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Sars Cov 2 … the grinder continues to eat away at resources and humanity.

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Just do enough. You are a good person. And that’s the best we can be at the moment.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Ah, but see? That's the rub. Who decides what is enough? I don't think I'm doing "enough", not at the level I did a few years ago. I sympathize with the covid survivors. It's a lot like what I went through after my kidneys shut down and thankfully, restarted. It was months before I could go without a cane. I feel bad for them, but what is there to do?

I've been thinking about this today. We all come on here and post and read the latest, but what good have we done, other than for ourselves? Some have read and prepped and stayed out of trouble, but shoot! My own kids didn't listen. They got the shots. My daughter fully plans to get the littles theirs when it's available. I'm sure my oldest son will do the same with his 2.

Talking to my brother and sil yesterday, they told me of people in town that I know that have died, had heart attacks, strokes. All vaxxed, I'm sure enough that I'd put money on it and win. All really good people.

I totally believe in the power of prayer, but I've got no words. I trust God to hear the "groanings of my heart" and I know that He does. I can't answer the prayer request threads anymore. I can't give condolences. Everything sounds trite to me and they deserve better than what I can give.

My heart is beyond broken, it's smashed to bits and stomped on. Whoever is responsible for this madness deserves so much more than hung, drawn and quartered, but again, we wait for God's judgment because man will not give them up.

Don't feel sorry for me. This is coming to us all. Hell is loose on earth and it isn't going to freeze over.

Sorry, not sorry for the rant. It kind of wrote itself again. It's not good folks, what's here now and what's coming. It's time, to borrow from UD, to lift the ramp and close the doors on the ark. On that one thing for sure, he is right.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


This is a beautiful and important rant!

While we can pray to God for the world.... that’s the problem... others have to find their path to God. You can’t ask for everyone. That’s not your job.

And there are sooooooooooo many lurkers. Please don’t think that you have not helped people. But remember that in the end that single person has to make their choices. These conversations are important.

And most importantly!!!

Friendships & Fellowships.

No one needs to believe in anyone’s God or spiritual or religion stuff to just be DAMN GOOD PEOPLE.

Do not bury yourself in guilt that you do not deserve.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I'm comfortable with what I've done over the past 18 months. I repeatedly shared information with family, friends, and coworkers, trying to convince them how serious this was.

The end result was being asked to leave a company I worked at for 15 years and 90% of the people I shared with thinking I am a raving, paranoid lunatic. The other 10% are in positions to either independently confirm the information I put out or provide me with information which I then shared with GLP. I have disabled my FaceBook account and am no longer sharing information with anyone outside of this thread.

Anyone who refuses to take this seriously and take proper precautions by this point in time deserves whatever happens to them and I have no sympathy for any pain or death they might suffer due to their own ignorance.

My conscience is clean.
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Over half the deer tested in Michigan have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2

On Wednesday, the US Department of Agriculture released some rather disturbing news: a survey of wild deer populations has found that large numbers of the animals seem to have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The finding indicates that there's a very large population of wild animals in North America that could serve as a reservoir for the virus, even if we were to get its circulation within the human population under control.

[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


as RW pointed out the other day, how are the deer being infected? it is quite odd that it is so widespread in just 1 year. deer do not travel, and mingle as mush as humans. ain't driving around.

i'd like to see more spec's from the report. did they do 1 area and assume for the whole state? i doubt that but sill would like to see the info. couldn't find any the other day.

other than the hikers at state parks,ppl aren't out in the woods as much as before either. video games keep kids entertained instead. not many deer walk up and hug ppl either. for it to b so wide spread, it must b in more wildlife as well. racoons,skunks, feral cats,coyotes. so did it jump from garbage to wild dogs than to the deer? or from cats?

this does hint at some intel from UD way back.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Short answer: They don't know. But they suspect it's a domestic animal that is transferring the virus to deer, not humans. Their samples were from multiple states. Illinois deer only tested 7% positive in their sample. Michigan deer - 60%.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


we both know a herd of cows in 1 state ain't infecting the east coast in 1 year. only thing that could spread that far, that fast is wind.
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Ground Truth Report Indianapolis - J&J Vaccine vs. Delta Variant

Okay, I now have credible and specific evidence of vaccine fade over time, Delta variant breakthrough, or a combination of both.

Our neighbor received the J&J vaccine earlier this year. Don't remember when exactly, but it was prior to April.

Two weeks ago she got infected and diagnosed with the Delta variant of Covid, which she caught from a coworker who had just returned from Florida with a fever and sinus congestion. He was an anti-masker and insisted he just had a sinus infection.

Except he didn't.

Our neighbor has been off work for the past two weeks. Symptoms included headache, fever, and sinus congestion.

This is not theory or hyperbole. Either the vaccine loses its efficacy over time or the Delta variant has achieved some level of breakthrough. It is also possible that both conditions are occurring simultaneously.

I've been holding back on my opinion until I felt sure enough to say something, because I don't like to overreact. But I think it's time to acknowledge that we're going down this road again, and it's going to be worse this time around than it was in 2020.

Raffette and I are reviewing our supplies with the goal of approaching a one-year supply of non-perishables this time, rather than six months in the freezer and six months in the shelter. I'll also be restocking my gasoline supplies earlier than normal this year. I have refitted our P100 respirators with new filters and put them in our vehicles. We're going back to wearing masks in public places, mandate or no mandate.

Make your preparations and begin protecting yourself NOW, people. Seriously. We've barely scraped the surface of the rabbit hole so far.

Stay safe, everyone.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Chances are it’s Delta.

To add to yours - I’ve got 3 confirmed with similar symptoms and 1st of 2 Moderna doses in late Jan.

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 Quoting: Guythu


It was confirmed Delta variant. She was treated with a "massive antibody" injection. Sounds like plasma treatment to me.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Convalescent plasma is almost gone. Once you get the vaccine, you can’t give it.

Probably monoclonal antibodies.
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i wanted to do more to help others. have had bad luck for way too long. i did warn everyone,not that they listened. hence,how could we help? they are running around to where we couldn't trust to visit anyone.
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I know, Jazz. That's my point. Check your pm's in a minute. Ok?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


can i get a new body? that would help. can't move as well as i want. stomach,digestive issues. get sick every few mths. this time it is pushing on my back.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Over half the deer tested in Michigan have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2

On Wednesday, the US Department of Agriculture released some rather disturbing news: a survey of wild deer populations has found that large numbers of the animals seem to have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The finding indicates that there's a very large population of wild animals in North America that could serve as a reservoir for the virus, even if we were to get its circulation within the human population under control.

[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


as RW pointed out the other day, how are the deer being infected? it is quite odd that it is so widespread in just 1 year. deer do not travel, and mingle as mush as humans. ain't driving around.

i'd like to see more spec's from the report. did they do 1 area and assume for the whole state? i doubt that but sill would like to see the info. couldn't find any the other day.

other than the hikers at state parks,ppl aren't out in the woods as much as before either. video games keep kids entertained instead. not many deer walk up and hug ppl either. for it to b so wide spread, it must b in more wildlife as well. racoons,skunks, feral cats,coyotes. so did it jump from garbage to wild dogs than to the deer? or from cats?

this does hint at some intel from UD way back.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Short answer: They don't know. But they suspect it's a domestic animal that is transferring the virus to deer, not humans. Their samples were from multiple states. Illinois deer only tested 7% positive in their sample. Michigan deer - 60%.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


we both know a herd of cows in 1 state ain't infecting the east coast in 1 year. only thing that could spread that far, that fast is wind.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


House cats to feral cats. Etc etc etc.
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i wanted to do more to help others. have had bad luck for way too long. i did warn everyone,not that they listened. hence,how could we help? they are running around to where we couldn't trust to visit anyone.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


I know, Jazz. That's my point. Check your pm's in a minute. Ok?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


can i get a new body? that would help. can't move as well as i want. stomach,digestive issues. get sick every few mths. this time it is pushing on my back.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Sorry, hon. I ain't God. It's gotta be things I CAN do.
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Just do enough. You are a good person. And that’s the best we can be at the moment.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Ah, but see? That's the rub. Who decides what is enough? I don't think I'm doing "enough", not at the level I did a few years ago. I sympathize with the covid survivors. It's a lot like what I went through after my kidneys shut down and thankfully, restarted. It was months before I could go without a cane. I feel bad for them, but what is there to do?

I've been thinking about this today. We all come on here and post and read the latest, but what good have we done, other than for ourselves? Some have read and prepped and stayed out of trouble, but shoot! My own kids didn't listen. They got the shots. My daughter fully plans to get the littles theirs when it's available. I'm sure my oldest son will do the same with his 2.

Talking to my brother and sil yesterday, they told me of people in town that I know that have died, had heart attacks, strokes. All vaxxed, I'm sure enough that I'd put money on it and win. All really good people.

I totally believe in the power of prayer, but I've got no words. I trust God to hear the "groanings of my heart" and I know that He does. I can't answer the prayer request threads anymore. I can't give condolences. Everything sounds trite to me and they deserve better than what I can give.

My heart is beyond broken, it's smashed to bits and stomped on. Whoever is responsible for this madness deserves so much more than hung, drawn and quartered, but again, we wait for God's judgment because man will not give them up.

Don't feel sorry for me. This is coming to us all. Hell is loose on earth and it isn't going to freeze over.

Sorry, not sorry for the rant. It kind of wrote itself again. It's not good folks, what's here now and what's coming. It's time, to borrow from UD, to lift the ramp and close the doors on the ark. On that one thing for sure, he is right.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


This is a beautiful and important rant!

While we can pray to God for the world.... that’s the problem... others have to find their path to God. You can’t ask for everyone. That’s not your job.

And there are sooooooooooo many lurkers. Please don’t think that you have not helped people. But remember that in the end that single person has to make their choices. These conversations are important.

And most importantly!!!

Friendships & Fellowships.

No one needs to believe in anyone’s God or spiritual or religion stuff to just be DAMN GOOD PEOPLE.

Do not bury yourself in guilt that you do not deserve.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I'm comfortable with what I've done over the past 18 months. I repeatedly shared information with family, friends, and coworkers, trying to convince them how serious this was.

The end result was being asked to leave a company I worked at for 15 years and 90% of the people I shared with thinking I am a raving, paranoid lunatic. The other 10% are in positions to either independently confirm the information I put out or provide me with information which I then shared with GLP. I have disabled my FaceBook account and am no longer sharing information with anyone outside of this thread.

Anyone who refuses to take this seriously and take proper precautions by this point in time deserves whatever happens to them and I have no sympathy for any pain or death they might suffer due to their own ignorance.

My conscience is clean.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Exactly.

Well said. And thank you being you.
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TB will smoke signals work for EM this far? if we do lose GLP we are doomed. bigger prob's.

i will say my luck could b worse. did drop the pinion when i was in the parking lot. not 100 miles away. we keep rolling with the waves but their are rocks coming soon.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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TB will smoke signals work for EM this far? if we do lose GLP we are doomed. bigger prob's.

i will say my luck could b worse. did drop the pinion when i was in the parking lot. not 100 miles away. we keep rolling with the waves but their are rocks coming soon.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


I don't think they will. Prevailing winds are usually west to east, in some fashion.

About the jeep? Been there, done all that too. Can it be fixed or is it time to take it out to the back 40 and put it out of it's misery?
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Bwahahaha. I told Wordsie to do his own research.

Never expected such a quick turn around.

Found it

Answers & Information From Microbiologist Assisting Dr. Fauci:

This information was relayed to me by a family member who I trust implicitly. She takes this pandemic very seriously and would never provide me with false information. For what it's worth, I will personally vouch for her integrity, access to sources, and knowledge on the subject. The microbiologist's answers are in green.

I have a Health Department contact who might have access to a microbiologist who assists Dr. Fauci and she asked me if I had any quick questions for them. I put forth the following:

1: Long-term assessment of problems going into the winter/next year?
The virus is not weakening. If/when a vaccine is available, it will probably be required every six months to a year, with some guessing.

2: Recombination possibilities with bats in the Amazon?
Not discussed

3: Is herd immunity possible before the end of the year, if at all?
Herd immunity will not happen. So let me explain. There are two main types of viruses, DNA viruses and RNA viruses. DNA viruses tend to make carbon copies of themselves and so an immunity, via vaccine or previous infection, is more likely to be permanent. But RNA viruses tend to mutate quickly and even within your own body as it multiplies it is changing itself a bit as it goes, so immunity doesn’t necessarily work against the “new and improved” version of the virus. The big difference is that with antigen mediated immunity (DNA viruses) the body ALWAYS manufactures antigens to a thing - smallpox, polio, and things like that. (I’m staying out of the weeds because it’s complicated and I’ll mess it up if I talk about things that depend.) With cell mediated immunity (RNA viruses), the body can forget that it was a thing.

4: Most important metric to watch new cases, hospitalizations, ICU, or fatalities?
Watch Hospitalizations. Some asymptomatic carriers have been found to be super carriers, and numbers all over the country are unreliable. (Emphasis mine)

5: Percentage of population with natural resistance/immunity?
Not discussed

6: Accuracy of reports of antibodies disappearing after 60-90 days and does exposure to other coronaviruses have any effect on T-cells that might provide protection against CV19?
Not discussed

 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Other information that was included:

Air purifiers are helpful (that's why airplanes are fine, but airports not so much - the filters).

People's reaction to the virus is individual - not a matter of who gave it to you (ie, a person with a mild case can give it to someone who dies).


So there you have it. The three most important things I am taking away from this are:
1: Forget about discussing herd immunity. It's not possible.
2: This winter is going to be very bad because the virus is not getting weaker.
3: We cannot rely on the numbers we are seeing from the states. Whatever numbers we see, it's much, much worse.

This is straight from a high-ranking scientist on the front lines, not a politician. Feel free to do with this information what you want, but I'm not doubting anything she said.

Anyone have any thoughts on all of this?
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Just do enough. You are a good person. And that’s the best we can be at the moment.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Ah, but see? That's the rub. Who decides what is enough? I don't think I'm doing "enough", not at the level I did a few years ago. I sympathize with the covid survivors. It's a lot like what I went through after my kidneys shut down and thankfully, restarted. It was months before I could go without a cane. I feel bad for them, but what is there to do?

I've been thinking about this today. We all come on here and post and read the latest, but what good have we done, other than for ourselves? Some have read and prepped and stayed out of trouble, but shoot! My own kids didn't listen. They got the shots. My daughter fully plans to get the littles theirs when it's available. I'm sure my oldest son will do the same with his 2.

Talking to my brother and sil yesterday, they told me of people in town that I know that have died, had heart attacks, strokes. All vaxxed, I'm sure enough that I'd put money on it and win. All really good people.

I totally believe in the power of prayer, but I've got no words. I trust God to hear the "groanings of my heart" and I know that He does. I can't answer the prayer request threads anymore. I can't give condolences. Everything sounds trite to me and they deserve better than what I can give.

My heart is beyond broken, it's smashed to bits and stomped on. Whoever is responsible for this madness deserves so much more than hung, drawn and quartered, but again, we wait for God's judgment because man will not give them up.

Don't feel sorry for me. This is coming to us all. Hell is loose on earth and it isn't going to freeze over.

Sorry, not sorry for the rant. It kind of wrote itself again. It's not good folks, what's here now and what's coming. It's time, to borrow from UD, to lift the ramp and close the doors on the ark. On that one thing for sure, he is right.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


This is a beautiful and important rant!

While we can pray to God for the world.... that’s the problem... others have to find their path to God. You can’t ask for everyone. That’s not your job.

And there are sooooooooooo many lurkers. Please don’t think that you have not helped people. But remember that in the end that single person has to make their choices. These conversations are important.

And most importantly!!!

Friendships & Fellowships.

No one needs to believe in anyone’s God or spiritual or religion stuff to just be DAMN GOOD PEOPLE.

Do not bury yourself in guilt that you do not deserve.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I'm comfortable with what I've done over the past 18 months. I repeatedly shared information with family, friends, and coworkers, trying to convince them how serious this was.

The end result was being asked to leave a company I worked at for 15 years and 90% of the people I shared with thinking I am a raving, paranoid lunatic. The other 10% are in positions to either independently confirm the information I put out or provide me with information which I then shared with GLP. I have disabled my FaceBook account and am no longer sharing information with anyone outside of this thread.

Anyone who refuses to take this seriously and take proper precautions by this point in time deserves whatever happens to them and I have no sympathy for any pain or death they might suffer due to their own ignorance.

My conscience is clean.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Riff, I understand and actually agree with you to one point. I can't cut off my kids and my grands. Even though they're grown and live miles away, I'm still responsible for them. Even if they are sick, I will take them in. I know it's signing my own death warrant, but wth. I'm getting old and there doesn't seem to be a market for hugs from a gramma they haven't seen in 2 years.

They are the ONLY ones I will do that for, though.
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TB will smoke signals work for EM this far? if we do lose GLP we are doomed. bigger prob's.

i will say my luck could b worse. did drop the pinion when i was in the parking lot. not 100 miles away. we keep rolling with the waves but their are rocks coming soon.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


I don't think they will. Prevailing winds are usually west to east, in some fashion.

About the jeep? Been there, done all that too. Can it be fixed or is it time to take it out to the back 40 and put it out of it's misery?
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


cost of replacing has doubled.and that is if u find anything.so we kept babying this 1. keep hoping prices will come back down on used trucks. i'm hopeful i can bandaid it for less than $10. just buying time for now. but no i don't think it can get thru next years inspection.too much work,we should shoot it over winter.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Over half the deer tested in Michigan have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2

On Wednesday, the US Department of Agriculture released some rather disturbing news: a survey of wild deer populations has found that large numbers of the animals seem to have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The finding indicates that there's a very large population of wild animals in North America that could serve as a reservoir for the virus, even if we were to get its circulation within the human population under control.

[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


as RW pointed out the other day, how are the deer being infected? it is quite odd that it is so widespread in just 1 year. deer do not travel, and mingle as mush as humans. ain't driving around.

i'd like to see more spec's from the report. did they do 1 area and assume for the whole state? i doubt that but sill would like to see the info. couldn't find any the other day.

other than the hikers at state parks,ppl aren't out in the woods as much as before either. video games keep kids entertained instead. not many deer walk up and hug ppl either. for it to b so wide spread, it must b in more wildlife as well. racoons,skunks, feral cats,coyotes. so did it jump from garbage to wild dogs than to the deer? or from cats?

this does hint at some intel from UD way back.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Short answer: They don't know. But they suspect it's a domestic animal that is transferring the virus to deer, not humans. Their samples were from multiple states. Illinois deer only tested 7% positive in their sample. Michigan deer - 60%.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Remember last year when they found the virus in one of the Great Lakes?
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Over half the deer tested in Michigan have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2

On Wednesday, the US Department of Agriculture released some rather disturbing news: a survey of wild deer populations has found that large numbers of the animals seem to have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The finding indicates that there's a very large population of wild animals in North America that could serve as a reservoir for the virus, even if we were to get its circulation within the human population under control.

[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


as RW pointed out the other day, how are the deer being infected? it is quite odd that it is so widespread in just 1 year. deer do not travel, and mingle as mush as humans. ain't driving around.

i'd like to see more spec's from the report. did they do 1 area and assume for the whole state? i doubt that but sill would like to see the info. couldn't find any the other day.

other than the hikers at state parks,ppl aren't out in the woods as much as before either. video games keep kids entertained instead. not many deer walk up and hug ppl either. for it to b so wide spread, it must b in more wildlife as well. racoons,skunks, feral cats,coyotes. so did it jump from garbage to wild dogs than to the deer? or from cats?

this does hint at some intel from UD way back.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Short answer: They don't know. But they suspect it's a domestic animal that is transferring the virus to deer, not humans. Their samples were from multiple states. Illinois deer only tested 7% positive in their sample. Michigan deer - 60%.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


we both know a herd of cows in 1 state ain't infecting the east coast in 1 year. only thing that could spread that far, that fast is wind.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Not necessarily. Animals and people are transported across country every single day. Wild animals can also migrate long distances in a single year.
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TB will smoke signals work for EM this far? if we do lose GLP we are doomed. bigger prob's.

i will say my luck could b worse. did drop the pinion when i was in the parking lot. not 100 miles away. we keep rolling with the waves but their are rocks coming soon.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


I don't think they will. Prevailing winds are usually west to east, in some fashion.

About the jeep? Been there, done all that too. Can it be fixed or is it time to take it out to the back 40 and put it out of it's misery?
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cost of replacing has doubled.and that is if u find anything.so we kept babying this 1. keep hoping prices will come back down on used trucks. i'm hopeful i can bandaid it for less than $10. just buying time for now. but no i don't think it can get thru next years inspection.too much work,we should shoot it over winter.
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Sorry, Jazz. We've still got the dead Dodge Nitro in the driveway. Needs sensors replaced again and we can't get them yet. If our parents hadn't died, we wouldn't have been able to buy our jeep. I understand. Too well.
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Unidentified Noise Keeping Suitland Residents Up at Night

“It sounds kind of like a combination of a tornado siren and a spaceship taking off, like the siren from the ‘Purge’ movies,” resident Scott Bovarnick said.

People have complained about loud noises in the area of Prince George’s County on and off for years

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Just do enough. You are a good person. And that’s the best we can be at the moment.
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Ah, but see? That's the rub. Who decides what is enough? I don't think I'm doing "enough", not at the level I did a few years ago. I sympathize with the covid survivors. It's a lot like what I went through after my kidneys shut down and thankfully, restarted. It was months before I could go without a cane. I feel bad for them, but what is there to do?

I've been thinking about this today. We all come on here and post and read the latest, but what good have we done, other than for ourselves? Some have read and prepped and stayed out of trouble, but shoot! My own kids didn't listen. They got the shots. My daughter fully plans to get the littles theirs when it's available. I'm sure my oldest son will do the same with his 2.

Talking to my brother and sil yesterday, they told me of people in town that I know that have died, had heart attacks, strokes. All vaxxed, I'm sure enough that I'd put money on it and win. All really good people.

I totally believe in the power of prayer, but I've got no words. I trust God to hear the "groanings of my heart" and I know that He does. I can't answer the prayer request threads anymore. I can't give condolences. Everything sounds trite to me and they deserve better than what I can give.

My heart is beyond broken, it's smashed to bits and stomped on. Whoever is responsible for this madness deserves so much more than hung, drawn and quartered, but again, we wait for God's judgment because man will not give them up.

Don't feel sorry for me. This is coming to us all. Hell is loose on earth and it isn't going to freeze over.

Sorry, not sorry for the rant. It kind of wrote itself again. It's not good folks, what's here now and what's coming. It's time, to borrow from UD, to lift the ramp and close the doors on the ark. On that one thing for sure, he is right.
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I don't see it as a "rant", TB. And if you can't speak your truth here, where can you?
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Just do enough. You are a good person. And that’s the best we can be at the moment.
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Ah, but see? That's the rub. Who decides what is enough? I don't think I'm doing "enough", not at the level I did a few years ago. I sympathize with the covid survivors. It's a lot like what I went through after my kidneys shut down and thankfully, restarted. It was months before I could go without a cane. I feel bad for them, but what is there to do?

I've been thinking about this today. We all come on here and post and read the latest, but what good have we done, other than for ourselves? Some have read and prepped and stayed out of trouble, but shoot! My own kids didn't listen. They got the shots. My daughter fully plans to get the littles theirs when it's available. I'm sure my oldest son will do the same with his 2.

Talking to my brother and sil yesterday, they told me of people in town that I know that have died, had heart attacks, strokes. All vaxxed, I'm sure enough that I'd put money on it and win. All really good people.

I totally believe in the power of prayer, but I've got no words. I trust God to hear the "groanings of my heart" and I know that He does. I can't answer the prayer request threads anymore. I can't give condolences. Everything sounds trite to me and they deserve better than what I can give.

My heart is beyond broken, it's smashed to bits and stomped on. Whoever is responsible for this madness deserves so much more than hung, drawn and quartered, but again, we wait for God's judgment because man will not give them up.

Don't feel sorry for me. This is coming to us all. Hell is loose on earth and it isn't going to freeze over.

Sorry, not sorry for the rant. It kind of wrote itself again. It's not good folks, what's here now and what's coming. It's time, to borrow from UD, to lift the ramp and close the doors on the ark. On that one thing for sure, he is right.
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I don't see it as a "rant", TB. And if you can't speak your truth here, where can you?
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:thankyou:
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oh boy, are we back to UD and the virus surviving in water for extended amounts of time? that is DOOM beyond the planet. scary to think bout.

again, we'd need to see the logs of where the tests were done at. was in NW PA or down near Philly and the turnpike? would give us more insight. i looked, couldn't find nothing but the news release.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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Ah, but see? That's the rub. Who decides what is enough? I don't think I'm doing "enough", not at the level I did a few years ago. I sympathize with the covid survivors. It's a lot like what I went through after my kidneys shut down and thankfully, restarted. It was months before I could go without a cane. I feel bad for them, but what is there to do?

I've been thinking about this today. We all come on here and post and read the latest, but what good have we done, other than for ourselves? Some have read and prepped and stayed out of trouble, but shoot! My own kids didn't listen. They got the shots. My daughter fully plans to get the littles theirs when it's available. I'm sure my oldest son will do the same with his 2.

Talking to my brother and sil yesterday, they told me of people in town that I know that have died, had heart attacks, strokes. All vaxxed, I'm sure enough that I'd put money on it and win. All really good people.

I totally believe in the power of prayer, but I've got no words. I trust God to hear the "groanings of my heart" and I know that He does. I can't answer the prayer request threads anymore. I can't give condolences. Everything sounds trite to me and they deserve better than what I can give.

My heart is beyond broken, it's smashed to bits and stomped on. Whoever is responsible for this madness deserves so much more than hung, drawn and quartered, but again, we wait for God's judgment because man will not give them up.

Don't feel sorry for me. This is coming to us all. Hell is loose on earth and it isn't going to freeze over.

Sorry, not sorry for the rant. It kind of wrote itself again. It's not good folks, what's here now and what's coming. It's time, to borrow from UD, to lift the ramp and close the doors on the ark. On that one thing for sure, he is right.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


This is a beautiful and important rant!

While we can pray to God for the world.... that’s the problem... others have to find their path to God. You can’t ask for everyone. That’s not your job.

And there are sooooooooooo many lurkers. Please don’t think that you have not helped people. But remember that in the end that single person has to make their choices. These conversations are important.

And most importantly!!!

Friendships & Fellowships.

No one needs to believe in anyone’s God or spiritual or religion stuff to just be DAMN GOOD PEOPLE.

Do not bury yourself in guilt that you do not deserve.
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I'm comfortable with what I've done over the past 18 months. I repeatedly shared information with family, friends, and coworkers, trying to convince them how serious this was.

The end result was being asked to leave a company I worked at for 15 years and 90% of the people I shared with thinking I am a raving, paranoid lunatic. The other 10% are in positions to either independently confirm the information I put out or provide me with information which I then shared with GLP. I have disabled my FaceBook account and am no longer sharing information with anyone outside of this thread.

Anyone who refuses to take this seriously and take proper precautions by this point in time deserves whatever happens to them and I have no sympathy for any pain or death they might suffer due to their own ignorance.

My conscience is clean.
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Riff, I understand and actually agree with you to one point. I can't cut off my kids and my grands. Even though they're grown and live miles away, I'm still responsible for them. Even if they are sick, I will take them in. I know it's signing my own death warrant, but wth. I'm getting old and there doesn't seem to be a market for hugs from a gramma they haven't seen in 2 years.

They are the ONLY ones I will do that for, though.
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I understand that and don't fault you for it. However, it is (fortunately) a concern I don't have to worry about. Enjoy your hugs.
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Riff, I'm sorry. I remembered right as I hit post.

I'm an out of work gramma these days. We haven't seen any of them since Christmas, right before this nightmare started. No hugs anywhere these days. Can't even hug my neighbor kids anymore.

It's hard to be a hugger in a world where hugs are outlawed. There's a B sci-fi movie in there somewhere. Maybe a B slasher movie.
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Unidentified Noise Keeping Suitland Residents Up at Night

“It sounds kind of like a combination of a tornado siren and a spaceship taking off, like the siren from the ‘Purge’ movies,” resident Scott Bovarnick said.

People have complained about loud noises in the area of Prince George’s County on and off for years

[link to www.nbcwashington.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


bump

Wasn't there something similar reported LAST year in China or somewhere?

I think it ended up being the earth making the noise???

Oh man I will have to dig to find that...but I swear there was something exactly like this reported already in 2020.

Are they just recycling news at this point? I saw the Vit D levels thing earlier today....
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Let’s do the time warp again.
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Over half the deer tested in Michigan have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2

On Wednesday, the US Department of Agriculture released some rather disturbing news: a survey of wild deer populations has found that large numbers of the animals seem to have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The finding indicates that there's a very large population of wild animals in North America that could serve as a reservoir for the virus, even if we were to get its circulation within the human population under control.

[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


as RW pointed out the other day, how are the deer being infected? it is quite odd that it is so widespread in just 1 year. deer do not travel, and mingle as mush as humans. ain't driving around.

i'd like to see more spec's from the report. did they do 1 area and assume for the whole state? i doubt that but sill would like to see the info. couldn't find any the other day.

other than the hikers at state parks,ppl aren't out in the woods as much as before either. video games keep kids entertained instead. not many deer walk up and hug ppl either. for it to b so wide spread, it must b in more wildlife as well. racoons,skunks, feral cats,coyotes. so did it jump from garbage to wild dogs than to the deer? or from cats?

this does hint at some intel from UD way back.
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Short answer: They don't know. But they suspect it's a domestic animal that is transferring the virus to deer, not humans. Their samples were from multiple states. Illinois deer only tested 7% positive in their sample. Michigan deer - 60%.
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Remember last year when they found the virus in one of the Great Lakes?
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I was also thinking its in the water. Would explain the deer in Michigan, almost EVERY inland lake and river is used for recreation here. Most have swimming beaches and are in National Forest areas which are very heavy with deer populations. Especially up north at all the big vacation towns.

Would like to know WHERE in MI they were testing these deer!
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CC ain't u ever saw LAMPOON's famous buggout? what a movie it is.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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Ground Truth Report Indianapolis - J&J Vaccine vs. Delta Variant

Okay, I now have credible and specific evidence of vaccine fade over time, Delta variant breakthrough, or a combination of both.

Our neighbor received the J&J vaccine earlier this year. Don't remember when exactly, but it was prior to April.

Two weeks ago she got infected and diagnosed with the Delta variant of Covid, which she caught from a coworker who had just returned from Florida with a fever and sinus congestion. He was an anti-masker and insisted he just had a sinus infection.

Except he didn't.

Our neighbor has been off work for the past two weeks. Symptoms included headache, fever, and sinus congestion.

This is not theory or hyperbole. Either the vaccine loses its efficacy over time or the Delta variant has achieved some level of breakthrough. It is also possible that both conditions are occurring simultaneously.

I've been holding back on my opinion until I felt sure enough to say something, because I don't like to overreact. But I think it's time to acknowledge that we're going down this road again, and it's going to be worse this time around than it was in 2020.

Raffette and I are reviewing our supplies with the goal of approaching a one-year supply of non-perishables this time, rather than six months in the freezer and six months in the shelter. I'll also be restocking my gasoline supplies earlier than normal this year. I have refitted our P100 respirators with new filters and put them in our vehicles. We're going back to wearing masks in public places, mandate or no mandate.

Make your preparations and begin protecting yourself NOW, people. Seriously. We've barely scraped the surface of the rabbit hole so far.

Stay safe, everyone.
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UGH! I got my J&J in March! Mrs Spinalcracker has to work with the public, but is masking up at work. She never stopped. Looks like I am back to staying in and away from people for a while.

What do you think about boosters, Riff?
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Over half the deer tested in Michigan have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2

On Wednesday, the US Department of Agriculture released some rather disturbing news: a survey of wild deer populations has found that large numbers of the animals seem to have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The finding indicates that there's a very large population of wild animals in North America that could serve as a reservoir for the virus, even if we were to get its circulation within the human population under control.

[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
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as RW pointed out the other day, how are the deer being infected? it is quite odd that it is so widespread in just 1 year. deer do not travel, and mingle as mush as humans. ain't driving around.

i'd like to see more spec's from the report. did they do 1 area and assume for the whole state? i doubt that but sill would like to see the info. couldn't find any the other day.

other than the hikers at state parks,ppl aren't out in the woods as much as before either. video games keep kids entertained instead. not many deer walk up and hug ppl either. for it to b so wide spread, it must b in more wildlife as well. racoons,skunks, feral cats,coyotes. so did it jump from garbage to wild dogs than to the deer? or from cats?

this does hint at some intel from UD way back.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Short answer: They don't know. But they suspect it's a domestic animal that is transferring the virus to deer, not humans. Their samples were from multiple states. Illinois deer only tested 7% positive in their sample. Michigan deer - 60%.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Outdoor cats? From the fleas, like plague?
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Over half the deer tested in Michigan have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2

On Wednesday, the US Department of Agriculture released some rather disturbing news: a survey of wild deer populations has found that large numbers of the animals seem to have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The finding indicates that there's a very large population of wild animals in North America that could serve as a reservoir for the virus, even if we were to get its circulation within the human population under control.

[link to arstechnica.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


as RW pointed out the other day, how are the deer being infected? it is quite odd that it is so widespread in just 1 year. deer do not travel, and mingle as mush as humans. ain't driving around.

i'd like to see more spec's from the report. did they do 1 area and assume for the whole state? i doubt that but sill would like to see the info. couldn't find any the other day.

other than the hikers at state parks,ppl aren't out in the woods as much as before either. video games keep kids entertained instead. not many deer walk up and hug ppl either. for it to b so wide spread, it must b in more wildlife as well. racoons,skunks, feral cats,coyotes. so did it jump from garbage to wild dogs than to the deer? or from cats?

this does hint at some intel from UD way back.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Short answer: They don't know. But they suspect it's a domestic animal that is transferring the virus to deer, not humans. Their samples were from multiple states. Illinois deer only tested 7% positive in their sample. Michigan deer - 60%.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Outdoor cats? From the fleas, like plague?
 Quoting: SpinalCracker


How did the deer get infected with CJB (whatever the animal version is called)? I would think it'd be the same way now as it was back in the 90's.
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i really should do a show bout how things will b when chaos starts but i don't feel like it tonight. remind me in a day or 2.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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So I keep reading about these 'breakthrough' infections on Twitter....seeing lots of comments about people who were fully jabbed catch it but are fine after antibody treatment.

If the shots worked, they shouldn't need antibody treatment, right????

Won't that put pressure on it to mutate further?

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