOU ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE PUBLIC and there is no LAW on the books that allows you to preclude certain members of the public for how they choose to dress.

There is A LAW for 'no shirt no shoes no service' - it's called a decency law. Therefore stores CAN enforce those rules, yet there IS NO MASK LAW. Therefore stores CANNOT enforce those rules without being in violation of your right to conduct commerce in the public, and potentially your civil rights per 1968, particularly if you claim a medical or religious exemption.

This is why even WALMART stopped bothering to 'enforce' masks at the store entry. Lawsuits were starting to flow in. Oh they can harass you a bit and try to goad you into putting one on, but if you walk right by them they ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STOP YOU, put their hand on YOU, or preclude you from doing business for not wearing a mask alone.
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As a patriot, I demand that government be limited to a fixed budget, not mess with my rights, stop the bribery, political favoritism and outright lying to me.

Maybe then, I will listen, and I mean just listen.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


I own a small private business so it will help me but not my husband who works for another company. But my daughter who is a junior in high school.. how would that work?
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School has been requiring vaccines for a long time now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


COVID19 shots ARE NOT VACCINATIONS, VACCINATIONS IN NAME ONLY. COVID19 injections are gene therapy. Big difference than vaccination. Its like calling veggie burgers, meat.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


I run a big a company of 124 employees in FL. None will be required to get vaccines.
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Um.. are you hiring? 😊
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Great information..

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You don’t need to sign something to give consent — baring your arm is sufficient.

In the case of vaccination, this is, in essence, your gesture that gives the vaccinator permission to touch you and inject you. Failure to seek your permission would typically be regarded, legally, as assault or battery.

The real problem therefore isn’t with the consent itself, but with the information that should precede the issue of consent.

The three prerequisites for informed consent

For consent to be valid you need 3 things:

It must be given voluntarily— without coercion or deceit.

It must be given by an individual who has mental capacity.

BEFORE giving consent, a person needs to have been fully informed about the issue. That includes being informed about what the risks and benefits of the treatment or vaccination are, as well as the risks and benefits of going without the treatment or vaccination, and what alternate options might be available.
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You do NOT ask Criminals NOT to Execute YOU.

When they try to Kill you, You Execute Them.
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Exactly, you don't comply, you fight like your life depends on it, because it fucking does, no means no, don't let anyone cross that line, if you have to die in the process, so be it, think logically here, they are going to kill you one way or another, defending yourself is your god given right and it's the moral and just thing too do when your time comes, never make it easy for these bastards.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
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NOT UNLESS IT VIOLATES CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND HIPPA LAWS.
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I own a small private business so it will help me but not my husband who works for another company. But my daughter who is a junior in high school.. how would that work?
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School has been requiring vaccines for a long time now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


There are 3 types of exemptions in every state: philosophical, medical, or religious.
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Not true. THere is no medical exemption in NYS anymore.
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The religious exemption is the last in CT, and it's on the chopping bloc now, will pass as we are currently occupied
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Does anyone know if the court hearing took place today, as it didn't seem to be on their calender for today. Was date changed, or did I miss it, and if so, anyone know if anything good came out of it? (keeping fingers crossed, but expecting no miracles.)
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


It's a start and may begin to push the pendulum in the other direction. If tens of millions of people or more begin to shift their shopping habits to those small stores that don't mandate masks, more and more stores, their owners and employees will want to save their businesses and jobs. With more and more people going out and about with no masks, how long before the military and hospitals and doctors come to realize they have lost their propaganda role. At some point, the critical mass of the intelligent beings outnumber the sheep; or so one would think.
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The media has enough people brainwashed to accept the vaccines.
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Many reports have stated that 40% to 60% of Drs. & nurses have DECLINED the CV injections... Smart ones.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


I own a small private business so it will help me but not my husband who works for another company. But my daughter who is a junior in high school.. how would that work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76930440


School has been requiring vaccines for a long time now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


COVID19 shots ARE NOT VACCINATIONS, VACCINATIONS IN NAME ONLY. COVID19 injections are gene therapy. Big difference than vaccination. Its like calling veggie burgers, meat.
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Gene Therapy is a cushy term for DNA modification, insertion of nanotechnology, Hydrogel & ultimately enslavement.
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It's a start and may begin to push the pendulum in the other direction. If tens of millions of people or more begin to shift their shopping habits to those small stores that don't mandate masks, more and more stores, their owners and employees will want to save their businesses and jobs. With more and more people going out and about with no masks, how long before the military and hospitals and doctors come to realize they have lost their propaganda role. At some point, the critical mass of the intelligent beings outnumber the sheep; or so one would think.
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The media has enough people brainwashed to accept the vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


I agree! My own friends and family are begging for it. I just can't believe how much they are sheeps!! They are smart people but are drinking the kool aid. All libs to boot. Sigh.
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My daughter got certified to administer the vaccine and part of this was having to ALSO get certified in CPR!

Let that sink in...
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CPR has always been a part of vaccination training for pharmacists.

That being said, vaccination should ALWAYS be a choice. Employers shouldn’t be able to require it either. If you’re worried about unvaccinated people getting you sick, then get the vaccine yourself.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
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Private business laws DO NOT override the Laws of the Land. Otherwise everyone will just make up their own laws.

Currently, the law of the land does not mandate vaccines, it is just a recommendation, guidance, advisory. It is not a law.

I strongly suggest you all visit Peggy Hall at the THE HEALTHY AMERICAN where she lays out clearly, what is and what is not law regarding this scamdemic, and details the exact process and methods to repel this whole bs.

www.thehealthyamerican.org/take-action

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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
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The Company may ask you to get a vax ... then you tell them they will be responsible for any issue. The company will back down.
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I will look to see if anyone, particularly RFK Jr, has a template for that type of thing. My husband is 55 and even though he's in good health, I saw the VAERS data and I don't like it.
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Peggy Hall has these templates.
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Yeah, ruling on an exemption is moot, they aren't mandatory now. I think murder charges are moot now too. The victim is dead, they can't be revived. Filing charges against the killer is moot.
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OP, WHAT a fucking dumbass (you AND that suit).

Going to be instantly dismissed for lack of standing.


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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


Not everyone thinks like you do.
Have you been paying attention in Florida? Businesses are maskless & allow people to shop w/out masks.
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100% against it. I think the vaccine should be madatory. If an employee doesnt get it then they cant go to work and will be without pay and unexcused absences til they are fired. Then no unemployment benefits after that.

They dont care about other people so fucm them. Let them live under a bridge.
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Private businesses can still require anything they want of employees and customers.

Military and healthcare can still force it on their employees.

This lawsuit seems worthless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071323


It's a start and may begin to push the pendulum in the other direction. If tens of millions of people or more begin to shift their shopping habits to those small stores that don't mandate masks, more and more stores, their owners and employees will want to save their businesses and jobs. With more and more people going out and about with no masks, how long before the military and hospitals and doctors come to realize they have lost their propaganda role. At some point, the critical mass of the intelligent beings outnumber the sheep; or so one would think.
 Quoting: Reaching


If we could get to 50% or more, yep it'll work

One thing that hasnt been discussed publicly is what about people who absolutely can not take any vaccines be it theirs or whichever shot de jour.
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Hitler tells them it's not right.





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