If a Catholic becomes a Christian putting Christ above the pope has he betrayed God?

You're a cultist you vampire.

No
That's a stupid question the pope is ultimately a disciple
Adnd Christ being God
The only God they're ever going to see
He will take a donkey and defeat anything that rises against him
He'll take one donkey and destroy every Army in the world

Another stupid question

He doesn't need a donkey

Who cares?
One lot of delusional idiots arguing over who's delusions are strongest.
If God existed, he'd put pay to the entire debacle.
It's like the old 'how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin' debate.
Pointless, time consuming and downright moranic...

He don't need s***
And I got news for you anybody entity or organization representing him wrong he will defame you throw you under the bus and make you look bad so I suggest you start smashing those statues a fallen angel at the government buildings that would be a good sign to your God

your question has being answered from 1500s from Luther and the creation of protestantism
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No. God doesn't like the pope.

this in english lang

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Has he foretold judgement on the pope?

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice like thunder: “Come!” 2 And I saw, and look! a white horse, and the one seated on it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went out conquering and to complete his conquest.
3 When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say: “Come!” 4 Another came out, a fiery-colored horse, and it was granted to the one seated on it to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another, and he was given a great sword.
5 When he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say: “Come!” And I saw, and look! a black horse, and the one seated on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 I heard what sounded like a voice in the midst of the four living creatures say: “A quart of wheat for a de·narʹi·us and three quarts of barley for a de·narʹi·us; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine.”
7 When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say: “Come!” 8 And I saw, and look! a pale horse, and the one seated on it had the name Death. And the Grave was closely following him. And authority was given them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a long sword and with food shortage and with deadly plague and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Christ is the Divine Head, His response to Peter in Matthew 16:1-18 was that Peter's confession is the rock on which He would build His church.

Catholics and their popes - give me a break. What heresy.

Phooey, typo. Matthew 16:16-18

I'm no expert, but isn't the general idea of Catholicism that Jesus left one of his disciples in charge while he was gone, and the pope inherited that "office"?

If so, wouldn't Jesus still technically rank higher than the guy who is merely holding his throne warm for him?

Right as if Jesus changed his mind on providing the sacrifice and assigned it to Peter to become the Savior.

The Vatican Vicar has got nothing to do with Jesus / Yeshua's Church

Think of the Pope as... your uncle, Reemus.

Think of Jesus as... Jesus.

Well that's the Story Rome would have you believe ... right up there with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny

A true Christian wouldn’t recognize the pope as anything but a farce, and they would never pray to Mary either. Nor would a true Christian focus on rote rituals and written verse memorization.

Spirituality is about having a relationship with Christ.

Here he is unmasked, it's long but worth it:
Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you, I used to tell you these things?
6And now you know what is acting as a restraint, so that he will be revealed in his own due time. 7True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who is right now acting as a restraint is out of the way. 8Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders 10and every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved. 11That is why God lets a deluding influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie, 12in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness. 2Thes2


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Did Jesus appoint Peter pope superior to everyone else, then cardinals, bishops, mother superiors?

not at all

Right.
But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers. 9Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. 10Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ. 11But the greatest one among you must be your minister. 12Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. Mt23:8

christ is your teacher
so open that heart "chakra" and listen
or are you afraid of heart?

You Must Love Jehovah Your God”

“You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.”—MATTHEW 22:37.

Catholics are Christians. Any Catholic who says otherwise is misinformed or ignorant. In fact we were the only Christians for the first 1,500 years of Christian history. We do not put the Pope above Christ. He is a sinner and a fallible man. He is only considered infallible when making official Church teaching on faith and morals because by the power of the Holy Spirit Christ's Church will never teach error. Non-Catholic Christians should be asking why they abandoned the Eucharist and confession, sacraments which were practiced by all Christians worldwide from the time of the apostles until a 15th-century German decided they were no longer necessary. Jesus instituted the Eucharist very clearly at the last supper. He explicitly gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins when he said "Whoever's sins you forgive are forgiven and whoever's wins you retain are retained." An institution needs a leader. Why are Christians willing to acknowledge the authority of their local pastor in jeans and a flannel over the leader of the Church that was instituted by Christ and traces itself in unbroken succession back to the apostles? Why are non-Catholic bibles missing 7 of the original books? And by the way, the books of the Bible were chosen at Catholic Church councils. To acknowledge the authority of Sacred Scripture is to acknowledge the authority of the Catholic Church. I'm guessing that the reason comments are turned off on the youtube video posted by the OP are because of points like the ones I just made. And I could go on and on. My brothers and sisters in Christ, Come home to the Catholic Church and the fullness of the faith. Give it a fair chance. It has produced countless men and women of heroic virtue all over the world throughout the ages for a reason and it has always taught the truth on faith and morals to this day. It stands strong on teaching the truth while tens of thousands of other denominations disagree on all sorts of things. Christ established one Church and the night before his death he prayed with tears that his people would be one so that the world would see their unity and know that they are God's children. To divide the Church, the Body of Christ, is in and of itself an un-Christian act and anyone who did so is guilty of a grave sin. May God have mercy on their souls. Catholics do not believe that all non-Catholics go to Hell. Most non-Catholic Christians do know Jesus, but they are deprived of the fullness of the faith found in the power and grace of the sacraments and the traditions and wisdom passed down from the many saints dating back to the time of the apostles. God bless you all.

Oh look, another retarded Catholic-bashing thread. Yawwwn...

You don't think Catholics have a relationship with Jesus. O, the ignorance.

Isn't it just practical that Christ's Church has a human leader since Christ no longer physically walks the Earth?

Didn't the angel Gabriel say to Mary "Hail, Full of grace!" (The original Greek translation uses the word kekaratomine, meaning "She who has been graced to the full") Didn't Mary's cousin Elizabeth say, when filled with the Holy Spirit, "Who am I that the Mother of my Lord should come to me?" Didn't Mary, of her own free will, bring about the salvation of all mankind by allowing herself to be the vessel of the Son of God when she said to the Angel Gabriel "Behold the handmaiden of the Lord. Let it be done to me according to you word." Didn't Jesus say on the cross "Behold your Mother?" Mary was the perfect example of one who submitted their will to God as we are all called to do. Of Jesus, she said "Do whatever he tells you." She willingly allowed her son to be crucified for the our salvation. Isn't one of the ten commandments to honor our father and mother? Mary is the Mother of God, and Christ called us his brothers and sisters. When filled with the Holy Spirit, Mary declared "My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my savior. For he has looked with favor upon my lowliness, and from this day forth all generations will call me blessed." Do you call Mary blessed? If not, you may want to re-read the Gospels.

At the last supper Jesus instituted himself as the new Passover lamb, saying the bread and wine was his body and blood which would be given up for the forgiveness of sins. He instructed his followers to continue partaking of this meal. You call that a "rote ritual?" Do you call baptism a "rote ritual?" Jesus himself was baptized. Study the Church fathers, because the Catholic sacraments were practiced by all Christians from the earliest days of Christianity.