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Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.

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Ok. So you test everyone involved with delivering goods at any border or stateline. At least not as free as it was before.
I just thought it was a logical thing to do...
 Quoting: sbt


But, you're missing the point. The driver's are the least of worries when it comes to delivery. It's really everyone else in the chain.

The other thing is, there is NO such thing as "not as free". That's like being "sort of" pregnant. You either are or not. The virus is on the loose or it's still in the lab. Once it hit outside air, there was no way to stop the spread, no matter what the theories. It was ALWAYS going to spread, no matter what we tried.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


There was always a way to stop the spread. First one was to close the borders very stricly. Second, to test every one within the borders. Third, to count all infected per state/country.
And then communicate with other states/countries about the situation.

Every country/state had of course developed a perfect real vaccine. And so, the infection number went to zero.

After all countries/states were to be found clear, borders could be opened again!

All people of the world were SO happy! They bought at least ten turkeys to express their thankfulness.

5a
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Sorry hon, but it doesn't work that way. Maybe in your timeline?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I know. It was just a fantasy...
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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That is the point. People want to go where they want and when they want. Millions of people just want to do what they were used to do for such a long time.

So what if they lose that freedom for a while for own their protection? (is it?)

Pity I am only correct in the abstract while I was thinking quite concrete.

I isolated myself almost completely. So, it is possible!
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That's the thing... it's not "for a while" at this point. It's been two years.

And while you have isolated yourself, I have operated in a range equivalent to the northernmost point of Germany to the southernmost point of France... and I can't isolate if you want society to operate. And there are many many more like me.

All it takes is one... cough cough.
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That is the point. People want to go where they want and when they want. Millions of people just want to do what they were used to do for such a long time.

So what if they lose that freedom for a while for own their protection? (is it?)

Pity I am only correct in the abstract while I was thinking quite concrete.

I isolated myself almost completely. So, it is possible!
 Quoting: sbt


That's the thing... it's not "for a while" at this point. It's been two years.

And while you have isolated yourself, I have operated in a range equivalent to the northernmost point of Germany to the southernmost point of France... and I can't isolate if you want society to operate. And there are many many more like me.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


No. But we could have been more responsible by getting movement down to a certain flow. It would have sucked, but it would have kept from what happens next.

Go team Go. /s/
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can we get that vidoe of the protest, RW? that would b a real SHTF scene.

"turn off the water, we won't work for sh*t" while throwing poop at the leaders. bet they'd call Farci to clean up
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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1 issue was the govern's lying to ppl so much. now nobody will believe anyone. even if someone tried to tell the whole truth,ears are turned off. that led to more confusion and CT's. by design imo.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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1 issue was the govern's lying to ppl so much. now nobody will believe anyone. even if someone tried to tell the whole truth,ears are turned off. that led to more confusion and CT's. by design imo.
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Incompetence.
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That is the point. People want to go where they want and when they want. Millions of people just want to do what they were used to do for such a long time.

So what if they lose that freedom for a while for own their protection? (is it?)

Pity I am only correct in the abstract while I was thinking quite concrete.

I isolated myself almost completely. So, it is possible!
 Quoting: sbt


That's the thing... it's not "for a while" at this point. It's been two years.

And while you have isolated yourself, I have operated in a range equivalent to the northernmost point of Germany to the southernmost point of France... and I can't isolate if you want society to operate. And there are many many more like me.

All it takes is one... cough cough.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I know and understand. Thank you.
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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That is the point. People want to go where they want and when they want. Millions of people just want to do what they were used to do for such a long time.

So what if they lose that freedom for a while for own their protection? (is it?)

Pity I am only correct in the abstract while I was thinking quite concrete.

I isolated myself almost completely. So, it is possible!
 Quoting: sbt


That's the thing... it's not "for a while" at this point. It's been two years.

And while you have isolated yourself, I have operated in a range equivalent to the northernmost point of Germany to the southernmost point of France... and I can't isolate if you want society to operate. And there are many many more like me.

All it takes is one... cough cough.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I know and understand. Thank you.
 Quoting: sbt


However, what if you just stopped operating...what would happen?
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
(Friedrich Nietzsche)
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No electricity. No water. No gas for emergency vehicles. Etc etc etc.
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Hit dog squeals perhaps?
Awful quick to address this, especially compared to all the other accusations..
(Explanation is in a screenshot at link.)

Why were two letters in the Greek alphabet skipped to name the new coronavirus variant? WHO has provided this explanation

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
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France reports 37,218 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase since April

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Hit dog squeals perhaps?
Awful quick to address this, especially compared to all the other accusations..
(Explanation is in a screenshot at link.)

Why were two letters in the Greek alphabet skipped to name the new coronavirus variant? WHO has provided this explanation

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


That's actually a reasonably believable explanation, for once. Plus, doesn't Omicron sound really ominous???
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

Lenonard Cohen
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I have a very sinking feeling that nobody is going to avoid this one, if it is anywhere near as contagious as early reports are indicating. That's pretty darn spooky.

I am going to be hunkering down harder for the upcoming future. I am trying to avoid going to mom's this week, unless things go really critical, just because the caregivers may have gone to Thanksgiving gatherings and I want to avoid exposure to them.

I have a garden to tend, classes to teach, and an ongoing crisis to manage. That ought to keep me busy for the next however-many months.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

Lenonard Cohen
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Hit dog squeals perhaps?
Awful quick to address this, especially compared to all the other accusations..
(Explanation is in a screenshot at link.)

Why were two letters in the Greek alphabet skipped to name the new coronavirus variant? WHO has provided this explanation

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


That's actually a reasonably believable explanation, for once. Plus, doesn't Omicron sound really ominous???
 Quoting: Doommonkey


Omega would have been more ominous.
And yeah, relatively reasonable.
But still record time.
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However, what if you just stopped operating...what would happen?
 Quoting: sbt


Everything would be fine for a month, maybe two. Then the power grid would go down.

Or in a worst case scenario, everything would be fine for 3 days and then the power grid would go down. Depends on what fails and if I can talk facility personnel through fixing something over the phone which is hit or miss.

Substitute the sewage system for a major city for the power grid listed above, depending on which of my clients we're talking about.
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However, what if you just stopped operating...what would happen?
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Everything would be fine for a month, maybe two. Then the power grid would go down.

Or in a worst case scenario, everything would be fine for 3 days and then the power grid would go down.

Substitute the sewage system for a major city for the power grid listed above, depending on which of my clients we're talking about.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Which reminds me.
In case anyone needs it:

Surviving a Catastrophic Power Outage
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What's bad is, there are a bunch of other contractors like me that work at all these important plants with other specialties I know nothing about.

These plants since COVID treat contractors like lepers, at least low level ones like welders and pipe fitters and general construction workers.

But specialty contractors like me, they let their guard down and let us into the control room and admin areas and whatnot.

And since there aren't a lot of us, we tend to work at all the plants in a geographic area.

A super spreader could do a lot of damage.
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No electricity. No water. No gas for emergency vehicles. Etc etc etc.
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Wow. Is R.W really responsible for even my gas delivery?

Obviously I don't see what I should see.
Should I cut the old branches of the tree
to warm and protect me from the cold and rain
and not be harmed by the very next strain?

When I try to rhyme it must be bedtime!

Thank you.

However, what if...

NO.
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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What's bad is, there are a bunch of other contractors like me that work at all these important plants with other specialties I know nothing about.

These plants since COVID treat contractors like lepers, at least low level ones like welders and pipe fitters and general construction workers.

But specialty contractors like me, they let their guard down and let us into the control room and admin areas and whatnot.

And since there aren't a lot of us, we tend to work at all the plants in a geographic area.

A super spreader could do a lot of damage.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Don’t eff it up.
And tell your buddies not to eff it up either.
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No electricity. No water. No gas for emergency vehicles. Etc etc etc.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Wow. Is R.W really responsible for even my gas delivery?

Obviously I don't see what I should see.
Should I cut the old branches of the tree
to warm and protect me from the cold and rain
and not be harmed by the very next strain?

When I try to rhyme it must be bedtime!

Thank you.

However, what if...

NO.
 Quoting: sbt


RW is in fact a very experienced field repair and maintenance specialist for large, complicated pumps that are crucial to the operation of turbines, water treatment plants, etc.

So yeah, if you're asking if he's "essential", he's not; he's "critical" to things we take for granted.

Flip the switch, we expect the light to go on.

Turn on the faucet and we expect clean, sanitary water to flow.

Without the RW's of the world working in odd locations at even crazier hours the world would be a very different place.
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
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Re: Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.
What's bad is, there are a bunch of other contractors like me that work at all these important plants with other specialties I know nothing about.

These plants since COVID treat contractors like lepers, at least low level ones like welders and pipe fitters and general construction workers.

But specialty contractors like me, they let their guard down and let us into the control room and admin areas and whatnot.

And since there aren't a lot of us, we tend to work at all the plants in a geographic area.

A super spreader could do a lot of damage.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Don’t eff it up.
And tell your buddies not to eff it up either.
 Quoting: Guythu


Agreed.
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
(Friedrich Nietzsche)
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No electricity. No water. No gas for emergency vehicles. Etc etc etc.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Wow. Is R.W really responsible for even my gas delivery?

Obviously I don't see what I should see.
Should I cut the old branches of the tree
to warm and protect me from the cold and rain
and not be harmed by the very next strain?

When I try to rhyme it must be bedtime!

Thank you.

However, what if...

NO.
 Quoting: sbt


RW is in fact a very experienced field repair and maintenance specialist for large, complicated pumps that are crucial to the operation of turbines, water treatment plants, etc.

So yeah, if you're asking if he's "essential", he's not; he's "critical" to things we take for granted.

Flip the switch, we expect the light to go on.

Turn on the faucet and we expect clean, sanitary water to flow.

Without the RW's of the world working in odd locations at even crazier hours the world would be a very different place.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Thank you. And yes I am very grateful every day...to have water and a warm house and for everything else...

I always was. I don't need anyone or RW to convince me. I thank the Lord (who has probably nothing to do with it) and foreall the system, witch RW is a part of.

Thank you RW!

hfhfhf
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Someone called me an asshole...through red.

And so it goes.

Goodnight peace
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Wow. Is R.W really responsible for even my gas delivery?
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I only worked for a natural gas distribution plant once, a few years back.

Same for gasoline, haven't worked for a refinery in quite a while though a big one in New Jersey used to be a major client of mine.

But safe to say, there's some guy like me very important to the day to day operation of said facilities out there that is a weak link.
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Been snowing up here the past two days.

With my broken leg last spring I didn't store nearly enough wood to make it through the winter if the shit really hits the fan.

If it's truly a dark winter, it's gonna be a cold one too.

verycold
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Been snowing up here the past two days.

With my broken leg last spring I didn't store nearly enough wood to make it through the winter if the shit really hits the fan.

If it's truly a dark winter, it's gonna be a cold one too.

verycold
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


It’s only been 3 days.
Dec 21st feels a long ways away.
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So I decided to do a bit of research on South Africa and invermectin-

[link to rclutz.com (secure)]

Ivermectin and the African Enigma

Although this article was published 2 days ago, the study referenced is from 2020.

Pueblished in July, this is a bit more recent:
[link to rclutz.com (secure)]
Ivermectin Invictus: The Unsung Covid Victor

Another article
ps://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-11-08-farmers-vs-ph​armacists-how-south-africas-ivermectin-use-slips-through-the-​cracks/
Farmers vs pharmacists: How South Africa’s ivermectin use slips through the cracks
This is from Nov 8th and basically how they get through loopholes to get the horse paste.

The BBC -
[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
less than 50%
Ivermectin has been called a Covid "miracle" drug, championed by vaccine opponents, and recommended by health authorities in some countries. But the BBC can reveal there are serious errors in a number of key studies that the drug's promoters rely on.

I think we need to really research this, because if this new variant is as bad as they said it is, there is a good possibility of an ELE, imo

Please take a look around and see.
 Quoting: Bastetcat


I am wondering if I am the only one who can see what I posted in the middle of the night about invermectin?
Unless I missed someone responding, no one posted anything.
Maybe I wasn't clear-
South Africa and the other African countries were supposed to have been spared because of the widespread use of the horse paste.
This new variant apparently can overcome the magic gel?
Why I posted the few articles I could find about invermectin and South Africa.
If invermectin doesn't work anymore against this variant, what will? Anyone seen anything? I am trying to keep up with the Twitt feed that the original thread has become, and from what I've seen, there isn't another antedote-yet.
Friends of mine, what say you?
Life finds a way.
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So I decided to do a bit of research on South Africa and invermectin-

[link to rclutz.com (secure)]

Ivermectin and the African Enigma

Although this article was published 2 days ago, the study referenced is from 2020.

Pueblished in July, this is a bit more recent:
[link to rclutz.com (secure)]
Ivermectin Invictus: The Unsung Covid Victor

Another article
ps://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-11-08-farmers-vs-ph​armacists-how-south-africas-ivermectin-use-slips-through-the-​cracks/
Farmers vs pharmacists: How South Africa’s ivermectin use slips through the cracks
This is from Nov 8th and basically how they get through loopholes to get the horse paste.

The BBC -
[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
less than 50%
Ivermectin has been called a Covid "miracle" drug, championed by vaccine opponents, and recommended by health authorities in some countries. But the BBC can reveal there are serious errors in a number of key studies that the drug's promoters rely on.

I think we need to really research this, because if this new variant is as bad as they said it is, there is a good possibility of an ELE, imo

Please take a look around and see.
 Quoting: Bastetcat


I am wondering if I am the only one who can see what I posted in the middle of the night about invermectin?
Unless I missed someone responding, no one posted anything.
Maybe I wasn't clear-
South Africa and the other African countries were supposed to have been spared because of the widespread use of the horse paste.
This new variant apparently can overcome the magic gel?
Why I posted the few articles I could find about invermectin and South Africa.
If invermectin doesn't work anymore against this variant, what will? Anyone seen anything? I am trying to keep up with the Twitt feed that the original thread has become, and from what I've seen, there isn't another antedote-yet.
Friends of mine, what say you?
 Quoting: Bastetcat



I have to admit, BC, I've become very, very jaded about what I read these days unless I have some sense of the credibility of the author.

There are a few folks here who qualify.
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
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Re: Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.
So I decided to do a bit of research on South Africa and invermectin-

[link to rclutz.com (secure)]

Ivermectin and the African Enigma

Although this article was published 2 days ago, the study referenced is from 2020.

Pueblished in July, this is a bit more recent:
[link to rclutz.com (secure)]
Ivermectin Invictus: The Unsung Covid Victor

Another article
ps://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-11-08-farmers-vs-ph​armacists-how-south-africas-ivermectin-use-slips-through-the-​cracks/
Farmers vs pharmacists: How South Africa’s ivermectin use slips through the cracks
This is from Nov 8th and basically how they get through loopholes to get the horse paste.

The BBC -
[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
less than 50%
Ivermectin has been called a Covid "miracle" drug, championed by vaccine opponents, and recommended by health authorities in some countries. But the BBC can reveal there are serious errors in a number of key studies that the drug's promoters rely on.

I think we need to really research this, because if this new variant is as bad as they said it is, there is a good possibility of an ELE, imo

Please take a look around and see.
 Quoting: Bastetcat


I am wondering if I am the only one who can see what I posted in the middle of the night about invermectin?
Unless I missed someone responding, no one posted anything.
Maybe I wasn't clear-
South Africa and the other African countries were supposed to have been spared because of the widespread use of the horse paste.
This new variant apparently can overcome the magic gel?
Why I posted the few articles I could find about invermectin and South Africa.
If invermectin doesn't work anymore against this variant, what will? Anyone seen anything? I am trying to keep up with the Twitt feed that the original thread has become, and from what I've seen, there isn't another antedote-yet.
Friends of mine, what say you?
 Quoting: Bastetcat



I have to admit, BC, I've become very, very jaded about what I read these days unless I have some sense of the credibility of the author.

There are a few folks here who qualify.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Bastetcat, I can see your post too.
As for the ivermectin, yes the virus could be escaping it.
Unfortunately, since the start we have seen the kitchen sink thrown at this monster, all having mixed/varied results.

As for what will work, I don’t have an answer not sure anyone does.

I agree with Larry, even if someone does know, the waters are so muddy one would have to run their own trials to be sure.
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Health officials in New South Wales, Australia, have begun urgent testing after two people who arrived on a flight from southern Africa overnight tested positive to the coronavirus

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It’s like a 5-year old opened a can of glitter.
Damn thing is everywhere.

BREAKING: Australia reports first 2 cases of new coronavirus variant
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BREAKING: Netherlands reports at least 13 cases of new coronavirus variant
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Germany reports first confirmed case of new coronavirus variant
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BREAKING: Denmark reports first 2 cases of new coronavirus variant
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