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TEXAS ORDERED by Dept of Energy - NOT MAKE MORE POWER!

 
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And this is why Texans are being billed thousands. I see a major lawsuit. How could Texans know this information is there was no power in the first place. Please GOD let this blow up in their FACE!

(i) with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource or Settlement Only Generator whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is unable, or expected to be unable, to produce at its maximum output due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, ERCOT shall ensure that such Specified Resource is only allowed to exceed any such limit during a period for which ERCOT has declared an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operation within its permitted limits; and


(ii) with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is offline or would need to go offline due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, and to which ERCOT has issued a Reliability Unit Commitment (RUC) instruction, the operator may make all of the unit’s capacity available to ERCOT for dispatch during a period for which ERCOT has declared an EEA Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operating at a level below the higher of its minimum operating level or the maximum output allowable under the permitted limit
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Our DOJ and all seventeen agencies are corrupt.

There is no one to care in our government.

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Gov't is acting like Enron. Want the price HIGH.

Texas should ignore and push the price of Electricity Mega low by over producing.
 Quoting: Rainbow7


They can't produce enough for themselves einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74782971


They have been ordered to cut output by the Feds. Pay attention please.

They went over the max allowed due to FEDERAL EMISSIONS REGULATIONS and the FEDS want them to cut back now.

KEEP PRODUCING TEXAS AND DRIVE THE PRICE DOWN!

Last Edited by Rainbow7 on 02/19/2021 04:18 PM
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After this event flexit would be nice too
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Gov't is acting like Enron. Want the price HIGH.

Texas should ignore and push the price of Electricity Mega low by over producing.
 Quoting: Rainbow7


They can't produce enough for themselves einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74782971


Obviously you did not read the document.

They won't let them produce more than 20% of the lowest minimum.

They were throttled, by the DOE for environmental reasons.

'Green New Deal' strike a chord. Sounds like an Administration agenda to me.
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Gov't is acting like Enron. Want the price HIGH.

Texas should ignore and push the price of Electricity Mega low by over producing.
 Quoting: Rainbow7


They can't produce enough for themselves einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74782971


Obviously you did not read the document.

They won't let them produce more than 20% of the lowest minimum.

They were throttled, by the DOE for environmental reasons.

'Green New Deal' strike a chord. Sounds like an Administration agenda to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78211251


Order from the WH.
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MESS WITH TEXAS!
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Re: TEXAS ORDERED by Dept of Energy - NOT MAKE MORE POWER!
Gov't is acting like Enron. Want the price HIGH.

Texas should ignore and push the price of Electricity Mega low by over producing.
 Quoting: Rainbow7


They can't produce enough for themselves einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74782971


Obviously you did not read the document.

They won't let them produce more than 20% of the lowest minimum.

They were throttled, by the DOE for environmental reasons.

'Green New Deal' strike a chord. Sounds like an Administration agenda to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78211251


The Left loves using government agencies to carry out their punishment for opposing or questioning their power.
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execute ercot.line them up and put bullets in their heads.
dont miss a single secretary or janitor.cull them all!
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its not ERCOT as much as its the Department of Energy.
 Quoting: Cebeij


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doe is ran by president.own this china joe,own every death!
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Is he holding your space key off line too creating an artificial shortage?

Did they mistake capitals for capitols and take them too ??
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ERCOT has been alerted that numerous generation units will be unable to operate at full capacity without violating federal air quality or other permit limitations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80052552


Texans ALSO hate having to put Pollution Control equipment on their power plants ... the stuff that other Utilities across the entire country put on their plants as a matter of course.

If there is a way to make power cheap ... enriching the insiders while screwing the Average Joe ... well rich Texans will do it.

On a side note I really have to wonder WHY Texans have to pay so much for Electricty particularly with so much natural gas around. I live up in snow and ice country with NO hydro, and here it costs about 5 cents per kwh for the electricity plus a 5 cent or so per kwh "delivery charge" for a total charge of about 10 cents/kwh. (some sellers of electricity are selling it for closer to 3.5 cents per kwh but I like a fixed rate vs variable rate)

My one son who lives in the next city over is paying just under 7 cents/kwh, including the delivery charge for fixed rate electricity.
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...


That's not what your mom said last night...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78321818


She has been gone for a few years, but she always hated Texass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79410544


Gone as in dead? Spooky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79696653


She was out of your world, when living. Besides, she had her teeth, unlike yours, who could really gobble a goober
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Sounds charming.
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Re: TEXAS ORDERED by Dept of Energy - NOT MAKE MORE POWER!
This is what happens when you capitulate to the forces of communism.

sorry
Anonymous Coward
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02/19/2021 04:29 PM
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In the UK we put cables under the ground.
No snow snaping cables.
Not cars+ knoking post down.
So safe! WHY dont you do it in usa?
oh yes you like to spend money on it.
so you can all get big bills.
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Arent you Texan cowboys?

cowboys dont need electricity or grocery stores.
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I am Texan. No. I am not a cowboy.
All this has happened before, and will happen again.
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FUCK BIDEN
 Quoting: whatsupman21



For what it’s worth, currently awaiting my utility bill.

If it’s what I’m hearing, will be contacting an attorney!
Cebeij  (OP)

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02/19/2021 04:38 PM

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 Quoting: Cebeij


FUCK BIDEN
 Quoting: whatsupman21



For what it’s worth, currently awaiting my utility bill.

If it’s what I’m hearing, will be contacting an attorney!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79957620


Were you notified by anything that your bill would skyrocket? That if you use the power it would be $1,500/MWh.

Last Edited by Cebeij on 02/19/2021 04:39 PM
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"This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh."

The normal TX price recently has been under $1,200/MWh

So these restrictions would screw with the normal functioning of the price signals.
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02/19/2021 04:41 PM
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 Quoting: Cebeij


FUCK BIDEN
 Quoting: whatsupman21



For what it’s worth, currently awaiting my utility bill.

If it’s what I’m hearing, will be contacting an attorney!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79957620


Were you notified by anything that your bill would skyrocket? That if you use the power it would be $1,500/MWh.
 Quoting: Cebeij


Obama notified everyone in 2008. They still voted for him. Biden agenda will be no different.
PJ
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This is what happens when you capitulate to the forces of communism.

sorry
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000hN00mrbill

Maybe Cancun Cruz can save us as he battles from Camp Cabo?
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FUCK BIDEN
 Quoting: whatsupman21



For what it’s worth, currently awaiting my utility bill.

If it’s what I’m hearing, will be contacting an attorney!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79957620


Were you notified by anything that your bill would skyrocket? That if you use the power it would be $1,500/MWh.
 Quoting: Cebeij


Obama notified everyone in 2008. They still voted for him. Biden agenda will be no different.
 Quoting: PBJ11


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What are ya gonna do about all this
TEXAS

write a strongly worded letter to your representative ?
Where B kath C
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Re: TEXAS ORDERED by Dept of Energy - NOT MAKE MORE POWER!
Gov't is acting like Enron. Want the price HIGH.

Texas should ignore and push the price of Electricity Mega low by over producing.
 Quoting: Rainbow7


They can't produce enough for themselves einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74782971


Obviously you did not read the document.

They won't let them produce more than 20% of the lowest minimum.

They were throttled, by the DOE for environmental reasons.

'Green New Deal' strike a chord. Sounds like an Administration agenda to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78211251


The Left loves using government agencies to carry out their punishment for opposing or questioning their power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78211251


butthurt9
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The lawyer jargon is real. This will confuse most of the plebs. Literally have to ask permission to use more energy and get approval from DoE. Spooks got caught red handed. Now what?
 Quoting: Cebeij


They would not need to exceed emission limits if the gas wells didn't freeze up shutting down a bunch of plants requiring what generation is left to run balls to the wall.

Every power plant in the country has emission limits and things worked just fine for the past 51 years since the first iteration of the clean air act.

It's really simple... engineers didn't think it would get this cold for this long, and they were wrong. It happens from time to time.

A month ago if your power company said they needed to raise your rates by 20% to freezeproof everything you would have made angry threads about that.
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Are you sure they froze or is that the story being told?
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all the suffering they can put us through

is what they want
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100%

This is just the beginning
If it isn't in The Bible then it is just conspiracy theory.
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And this is why Texans are being billed thousands. I see a major lawsuit. How could Texans know this information is there was no power in the first place. Please GOD let this blow up in their FACE!

(i) with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource or Settlement Only Generator whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is unable, or expected to be unable, to produce at its maximum output due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, ERCOT shall ensure that such Specified Resource is only allowed to exceed any such limit during a period for which ERCOT has declared an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operation within its permitted limits; and


(ii) with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is offline or would need to go offline due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, and to which ERCOT has issued a Reliability Unit Commitment (RUC) instruction, the operator may make all of the unit’s capacity available to ERCOT for dispatch during a period for which ERCOT has declared an EEA Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operating at a level below the higher of its minimum operating level or the maximum output allowable under the permitted limit
 Quoting: Cebeij


Our DOJ and all seventeen agencies are corrupt.

There is no one to care in our government.

The FBI is the new KGB.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80066405


How do you say "KGB" in Mandarin?
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What are ya gonna do about all this
TEXAS

write a strongly worded letter to your representative ?
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They are going to hound Mark Cuban about the National Anthem
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Re: TEXAS ORDERED by Dept of Energy - NOT MAKE MORE POWER!
Arent you Texan cowboys?

cowboys dont need electricity or grocery stores.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77055715


I am Texan. No. I am not a cowboy.
 Quoting: Battlestar Texas


horn BOOO!
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Re: TEXAS ORDERED by Dept of Energy - NOT MAKE MORE POWER!
And this is why Texans are being billed thousands. I see a major lawsuit. How could Texans know this information is there was no power in the first place. Please GOD let this blow up in their FACE!

(i) with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource or Settlement Only Generator whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is unable, or expected to be unable, to produce at its maximum output due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, ERCOT shall ensure that such Specified Resource is only allowed to exceed any such limit during a period for which ERCOT has declared an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operation within its permitted limits; and


(ii) with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is offline or would need to go offline due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, and to which ERCOT has issued a Reliability Unit Commitment (RUC) instruction, the operator may make all of the unit’s capacity available to ERCOT for dispatch during a period for which ERCOT has declared an EEA Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operating at a level below the higher of its minimum operating level or the maximum output allowable under the permitted limit
 Quoting: Cebeij


Our DOJ and all seventeen agencies are corrupt.

There is no one to care in our government.

The FBI is the new KGB.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80066405


How do you say "KGB" in Mandarin?
:bidenmao:
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specialstupid
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What are ya gonna do about all this
TEXAS

write a strongly worded letter to your representative ?
 Quoting: 4th iteration


Protest next Jan 6!
What can go wrong?!
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GREEN NEW DEAL mofos





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