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If enlightenment is real, if a person who reaches it knows all things then we have an interesting situation. An enlightened person would know the nature of reality in other words an enlightened person would know advanced physics. Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago. That means the most advanced physics (more advanced even then our current public level) was known to humans many, many thousands of years ago. If that enlightened human passed their knowledge on to successors then we can say that there are possibly groups on this planet that have been guardians to this advanced knowledge for several thousands of years (assuming that they hold on to it). Such knowledge could possibly be dangerous in the wrong hands so they would opt for an oath of secretary punishable by death.
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Can't put the genie back in the bottle...We live in the age of information...
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If enlightenment is real, if a person who reaches it knows all things then we have an interesting situation. An enlightened person would know the nature of reality in other words an enlightened person would know advanced physics. Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago. That means the most advanced physics (more advanced even then our current public level) was known to humans many, many thousands of years ago. If that enlightened human passed their knowledge on to successors then we can say that there are possibly groups on this planet that have been guardians to this advanced knowledge for several thousands of years (assuming that they hold on to it). Such knowledge could possibly be dangerous in the wrong hands so they would opt for an oath of secretary punishable by death.
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such knowledge cannot be dangerous in the wrong hands cause those with the wrong hands could never ever reach the state of enlightenment needed to use it :)
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Change advanced physics to the word consciousness and then go from there.
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Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago.
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Bro, you skipped over whether or not anyone has truly met your definition of enlightenment.

Your presupposition about what enlightenment is, would be no small feat for even highly advanced cultures.
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Change advanced physics to the word consciousness and then go from there.
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The only thing faster than light, and allows the "spooky action at a distance" Einstein referred to, on the propensity of light...
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If enlightenment is real, if a person who reaches it knows all things then we have an interesting situation. An enlightened person would know the nature of reality in other words an enlightened person would know advanced physics. Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago. That means the most advanced physics (more advanced even then our current public level) was known to humans many, many thousands of years ago. If that enlightened human passed their knowledge on to successors then we can say that there are possibly groups on this planet that have been guardians to this advanced knowledge for several thousands of years (assuming that they hold on to it). Such knowledge could possibly be dangerous in the wrong hands so they would opt for an oath of secretary punishable by death.
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such knowledge cannot be dangerous in the wrong hands cause those with the wrong hands could never ever reach the state of enlightenment needed to use it :)
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If enlightenment is real, if a person who reaches it knows all things then we have an interesting situation. An enlightened person would know the nature of reality in other words an enlightened person would know advanced physics. Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago. That means the most advanced physics (more advanced even then our current public level) was known to humans many, many thousands of years ago. If that enlightened human passed their knowledge on to successors then we can say that there are possibly groups on this planet that have been guardians to this advanced knowledge for several thousands of years (assuming that they hold on to it). Such knowledge could possibly be dangerous in the wrong hands so they would opt for an oath of secretary punishable by death.
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such knowledge cannot be dangerous in the wrong hands cause those with the wrong hands could never ever reach the state of enlightenment needed to use it :)
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Not really because once an inventor gives the instructions how to make a nuclear bomb then others can then make it but before that inventor revealed it nobody could make it.
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Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago.
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Bro, you skipped over whether or not anyone has truly met your definition of enlightenment.

Your presupposition about what enlightenment is, would be no small feat for even highly advanced cultures.
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Reaching enlightenment is the hardest thing a human can accomplish. It is the highest achievement, nothing in terms of achievements can be placed above it.
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Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago.
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Bro, you skipped over whether or not anyone has truly met your definition of enlightenment.

Your presupposition about what enlightenment is, would be no small feat for even highly advanced cultures.
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Reaching enlightenment is the hardest thing a human can accomplish. It is the highest achievement, nothing in terms of achievements can be placed above it.
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clearly op you are ignorant, enlightenment is a state of consciousness, one can only elevate this through meditation to change their frequency, it is mind over matter as well as applying breath and sound to change ones vibrations. To see is not to percieve, to think is not to know. This alone however is not enough, there is a distinction in the metaphysical world from what is pure and impure, therefore astral experiences energy manipulation and extra sensory perception achieved through meditation is subject to illusion as well

FOr example a fish in a tank can only understand and percieve its world what it knows, the blob that is you on the other side, what does it percieve? if not a slight fraction of the deity that exist outside its realm? Simarlarly advancing your consciousness to meditation can only percieve that which you understand.
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If enlightenment is real, if a person who reaches it knows all things then we have an interesting situation. An enlightened person would know the nature of reality in other words an enlightened person would know advanced physics. Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago. That means the most advanced physics (more advanced even then our current public level) was known to humans many, many thousands of years ago. If that enlightened human passed their knowledge on to successors then we can say that there are possibly groups on this planet that have been guardians to this advanced knowledge for several thousands of years (assuming that they hold on to it). Such knowledge could possibly be dangerous in the wrong hands so they would opt for an oath of secretary punishable by death.
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such knowledge cannot be dangerous in the wrong hands cause those with the wrong hands could never ever reach the state of enlightenment needed to use it :)
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Not really because once an inventor gives the instructions how to make a nuclear bomb then others can then make it but before that inventor revealed it nobody could make it.
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nuclear bomb and enlightenment ? really ?

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If enlightenment is real, if a person who reaches it knows all things then we have an interesting situation. An enlightened person would know the nature of reality in other words an enlightened person would know advanced physics. Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago. That means the most advanced physics (more advanced even then our current public level) was known to humans many, many thousands of years ago. If that enlightened human passed their knowledge on to successors then we can say that there are possibly groups on this planet that have been guardians to this advanced knowledge for several thousands of years (assuming that they hold on to it). Such knowledge could possibly be dangerous in the wrong hands so they would opt for an oath of secretary punishable by death.
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you've just about got it op!! It isn't that enlightenment isn't real...

unenlightenment isn't real. What does that make enlightenment??
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Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago.
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Bro, you skipped over whether or not anyone has truly met your definition of enlightenment.

Your presupposition about what enlightenment is, would be no small feat for even highly advanced cultures.
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Reaching enlightenment is the hardest thing a human can accomplish. It is the highest achievement, nothing in terms of achievements can be placed above it.
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Not at all.

Enlightenment is NOT an attainment, or a destination, or even a waypoint along a journey.

Enlightenment is a SIDE EFFECT of the realization that UNENLIGHTENMENT doesn't exist.

The buddha realized enlightenment, but it was NOT what he was trying to do. Buddha was trying to attain NIRVANA, which is altogether different concept from enlightenment.
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If enlightenment is real, if a person who reaches it knows all things then we have an interesting situation. An enlightened person would know the nature of reality in other words an enlightened person would know advanced physics. Next question we need to ask ourselves how long ago did the first human reach enlightenment. We cant answer that but it was several thousand years ago. That means the most advanced physics (more advanced even then our current public level) was known to humans many, many thousands of years ago. If that enlightened human passed their knowledge on to successors then we can say that there are possibly groups on this planet that have been guardians to this advanced knowledge for several thousands of years (assuming that they hold on to it). Such knowledge could possibly be dangerous in the wrong hands so they would opt for an oath of secretary punishable by death.
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such knowledge cannot be dangerous in the wrong hands cause those with the wrong hands could never ever reach the state of enlightenment needed to use it :)
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TGS-threadsucks

Idol1bump Well Said!

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THIS op.
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Doesnt the pope already knows it all?
What more secret knowledge does he need?
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"Enlightenment is..."

"Love is..."


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The papacy absorbed all libraries from everywhere, all sacred teachings and runs all the entire educational structure, both the public education system and the occult education lodges.
And all forms of disciplines, from military, to martial arts, music, agriculture, navigation, physics, mechanics, medicine, what more do they need?
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Doesnt the pope already knows it all?
What more secret knowledge does he need?
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A massive dose of Salvinorin A
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The papacy absorbed all libraries from everywhere, all sacred teachings and runs all the entire educational structure, both the public education system and the occult education lodges.

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Yes, there is a papal camera at the bottom of your throne.

It records your deliveries and that wink goodbye you give.


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Difference between wisdom and science even though they describe the same thing. Jesus didn't know any physics .
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Everyone's enlightenment differs. That's the fucking problem!
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I cant believe that they require any more knowledge, all they require is energy, spiritual energy to be exact.



Thats why all i ever see being credited as "important" is energy, renewable energy is all this thing cares about, every thing else is considered redundant.
Look at the blackouts in america.
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Yes, there is a papal camera at the bottom of your throne.

It records your deliveries and that wink goodbye you give.



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How am i winking? And i have a throne too?
Who am i Barack Obama?
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Yes, there is a papal camera at the bottom of your throne.

It records your deliveries and that wink goodbye you give.



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Do you truly believe that the papacy needs more knowledge?
They already knew it all when Inigo formed the jesuits.
All they need is energy.

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How am i winking? And i have a throne too?

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toilet humour peace
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Yes, there is a papal camera at the bottom of your throne.

It records your deliveries and that wink goodbye you give.



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This is the only throne that i can think of:



And you must believe also that Obama and the rest of the moslem boogermen dont receive their marching orders from the Vatican.

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Everyone's enlightenment differs. That's the fucking problem!
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Enlightenment is knowing which level of insanity you are currently occupying...
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