F#@% paper grocery bags

the cruise ships and others literally dump their trash out at sea to save on disposal fees.
and the land lubbers get the blame.

there are a shit ton of videos just at YT alone..

i prefer paper bags because i can reuse them in my garden.
i try to compost almost everything i possibly can.

Or better yet buy food grade (safe to store food in) HDPE plastic 5-gallon plastic buckets with handles (such as those made by Leaktite) and use them as grocery bags. You can wash them with soap and water and reuse them for the rest of your life!

If you tie it to a hand truck with a bungie cord you have your own shopping cart. Tape a sign on it that says, "This is my shopping cart. I will pay for these items at the register." And be sure you do! That way you also don't have to wipe down their shopping carts after a dirty diaper kid sat in it or an ungloved person pushed it.

You can stack two 5 gallon containers on top of each other on a hand truck. You can also use them to store food in, with airtight lids to keep insects out. Because they are plastic, rodents could chew through them, but the airtight seal would prevent them from smelling the food and being attracted to it in the first place.

Yep, as soon as they provide reusable or even thin disposable hemp products that I can purchase...I am never looking back.

Paper bags mean cockroaches . They are the perfect medium for their eggs and it is really a big problem in many areas .

From the warehouses out . This was proven clear back in the 70s . It has not changed .

Fuck plastic bags. Buy a nice bag for groceries and stop being crybaby.

Our local newspaper has flame retardant on t, the bags don't. Superior for lighting the woodstove.

If you have a car, you don't even need a bag.

What? You don't just drive right into the store do you? I'm confused.

I haven't even seen a paper bag in 20 years.

Good riddance.

You take the shopping trolley with you to the car, and put the groceries in whatever containers you prefer.
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Ah hah! Just as I suspected!

(Because of your reputable intelligence and insight, the fun of busting your chops over the hyperbole was too good to pass up.)



All right then. You're off the hook, Zalinsky.




Damn good question.




Valid point. Paper grocery bags are structurally inferior to their now-extinct plastic counterparts. Another poster remarked earlier that they always double-bag. Seems the smartest option for paper.

If you heat plastic in an oxygen free environment, you can distill the plastic back into oil. Rubber tires too and then you get carbon black and steel belts to add to the recycling money.

No, RUbber tires are crosslinked with Sulfur atoms. There is no chemical or distillation method to undo that. They hit them with liquid nitrogen and then grind them up, producing crumbs of rubber and of course the steel belts.
The rubber crumbs can be used to make running tracks or roads.

Plastics might be recyclable though. But they don't get distilled.

Worst case is you feed it into an oxygen fed plasma furnace and create a syngas, which can be cleaned up and used as either fuel gas or as feedstock to chemical synthesis reactions.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/01/2021 05:08 PM