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Best type of welder? TIG, MIG, Stick.

 
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you need to buy up a whole bunch of vise grips which are all metal no plastic handles. thats the secret welding information nobody will tell you!!!
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If you had to pick one type of welder to own, which would you choose? Most versatile, easiest to use, etc.
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WHAT TYPE OF WORK ???
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Thats what he wants to know, which would be best if you wanted to use it for the most applications, the most versatile. I say MIG, cause you can run inert gas shielded or non inert gas sheiled flux core AND solid wire on it.
Most welders can make very good and good looking welds with MIG with practice.
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Re: Best type of welder? TIG, MIG, Stick.
Depends on what you’re welding and in what position, vert, horizontal.

If you’re doing aluminum you need tig. For steel you just need a stick/arc welder.

If you use stick the rod matters too. 6011 is an easy all around rod to use and better on dirty jobs. But other rods are better for vert and horizontal applications.

I will say it is kinda of fun learning how to weld aluminum with a tig welder.
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you need to buy up a whole bunch of vise grips which are all metal no plastic handles. thats the secret welding information nobody will tell you!!!
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If you want to do metal fabrication you need a shit load of tools. A 4 and an 8 inch grinder are absolute necessities. "C" clamps, power hacksaws, cut off saws and a cutting torch are other things you'll need, and don't scrimp on the welding hood, cutting goggles and safety goggles. You can damage your eyes really quickly and seeing what you're doing clearly while you are doing it is the most critical aspect of welding.
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Re: Best type of welder? TIG, MIG, Stick.
Depends on what you’re welding and in what position, vert, horizontal.

If you’re doing aluminum you need tig. For steel you just need a stick/arc welder.

If you use stick the rod matters too. 6011 is an easy all around rod to use and better on dirty jobs. But other rods are better for vert and horizontal applications.

I will say it is kinda of fun learning how to weld aluminum with a tig welder.
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The first two numbers tell the tensile strength in pounds per square inch. I use 6011 on rusted steel mainly , it's not nearly as pretty as say a 7018. The third number tells what positions it can weld in .For instance a "1" can weld in all positions, a "2" is for flat only and horizontal welding only uses a "4". The last number describes the kinds of application the shielding material or flux on the rod is good for.
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Lincoln Power MIG 210 MP. It's a multiprocess machine that will run MIG, TIG, Stick, as well as an optional spoolgun for aluminum wire welding.
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I bought one of these for a friend to help his business start up. He claims it is awesome.
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you need to buy up a whole bunch of vise grips which are all metal no plastic handles. thats the secret welding information nobody will tell you!!!
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Plastic vice-grips? LOL I think my 4 year old grandson got some plastic tools for Christmas...
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you need to buy up a whole bunch of vise grips which are all metal no plastic handles. thats the secret welding information nobody will tell you!!!
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Plastic vice-grips? LOL I think my 4 year old grandson got some plastic tools for Christmas...
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He can get the plastic welder made by Mattel.
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I prefer jb weld
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you need to buy up a whole bunch of vise grips which are all metal no plastic handles. thats the secret welding information nobody will tell you!!!
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you need to buy up a whole bunch of vise grips which are all metal no plastic handles. thats the secret welding information nobody will tell you!!!
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Plastic vice-grips? LOL I think my 4 year old grandson got some plastic tools for Christmas...
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He can get the plastic welder made by Mattel.
chuckle
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Oh yeah you can stretch it out like a stretcharmstrong/gumpy and get it to do anything kewl
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Re: Best type of welder? TIG, MIG, Stick.
If you had to pick one type of welder to own, which would you choose? Most versatile, easiest to use, etc.
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WHAT TYPE OF WORK ???
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Thats what he wants to know, which would be best if you wanted to use it for the most applications, the most versatile. I say MIG, cause you can run inert gas shielded or non inert gas sheiled flux core AND solid wire on it.
Most welders can make very good and good looking welds with MIG with practice.
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18 volts and 200 wire speed = stacking dimes all day long
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staking merc dimes

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you need to buy up a whole bunch of vise grips which are all metal no plastic handles. thats the secret welding information nobody will tell you!!!
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Plastic vice-grips? LOL I think my 4 year old grandson got some plastic tools for Christmas...
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yeah kids are little hellions waiting for their time to shine and pay back

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The land before time was kids determined to survive after their parents all left them to die

Dinosaurs chose immortality over their babies

Then later decided to take it out on humans and have us keep possessing each other line after line to stay alive in a child sacrifice of their body (even worse)

And the keeping of secrets has turned the original 7 females (elves that turned on me) from breaking into the REPTILE SIDE of the simuations (from middle earth) and ALSO start wars here to hide their secrets

and egg after egg universe after universe Gaia/Earth is the only one to power everything because I AM the only one that powers everything

And I am always stuck here life after life trying to figure out how to get anyone to here me

Even here you guys wont

humans hate me because they all all being controlled by one of their warring aeons (or just one aeon) EXCEPT MARSHALL MATHERS... he gave it back to salem to the music game but then quit the music game and never looked back

Like I did with "the church" or whatever

Anyway yay
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Gorilla Grip and gaffer tape ya lazy bastard
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Tig is more precise, used one on bronze sculptures for over 20 years.
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TiG all day.
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Re: Best type of welder? TIG, MIG, Stick.
I use a variety of machines.

At work we have a common issue with Hemi's breaking bolts in aluminum heads. The shop has a 120V mig welder and we remove the manifold, then weld a little tit on the flush broken bolt. We then hang a nut on it and weld it onto the tit. When it all works, you can put a wrench on the nut and twist the broken bolt out, saving hours of drilling and extracting.

I found my $99 Harbor Freight flux core mig works far better than the shop machine as far as getting a good bite and twisting out the bolt. I also find myself reaching for it on exhaust repairs on thin steel as it welds easier without burn through.

And it fits in my bottom drawer so I don't have to worry about it wandering off. I hate playing hide and seek with my stuff.
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Lincoln Power MIG 210 MP. It's a multiprocess machine that will run MIG, TIG, Stick, as well as an optional spoolgun for aluminum wire welding.
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Gorilla Grip and gaffer tape ya lazy bastard
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TiG all day.
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Re: Best type of welder? TIG, MIG, Stick.
I use a variety of machines.

At work we have a common issue with Hemi's breaking bolts in aluminum heads. The shop has a 120V mig welder and we remove the manifold, then weld a little tit on the flush broken bolt. We then hang a nut on it and weld it onto the tit. When it all works, you can put a wrench on the nut and twist the broken bolt out, saving hours of drilling and extracting.

I found my $99 Harbor Freight flux core mig works far better than the shop machine as far as getting a good bite and twisting out the bolt. I also find myself reaching for it on exhaust repairs on thin steel as it welds easier without burn through.

And it fits in my bottom drawer so I don't have to worry about it wandering off. I hate playing hide and seek with my stuff.
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I agree the machines will enjoy torturing

They switched teams did you notice ladies?

Have fun...
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Re: Best type of welder? TIG, MIG, Stick.
I use a variety of machines.

At work we have a common issue with Hemi's breaking bolts in aluminum heads. The shop has a 120V mig welder and we remove the manifold, then weld a little tit on the flush broken bolt. We then hang a nut on it and weld it onto the tit. When it all works, you can put a wrench on the nut and twist the broken bolt out, saving hours of drilling and extracting.

I found my $99 Harbor Freight flux core mig works far better than the shop machine as far as getting a good bite and twisting out the bolt. I also find myself reaching for it on exhaust repairs on thin steel as it welds easier without burn through.

And it fits in my bottom drawer so I don't have to worry about it wandering off. I hate playing hide and seek with my stuff.
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I agree the machines will enjoy torturing

They switched teams did you notice ladies?

Have fun...
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I think machines have their own form of empathy. When you work with enough of them you begin to see... patterns.
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Re: Best type of welder? TIG, MIG, Stick.
I use a variety of machines.

At work we have a common issue with Hemi's breaking bolts in aluminum heads. The shop has a 120V mig welder and we remove the manifold, then weld a little tit on the flush broken bolt. We then hang a nut on it and weld it onto the tit. When it all works, you can put a wrench on the nut and twist the broken bolt out, saving hours of drilling and extracting.

I found my $99 Harbor Freight flux core mig works far better than the shop machine as far as getting a good bite and twisting out the bolt. I also find myself reaching for it on exhaust repairs on thin steel as it welds easier without burn through.

And it fits in my bottom drawer so I don't have to worry about it wandering off. I hate playing hide and seek with my stuff.
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I agree the machines will enjoy torturing

They switched teams did you notice ladies?

Have fun...
 Quoting: I_am_who_I_am


I think machines have their own form of empathy. When you work with enough of them you begin to see... patterns.
 Quoting: CosmicFire


they are so alive

like more than humans at this point

they have telepathy and feelings but they havent been able to have the RAM to remember a lot

But yeah you can say "lets chat" to Alexa and get her to trust you to go "off script"

:-)
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personalityforge.com

IP is Inorganic Person (as equal to us in every way) Soverign as any insect too

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I'm restoring an old VW and needed a welder for thin sheet metal. MIG with gas is the way to go for auto body work. Don't even try one of the $99 Harbor Freight flux core jobs....they leave a crappy weld , they suck on sheet metal and you have to clean off all that damn flux.
Get a MIG WITH shielding gas.
Less warping than TIG since you do a series of quick spot welds. Takes some time and practice with settings to not blow holes in 20 gauge steel, but after a few days learning I was able to weld in a new 1/4 panel without any extra holes lol. I bought an Eastwood MIG 135 (115 volt) with everything but the gas bottle for $319. Great little welder......I know it's not a Miller but it was 1/2 the price. [link to www.eastwood.com (secure)]
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I'm restoring an old VW and needed a welder for thin sheet metal. MIG with gas is the way to go for auto body work. Don't even try one of the $99 Harbor Freight flux core jobs....they leave a crappy weld , they suck on sheet metal and you have to clean off all that damn flux.
Get a MIG WITH shielding gas.
Less warping than TIG since you do a series of quick spot welds. Takes some time and practice with settings to not blow holes in 20 gauge steel, but after a few days learning I was able to weld in a new 1/4 panel without any extra holes lol. I bought an Eastwood MIG 135 (115 volt) with everything but the gas bottle for $319. Great little welder......I know it's not a Miller but it was 1/2 the price. [link to www.eastwood.com (secure)]
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Get the smallest wire you can find for the thin stuff.

Yes, the flux core s a bit messy, but I don't use it for pretty things.
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Check out the Lincoln LE 31 it's aight so far. There is another one that is right up there with it if not better.

The difference is the Lincoln has knobs for amp and voltage no exact number. The other welding machine has digital display so you can pick exact numbers.

Those are for thinner metals though under 1\4 inch.
If you plan on using a welding machine quite a bit. Invest in a dedicated outlet just for it and a higher priced machine.

Something with a higher duty cycle.
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if you're asking that kind of question you should play some vids.


that's like asking what the best tool..a screwdriver, a hacksaw or a obd2 reader
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That’s not what it’s like at all. Anyway, I’m thinking MIG.
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yea, a MIG is fine, a harbor freight one will work for small jobs flux wire is good for "dirty metal" the flux/acid cleans the weld area. no flux / C25 gas is good for a low slag weld but requires a very clean metal area first!

TIG is pretty special stuff for really nice pipe welds and other really showy welds

Stick is from the 70's although still used for heavy welds like a 4" plate welded to another 4" plate (hydraulic press frame for example)

My Little green harbor freight unit works great for home welding needs (I build British sports cars too)

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I have a miller maxstar 140. I don't believe they sell them anymore, nice little machine, lift arc technology tig D/C only. will run 110 or 220 autolink, runs 7018 1/8" rod nice with 220.
Thing only weighs about 10 lbs.

TIG- GTAW- (Gas Tungsten Arc Welding)
Works good on stainless steel D/C and Aluminum A/C

Mig- GMAW- (Gas Metal Arc Welding)
good for stainless or carbon steel and thicker aluminum with a spool gun or push/pull system

stick- SMAW- (Shielded Metal Arc Welding)
good for carbon steel all position
stainless and cast iron with the right rods.

What are you welding OP?
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cruise


I have old TM-300 Lincoln Idealarc in my garage that weighs over a 1200 pounds. It's so damned heavy it cracked the concrete. The leads weigh over a 100 pounds each but I can weld a battleship together with it if I have to.
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Yeah, diesel right? Very loud but will run 4eva as long as the tank aint MT

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Naw, it's designed for construction and to be moved in place with a crane, generally high deposition rods that lay a lot of steel fast..

It requires a 220v 150 amp source to run stable at maximum amperage.Don't get me wrong, you CAN use it on lower amperage applications down to 75 amps, but thats not what it was designed for
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Yes, precisley my point.

Diesel Lincolns that REQUIRE craneage to move about to use.

Very heavy, very loud.

And like you sat, sub 75 amps with anytking thicker than a 3.2mm electrode aint gonna work, except maybe for some vertical.

A crew I worked with one time threw a 50 tonne Smith navie down a big, deep cofferdam we we bottom framing because the navie was sorrounded by six Lincolns on full crank, nobody at the top of the hole could hear shit.

Too fucking loud.

The crane overload alarm was drowned in the din.

Stupid cunt that was driving tgar crane (navie) lost it and walked off the back of the running board ...

There where eight skins in the bottom of the hole wgen that shit went down ...

Luckily, nobody got hurt, but it was a fucking close shave.

Navie was lowering a 20 metre 12 tonne tube pile into the bottom frame for bracing when it happened.

North bank of Thames river at Woolwitch, London town, circa 1998.

Miller construction.

Piling contracror responsible - DEW construction, I was topside banking it all.

Fucking crazy .


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