The Dragon Legacy: The Secret History of an Ancient Bloodline

My Kingdom is Not of This World

Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg

Author of The Dragon Legacy: The Secret History of an Ancient Bloodline

Interview by Tracy R. Twyman


The monarchical system in Britain is, to the greatest extent, impotent, and so if one wanted real political power, the last place one would find it would be on the throne of England. We have no need for thrones or crowns to remind us of who we are.

Just as the work of Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln introduced the study of the "Grail bloodline" to the English-speaking world in the 1980s, so has the work of two individuals redefined the scope of this study in more recent years. But while the better-known Laurence Gardner has received fame, fortune, accolades, and numerous book contracts as a reward for his work, a lesser-known figure has lurked quietly in the shadows up until the present.

As the Sovereign Grand Master of the Imperial and Royal Dragon Court and Order, Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg provided the inspiration, the research, and a hefty portion of the writing for Gardner´s Genesis of the Grail Kings and Realm of the Ring Lords. Yet amazingly, de Vere is not listed as co-author on many editions of Genesis, and receives no credit at all in Ring Lords. Both of these books, credited to Laurence Gardner, are based almost entirely upon the text From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells, by Nicholas de Vere, recently published by The Book Tree under the title The Dragon Legacy.

But there is much in the original de Vere text that is not to be found in the Gardner version, and there is an authenticity to de Vere´s work, derived from the fact that he is the true inheritor and guardian of this tradition - the Dragon tradition, also known as the Grail tradition. De Vere has spent two decades delving into history, mythology, science, religion, and his own family archives to compile what is perhaps the most extensive and insightful text upon this subject ever published. What de Vere has come up with is enough to comprise not just another pop culture craze, but an entirely new theology, with a new philosophy and politics as well.

Clearly de Vere is not out to get rich or be popular, as he has already forgone numerous opportunities to obtain both. Writing about an elite genetic strain of humanity that descends from a super-human race, and which possesses abilities inaccessible to those outside of that strain, is not exactly a ticket to universal adulation. To the contrary, de Vere´s assertions regarding the elite status of the Dragon bloodline have branded him completely anathema to the Wiccan and New Age communities who would otherwise be among those most open to his message. Which begs the question: why has Nicholas de Vere spent the last twenty years of his life on this monumental task, and why does he continue to do so?

In addition to his groundbreaking work as a researcher and author, de Vere serves as the head of an elite occult order with origins stretching back to the Knights Templar, and he holds a potential claim to several important royal titles. This, some have supposed, is the real motivation behind his work. Some believe that de Vere wants to be the King of England or France, an assertion that he flatly denies. Others see in de Vere a candidate for nothing less than the anti-Christ himself, and see in the Dragon Court an international Satanic conspiracy somewhere on a level between the Ordo Templi Orientis and the Bilderberg Group. But while it is true that, when the Great Dragon of Revelation does emerge to take hold of the world, he will undoubtedly be of the Dragon blood, and may even be a member of the Court, Prince Nicholas de Vere is certainly not he.

As I am sure he would humbly admit himself, de Vere´s mission is simply to prepare the way for He who is yet to come. Listen, then, dear readers, to the interesting and powerful message of Nicholas de Vere.

TT: How long ago did you write The Dragon Legacy?

NDV: About six years ago. The Dragon Legacy was known on the net as From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells and this was a summary of years of research and reflection. Some of it appeared in Laurence Gardner´s Genesis of the Grail Kings and then after I published it on the web, Laurence based his third book Realm of the Ring Lords largely on what I had already published.

TT: What were your main sources of information when compiling the book?

NDV: On the so-called Dragon "path" one is imbued hereditarily with Dragon capabilities in varying measures. As one progresses these capabilities wax and wane according to necessity. One of the main capacities is the Derkesthai Process, in which information is "channeled" through the conduit of the Dragon archetype; specifically the racial consciousness of those of the Dragon blood. Through this process one may pick up naturally, all sorts of information relating to varied aspects of the Dragon Tradition in its many branches and manifestations. However, this is of no use intellectually and rationally without informed academic confirmation and corroboration.

To this end, another Dragon capacity is to be able to obtain after the fact those confirmations required. I anticipated works before I read them, either through meditation or through experience on the Dragon Path. In a not too dissimilar manner Kerkule discovered the "Bezine Ring."

I would say that the serious academic backbone of The Dragon Legacy in terms of corroboration and confirmation, lies in the work of Dr. David Barker; George Woodcock; Lysander Spooner; Professor Miranda Green; Pierre Proudhon; Professors Pierpaoli and Regelson; David Anderson; The Oxford English Dictionary and an old associate Mr. C. Murray Hall M.A. (Lecturer in Barbarian Cultures: Sussex University).

TT: How did you begin research into your family history? At what point in your life did you become aware of "the Dragon legacy" in your family? Is it something you grew up with?

NDV: From the age of seven onwards my father told me about our ancestry, an ancestry steeped in royal blood and most significantly of all, in what is termed Royal Witchcraft, which is a major, ancient, draconian, druidic facet continuing within the later history of the Dragon tradition and within the Vere family.

My father educated me about our particular origins in the royal and noble Blackwood family of Lanark, Scotland. This dynasty sired the most significant practitioner of the Dragon tradition in his time: Major Thomas Weir of Vere of Edinburgh, my 11th great grandfather.

As a witch lord and the prince consort to the elven queen of the Lallan, Thomas performed the ancient Gaelic rites of the sacred kingship of Epona, and consequently founded this rite of kingship within my lineage. So I received the tradition at an early age from my father and he received it from his father, and so on.

TT: Your formal title is "Prince Nicholas de Vere." What does this title imply?

NDV: I trace my lineage back in an unbroken bloodline to the imperial prince Milo de Vere, Count of Anjou in 740 A.D., son of Princess Milouziana of the Scythians. She was recorded throughout France as being the Elven, Dragon Princess of the Scottish Picts, and her Grandson, Milo II, derived his Merovingian descent through his father´s marital alliance with the imperial house of Charlene.

Later in history we picked up numerous other lines of Merovingian descent and the attitude in the house of Vere today, both here and in Ireland, reflects that of the Merovingians themselves where inheritance and blood descent is concerned.

Concerning my maternal lineage: my mother is descended from the ancient Collison Jarls of Norfolk, and is the third cousin of the head of the House of Vere. We are a very tightly knit family. The head of the House himself is of Royal Collison descent and this matrilinear Collison extraction also stems from the ancient House of Vere and Princess Milouziana of the Scythians. We are Veres on all sides of the family.

The overall head of the House of Vere today is the Prince Mhaior. By Papal Investiture and by inheritance from the House of the royal O´Brien descendants of King Brian Boru of Tara, the Prince Mhaior is himself an Archduke - not an insignificant Irish earl, as some totally ill-informed malcontent once triumphantly proclaimed in a ridiculous, failed attempt at an exposé of me.

The Head of the House formally addresses me as "the Dragon Prince" of the House of Vere.

TT: Who are the "Dragons" that you write about in your book?

NDV: In brief, the recorded Dragon lineage starts with the Annunaki and descends through the proto-Scythians, the Sumerians in one branch and the early Egyptians in another; the Phoenicians, the Mittani, back to the Scythians again through marital alliance, along to the "Tuatha de Danaan" and the Fir Bolg; down through their Arch-Druidic, Priest-Princely families, to the Royal Picts of Scotland and the high kings of the Horse Lords of Dal Riada; through to the Elven dynasty of Pendragon and Avallon del Acqs, and down to a few pure bred families today.

TT: Were the Dragons originally a separate species from what we would call "human"?

NDV: Dragon tradition related to all the current genetic and historical evidence says yes they were. Both relatively recent and ancient accounts of Dragons or Elves going back to the Annunaki speak of them as having clearly distinct physical attributes, and these attributes are inherited from a species that scientists now assert preceded the human genetic bottleneck by about thirty thousand years. These attributes are not human in the accepted sense. Whether this ancient race was hybridised with another before history is anybody´s guess, but their later hybridisation to produce the Elven God-Kings and Ring Lords (the King Tribe), is clearly recorded in the Cylinder Rolls.

TT: Are these Dragons the same as the "Nephilim" of the Bible or the "Watchers" of The Book of Enoch?

NDV: The Nephilim and the Watchers are of the Dragon race, yes.

TT: Were the gods of ancient cultures (Greece, India, Sumeria, etc.) Dragons?

NDV: These pantheons are derived from one another so again the answer in simplistic terms is yes.

TT: What kind of civilization did the Dragons reign over? Would you say that it was the same as the Atlantean or antediluvian civilization?

NDV: The Platonic Atlantis theory is preceded by a much older tradition relating to the "Ogdoad." The Ogdoad, sacred to Jesus himself, were the eight great Gods who raked the Sacred Mountain - "Atlantis" - after the original Flood. This Flood occurred in the Black Sea and the Sacred Mountain, so inundated, was believed to be the Pontus Euxine. Apparently the Ogdoad failed in their attempt to bring fertility back to the Holy Place and abandoned it for a life wandering the planet. This is probably why the legend of the Flood spread and can be found in most cultures.

The Ogdoad turn up in Chinese myth, in early Egyptian religious texts, and even in much later Viking legend, where the gods of the Aesir were said to have abandoned the Sacred Mountain after the Flood. From the Ogdoad, who were the first Dragon god-kings of ancient proto-Scythia, we obtain the gods of the Anunnaki, and those later pantheons that derived from them. It is not to be doubted that after the Flood the children of the Anunnaki had established incredible civilisations in their time, so I suppose you could say that the cultures of the Sumerians (whose language, termed "proto-Sumerian", originated in Transylvania), the Egyptians and even the early settlers in northern Europe stemmed from and reflect an antediluvian prototype, a much older pre-Flood "Golden Age" presided over by the ancient Dragon god-kings and goddess-queens. The mistake would be to put the Atlantean period too far back in time and to locate Atlantis where Plato did. Scientists have proved the Biblical Flood to be in the Black Sea and this region is where most of the Titanic and Olympian sagas, associated with the Dawn of the Gods, unfold.

TT: Is Dragon blood the true source of divine right kingship, in your opinion? Are the Dragons the rightful rulers of the world´s governments?

NDV: Anciently Dragon blood, the blood of the gods, is the true source of divine right kingship. To say that Dragons are the rightful rulers of the world´s governments today might raise some contention. Perhaps it would be more realistic to suggest that they may well be the rightful rulers of the world´s governments in the future.

TT: When you refer metaphorically to "the Dragon", what exactly are you referring to?

"The Dragon" is a term I use generally to mean the dragon archetype resting within the Dragon blood and passed on through the genes. It is the conduit through which flow the memories of the wisdom and experience of the Dragons who have gone before. The word "dragon" is derived from the Greek "edrakon", which is an aorist of the word "derkesthai", which means "to see clearly". "The Dragon" therefore is the inherited Dragon archetype and that archetype is the conduit of clear sight through which racial knowledge flows. Clear sight also and principally refers to transcendent consciousness.

TT: What percentage of the world´s populace would you say possesses this Dragon blood? Is it predominately found in certain types of people? How can you tell a Dragon from other types of people?

NDV: Roughly ten percent of Europeans have Dragon blood, and stem from families whose physical attributes clearly point to a genetic inheritance over 100,000 years old. This figure is calculated from research deriving from studies by Oxford University and matched to historical accounts.

TT: How did the Dragon race begin, and how did they become a separate race from the rest of humanity?

NDV: They didn´t originate from outer space, that´s for sure. A principal element of the Dragon genome originated in the vast forests of central Europe, and cut off from other species, they developed as a distinct race. By the time of the Anunnaki they had been hybridized to form the ancestors of the later Elves or Dragon kings and queens.

TT: Did dragons possess "magical" powers? If so, do their descendants possess them as well?

NDV: It depends what you mean by "magical." The greatest magic of all is to be able to naturally still one´s mind to the point where one sees that "all acts are magical acts." As a natural course of events stemming from transcendent perception, certain facilities are within the grasp of Dragons. These abilities, though they vary, are hereditary.

TT: Your former co-author Laurence Gardner writes a lot about "starfire" and the power of pineal secretions, which are portrayed as being analogous to the Elixir of Life or Philosopher´s Stone, bestowing increased brain capacity, magical ability, and prolonged life upon he who consumes it. These are elements that he clearly picked up from your research. In your writing, you claim that people of "Dragon blood" are the only ones bio-chemically equipped to produce these substances in their own bodies at a high enough level to yield results. But Gardner has written much about this so-called "monatomic gold", and seems to think that this is a synthetic substitute for "starfire" which ordinary people can consume to become Dragons themselves. Do you know anything about this substance? What is your comment on Mr. Gardner´s theories?

NDV: Firstly the physical, hormonal elements of Starfire are only one side of the story, and in my book I clearly state that the whole process contains several other "psycho-somatic" elements, not least that pertaining to relationship.

As for being able to pop a pill to become a Dragon, this kind of stupid New Age attitude stems from the ridiculous, totally indefensible greed-driven free market assertion that anyone can become anything they choose, and the totally unfounded PC notion that everyone is equal.

This kind of pathetic liberalism, born as a reaction to the socially inculcated victim mentality, should be abhorred by all rational beings, and so my attitude towards the concept of monatomic gold as a great social leveler and equalizer is one of contempt.

However, you don´t make lots of money by telling the bulk of your readership that they are genetically excluded from a process they cannot experience or understand; you sell New Age drivel by telling the ingenuous that they can all assume any role they like, and adopt any trendy "lifestyle" choice that whim and deceitful advertising dictates. As you know, I don´t write to make money, so I don´t care who I offend with the truth. Can I pop a pill to turn me into a black African Masai warrior? No. Is there a powder I can take to change me into a woman? Of course not. I don´t see the need for monatomic gold myself. "Starfire" and the Seraphic relationship worked perfectly well for me, and in any case you are either genetically a Dragon or you are not, and no amount of monatomic gold is going to change your genetic makeup.

TT: What was the original meaning and purpose of vampirism?

NDV: Vampire stems from the word "vber" or "uber", and means "witch." It originates in Anatolia; the location of the seven yearly Druidic gatherings: the Nemetons. "Witch" in Gaelic is "Druidhe", or "druid." In practical terms and suggested by the term "uber" itself, a Scythian druid was an overlord, and so originally a vampire was an overlord, and hence a Dragon.

The purpose of vampirism depends on the type of vampirism practiced. Starfire was the purpose of "royal" or druidic vampirism in the ancient Scythian families, and in Scythian "warrior" vampirism, drinking the blood of fallen brothers in battle was intended to take their essence and bravery into the recipient. The blood of vanquished foes was also drunk. In both cases this also had the advantage of topping up one´s adrenaline and testosterone levels in the heat of conflict. The folklore image of the vampire in Europe stems from this historical root. Vampirism was an integral part of Scythian/Dragon life.

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