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(OP) User ID: 79821353 United States 02/23/2021 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Truth Quantum computing Last Edited by Looking Around on 02/23/2021 10:14 AM I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80082047 United States 02/25/2021 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I truly think bitcoin is ultimately a trick. It will be used to control people and will end being the opposite of freedom. IMHO, people who are pro cash, gold, and silver are embracing it as a replacement. Google bitcoin is evil previous to say 2018. Very interesting articles. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70663772 United States 03/01/2021 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are correct, but even "gold backed" is ultimately Fiat, because the value of gold is also a perceived one, not a real one. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe Money does not really exist, the only thing that exists is the collective willingness and belief of most participants in the game to be submitted to put an imaginary value on paper / metal / numbers on a database / absurd numbers created by solving complex maths (a.k.a. crypto currencies). For anyone that has realized of this, the whole thing is laughable. false...gold has utility usage in the real world. that is why it is valuable What was gold's utility usage before the industrial revolution and invention of electric circuitry? Why was gold valued so much so to be the underpinning of a fiat currency when it had practically no utility usage compared to today? When gold's utility usage increased so dramatically, why did it's value adjusted for inflation not increase dramatically as well? 550 BC, gold coins are struck 1915, gold coins still being struck for all the same reasons, fetching about $500 1950, gold printed circuits being struck in mass production, coins fetching about $340 1980, economic shenanigans ensuing, coins fetching about $2,200, TVs with lots of gold circuits sold so cheap that almost every family in America can afford more than one with color :o 2001, coins fetching $400, most families in America now have multiple wide-screen TVs, and computers, and cell phones need I go on? It is not false to argue that the value of any currency or commodity is determined by perception and belief. Utility usage can also be a determining factor, but the history of gold's valuation in recent history should prove to any one willing to look beyond perception and belief that utility usage has little to do with it at all. Perception and belief trumps it on the daily. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79292023 Japan 03/01/2021 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fiat money is any money that is accepted by a government for paying taxes or debt, but is not pegged to or backed directly by gold and other valuables. Fiat money does not have significant intrinsic value or use value. Wikipedia Quoting: Looking Around Plus quantum computing will break the sha256 algorithm encryption soon enough. Not even fiat. As peter schiff says it is more like a digital token. Think chuckee cheese. You can't pay your taxes with bitcoin can you? |
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(OP) User ID: 79821353 United States 03/01/2021 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fiat money is any money that is accepted by a government for paying taxes or debt, but is not pegged to or backed directly by gold and other valuables. Fiat money does not have significant intrinsic value or use value. Wikipedia Quoting: Looking Around Plus quantum computing will break the sha256 algorithm encryption soon enough. Not even fiat. As peter schiff says it is more like a digital token. Think chuckee cheese. You can't pay your taxes with bitcoin can you? real money is in the brokers that charge $20 per transaction. I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79581678 United States 03/03/2021 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fiat money is any money that is accepted by a government for paying taxes or debt, but is not pegged to or backed directly by gold and other valuables. Fiat money does not have significant intrinsic value or use value. Wikipedia Quoting: Looking Around Plus quantum computing will break the sha256 algorithm encryption soon enough. Crypto can't be counterfeited and printed into oblivion like fiat currently is. Quantum computing is not really geared to break encryption. This has been shown to ad nauseam If it ever advanced to a stage where it could then cryptos would simply update the encryption protocols to quantum proof algos which they have already designed. Also if quantum computing broke current encryption protocols than the current traditional financial system would be screwed. SO basically you are wrong on both points. |
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User ID: 80064208 United States 03/03/2021 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In theory, crypto currency fills a void for exchange. However, crypto isn't the be all-end all solution to monetary exchange and here's why: Any time that a stock or a currency can be manipulated by those that are able to acquire the most, they WILL manipulate the up and the down and Joe Bitcoin that holds 100 Bitcoin ($5,000,000.00) is a small fish in an ever-growing pond. If the power brokers decide they are going to short the crypto, they will and Joe Bitcoin will have to ride the ride. Let's say Joe Bitcoin got in a 5,000/coin and now it is 50,000/coin. Joe's made a lot of money, right? Wrong. Until Joe buys something of value in trade for his Bitcoin, he hasn't made a dime. Just as in the stock market, you can talk about how well your stocks are doing and how much you've made but you haven't made anything on stocks until you sell your stocks and reap the profit. Goldman Sachs is now getting involved and that certainly is NOT good news for crypto. Do you not realize that Goldman Sachs is a den of thieves? They will do with Bitcoin what they damn well please to accomplish their goals. Another Brick in the Wall |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80086094 Australia 03/03/2021 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crypto is a new asset class, unrelated to any other. Quoting: BLACK GHOST It is NOT fiat. Fiat is just money that the powers that be force you to use. Crypto is not controlled by the government. It's supply is fixed, so no inflation. if crypto is FIXED - who Fixed it? who can/will UNFIX it? what was Crypto before it begun? So Crypto went from zero to hero? |
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(OP) User ID: 79821353 United States 03/03/2021 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crypto is a new asset class, unrelated to any other. Quoting: BLACK GHOST It is NOT fiat. Fiat is just money that the powers that be force you to use. Crypto is not controlled by the government. It's supply is fixed, so no inflation. if crypto is FIXED - who Fixed it? who can/will UNFIX it? what was Crypto before it begun? So Crypto went from zero to hero? It will come and go. Reset with the rest. I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79399780 United States 03/09/2021 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crypto is a new asset class, unrelated to any other. Quoting: BLACK GHOST It is NOT fiat. Fiat is just money that the powers that be force you to use. Crypto is not controlled by the government. It's supply is fixed, so no inflation. if crypto is FIXED - who Fixed it? who can/will UNFIX it? what was Crypto before it begun? So Crypto went from zero to hero? It will come and go. Reset with the rest. Yep, it’s even worse than fiat cause it’s actually worthless for most of its existence. At least govts bomb and kill to keep their fiats value. In crypto people get liquidated by the market makers and the market maker sells his coins for tangible fiat while the rest of the idiots who didn’t “panic sell” play the hodl crap while they watched the coin go up and down up and down up and down. Insanity. Hodl hodl hodl all the way to fuckin zero. Geniuses most these cryptotards are. This is how the game is played, I’m going to keep telling people so they don’t ruin themselves financially and instead can use crypto to make tangible fiat opposed to holding some shithole coin that’s supposed to fix another coins shortcomings. It’s like the blind leading the blind and they have no idea where they are going but they think it’s all gonna be great as long as they hodl cause gains are coming!! Until they don’t. And then you’re left with some scrambled up digits of bullshit. Lots of naive people get fooled and atm most people are desperate to make a living and crypto is tempting and they take their stimulus and unemployment and throw it away. It’s not designed for the majority of its players to win, people don’t see that and it’s obvious. If you check your ahit coin balance 5 times a day ya winning then ya down then winning then ya down but if I wait a year I might make .25 on every dollar or I might lose 80% of its value. Thread: The truth about the crypto currency market |
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(OP) User ID: 79821353 United States 03/10/2021 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crypto is a new asset class, unrelated to any other. Quoting: BLACK GHOST It is NOT fiat. Fiat is just money that the powers that be force you to use. Crypto is not controlled by the government. It's supply is fixed, so no inflation. if crypto is FIXED - who Fixed it? who can/will UNFIX it? what was Crypto before it begun? So Crypto went from zero to hero? It will come and go. Reset with the rest. Yep, it’s even worse than fiat cause it’s actually worthless for most of its existence. At least govts bomb and kill to keep their fiats value. In crypto people get liquidated by the market makers and the market maker sells his coins for tangible fiat while the rest of the idiots who didn’t “panic sell” play the hodl crap while they watched the coin go up and down up and down up and down. Insanity. Hodl hodl hodl all the way to fuckin zero. Geniuses most these cryptotards are. This is how the game is played, I’m going to keep telling people so they don’t ruin themselves financially and instead can use crypto to make tangible fiat opposed to holding some shithole coin that’s supposed to fix another coins shortcomings. It’s like the blind leading the blind and they have no idea where they are going but they think it’s all gonna be great as long as they hodl cause gains are coming!! Until they don’t. And then you’re left with some scrambled up digits of bullshit. Lots of naive people get fooled and atm most people are desperate to make a living and crypto is tempting and they take their stimulus and unemployment and throw it away. It’s not designed for the majority of its players to win, people don’t see that and it’s obvious. If you check your ahit coin balance 5 times a day ya winning then ya down then winning then ya down but if I wait a year I might make .25 on every dollar or I might lose 80% of its value. Thread: The truth about the crypto currency market I have been on GLP long time. I'm old and young.. . |
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