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TEXAS ORDERED by Dept of Energy - NOT MAKE MORE POWER! | |
FlashBuzzkill
 User ID: 79656540  United States02/19/2021 04:55 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Dollar Bill Wick
User ID: 76091424 02/19/2021 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this is why Texans are being billed thousands. I see a major lawsuit. How could Texans know this information is there was no power in the first place. Please GOD let this blow up in their FACE! Quoting: Cebeij (i) with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource or Settlement Only Generator whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is unable, or expected to be unable, to produce at its maximum output due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, ERCOT shall ensure that such Specified Resource is only allowed to exceed any such limit during a period for which ERCOT has declared an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operation within its permitted limits; and (ii) with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is offline or would need to go offline due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, and to which ERCOT has issued a Reliability Unit Commitment (RUC) instruction, the operator may make all of the unit’s capacity available to ERCOT for dispatch during a period for which ERCOT has declared an EEA Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operating at a level below the higher of its minimum operating level or the maximum output allowable under the permitted limit Our DOJ and all seventeen agencies are corrupt. There is no one to care in our government. The FBI is the new KGB. How do you say "KGB" in Mandarin?   Say it in English like they taught you at spy skool, chin.  Freelance Superhero with only a minor personality disorder. All my other personalities are just fine, thanks. Ignore him, no we aren't. Question: "What is the most important thing in your life?" Answer: "NOT BEING STUPID" - Jordan Peterson |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78148434 Germany02/19/2021 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80066405 Our DOJ and all seventeen agencies are corrupt. There is no one to care in our government. The FBI is the new KGB. How do you say "KGB" in Mandarin? :bidenmao: Say it in English like they taught you at spy skool, chin. :rere23: |
| Splinterhead72
User ID: 74470288 United States02/19/2021 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gov't is acting like Enron. Want the price HIGH. Quoting: Rainbow7 Texas should ignore and push the price of Electricity Mega low by over producing. They can't produce enough for themselves einstein. Obviously you did not read the document. They won't let them produce more than 20% of the lowest minimum. They were throttled, by the DOE for environmental reasons. 'Green New Deal' strike a chord. Sounds like an Administration agenda to me. The Left loves using government agencies to carry out their punishment for opposing or questioning their power. Like the irs... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78148434 Germany02/19/2021 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the federal gov demanded they shut down the power without warning during the coldest period ever recorded in TX history to prevent carbon emissions? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78061832 And then they went ahead and did it. Wow!! People died because of that, now what  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79324350 United States02/19/2021 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are dying and they are worried about our carbon footprint? How about a big ole Texas Go Fuck Yourself? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill There are currently no federal CO2 emission limits that would effect this situation. They need every megawatt they can get, the few plants that are operational can get another 2% or 5% more output by exceeding their emission limits that's what this is about. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24623919 United States02/19/2021 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lawyer jargon is real. This will confuse most of the plebs. Literally have to ask permission to use more energy and get approval from DoE. Spooks got caught red handed. Now what? Quoting: Cebeij They would not need to exceed emission limits if the gas wells didn't freeze up shutting down a bunch of plants requiring what generation is left to run balls to the wall. Every power plant in the country has emission limits and things worked just fine for the past 51 years since the first iteration of the clean air act. It's really simple... engineers didn't think it would get this cold for this long, and they were wrong. It happens from time to time. A month ago if your power company said they needed to raise your rates by 20% to freezeproof everything you would have made angry threads about that. That's not nearly the whole story you douchenozzle |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78686355 02/19/2021 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | f so many people wouldn't insist on owning cheaply built Texas McMansions that are 4000 sq ft or more for two people, there would be more power for everybody. These homes need to be designed with split HVACs, with one on a backup generator so when this happens, winter or summer, a family can all pile into one room and still fucntion. All new luxery homes should also have the newest solar tech wrapped into the price. I was so gratefull to have a ranch home as well, fewer issues all around, so much easiler to maintain. After this event second floor bathrooms and kitchens or wet bars won't be so appealing unless they are fully built to withstand extreme situations. The way some of those homes are designed was really stupid, no regard at all for extreme weather events. They do better in Oklahoma where new subdivisions, even out in rural areas are now all buried cables, and many people have fully equipped bug out shelters. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78148434 Germany02/19/2021 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abbott is not in a position to say shit the state national guard can by force turn the power on. You want to talk about another insurrection? I sure hope you “hardasses” pull another shitshow like 1/6/21. It would be great if the Texass GOP could be implicated. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 38907753 United States02/19/2021 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the state national guard can by force turn the power on. You want to talk about another insurrection? I sure hope you “hardasses” pull another shitshow like 1/6/21. It would be great if the Texass GOP could be implicated. the only way the power goes back on. |
| Sal Monella User ID: 78450007 United States02/19/2021 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What did Trump ever do for Texas? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49598504 Nothing. And AOC has already raised millions. Really? Trump did more for Tejas than any other POTUS. He unleashed the energy resources Tejas has and made them rich while you enjoyed cheap gas prices. Why is your head still up your ass? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78148434 Germany02/19/2021 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are may advantages to living in a small or even tiny space! I have 1300 sq ft and that seems to big most of the time for one, legally 4 people can occupy my home. I Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78686355 f so many people wouldn't insist on owning cheaply built Texas McMansions that are 4000 sq ft or more for two people, there would be more power for everybody. These homes need to be designed with split HVACs, with one on a backup generator so when this happens, winter or summer, a family can all pile into one room and still fucntion. All new luxery homes should also have the newest solar tech wrapped into the price. I was so gratefull to have a ranch home as well, fewer issues all around, so much easiler to maintain. After this event second floor bathrooms and kitchens or wet bars won't be so appealing unless they are fully built to withstand extreme situations. The way some of those homes are designed was really stupid, no regard at all for extreme weather events. They do better in Oklahoma where new subdivisions, even out in rural areas are now all buried cables, and many people have fully equipped bug out shelters. Especially in The Metroplex, they throw those homes up to the quality of Jim Walter Homes, or worse. Even high end, unbelievable. The Textards lap them up |
| Splinterhead72
User ID: 74470288 United States02/19/2021 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lawyer jargon is real. This will confuse most of the plebs. Literally have to ask permission to use more energy and get approval from DoE. Spooks got caught red handed. Now what? Quoting: Cebeij They would not need to exceed emission limits if the gas wells didn't freeze up shutting down a bunch of plants requiring what generation is left to run balls to the wall. Every power plant in the country has emission limits and things worked just fine for the past 51 years since the first iteration of the clean air act. It's really simple... engineers didn't think it would get this cold for this long, and they were wrong. It happens from time to time. A month ago if your power company said they needed to raise your rates by 20% to freezeproof everything you would have made angry threads about that. That's not nearly the whole story you douchenozzle   |
| TN_Dan
User ID: 8850410 United States02/19/2021 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For what it’s worth, currently awaiting my utility bill. If it’s what I’m hearing, will be contacting an attorney! Were you notified by anything that your bill would skyrocket? That if you use the power it would be $1,500/MWh. Comes out to $1.50 per Kilowatt hour. That's like 15 times higher than your average bill. Sickening! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9616692 United States02/19/2021 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Feds not going to like it much when we tell them to fk off. Quoting: ChIcKeN_NoOdlE Texas energy is not under federal control. The state reserves that right for texas under the constitution. THAT is how Texas got into this problem to begin with. Texans CHOSE to NOT design their power plants and grid to the National Standards that in EVERY OTHER STATE they are designed to. In 2011 there was another Cold Weather Event in Texas and 3.5 million Texans lost their power because the Texas Grid could not cope with the cold weather. The FERC came in, reviewed what happened, and recommended that Texas upgrade their system to WHAT EVERY OTHER SYSTEM followed (yep including warm Florida). Unlike elsewhere the FERC could NOT mandate those changes, only recommend them. Texas being run by Texans said FUCK OFF ... and wouldn't and didn't ... so it was only a matter of TIME, NOT "IF" the Texas Grid would FAIL AGAIN! due to mother nature doing what mother nature what it does every now and then, get cold (2011, 1989, plus many other times in Texas's past) WHO made money by Texans ignoring the standards that every other state had to follow? The BIG MONEY people in Texas. Who got hurt? The average Joe many of whom now face large both large repair bills but also for some extremely high electric bills. Here is the FERC report and recommendations after the 2011 Texas Grid Collaps caused by cold weather: ---------------------------------------- Report on Outages and Curtailments During the Southwest Cold Weather Event of February 1-5, 2011 [link to www.ferc.gov (secure)] Umm...  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78148434 Germany02/19/2021 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What did Trump ever do for Texas? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49598504 Nothing. And AOC has already raised millions. Really? Trump did more for Tejas than any other POTUS. He unleashed the energy resources Tejas has and made them rich while you enjoyed cheap gas prices. Why is your head still up your ass? Bullshit! The Texass Energy Sector cratered under Trump. Been to Houston? All those corps cleaned out. Dumbass |
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| Claim Jumper
User ID: 79782800 United States02/19/2021 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I keep hearing this kind of bravado talk, but I never see anything come of it. Saw a lot of this toward the end of Trumps term. I feel like a lot of you actually believe your fellow citizens are gonna band together and fight for whats right. Look around you. Any of your neighbors making moves? Didn’t think so. Don’t get mad at me. Just pointing out that you should take another look at your fellow citizens and realize we aint standing up for nothing! 3 people can keep a secret. If 2 of them are dead. |
| Cebeij
(OP) User ID: 79139877 United States02/19/2021 05:38 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I keep hearing this kind of bravado talk, but I never see anything come of it. Saw a lot of this toward the end of Trumps term. I feel like a lot of you actually believe your fellow citizens are gonna band together and fight for whats right. Look around you. Any of your neighbors making moves? Didn’t think so. Don’t get mad at me. Just pointing out that you should take another look at your fellow citizens and realize we aint standing up for nothing! if you see ppl with masks on. you know then. |
| Sal Monella User ID: 78450007 United States02/19/2021 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What did Trump ever do for Texas? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49598504 Nothing. And AOC has already raised millions. Really? Trump did more for Tejas than any other POTUS. He unleashed the energy resources Tejas has and made them rich while you enjoyed cheap gas prices. Why is your head still up your ass? Bullshit! The Texass Energy Sector cratered under Trump. Been to Houston? All those corps cleaned out. Dumbass How many companies have moved to Tejas? Do you think they would have if they would have known that there is an emissions cap on producing energy under force majeure. The state can manage without income tax levied on it's citizens. Why did NMP Biden wait 6 days to call the Guv of Tejas? |
