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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79984908  Puerto Rico01/26/2021 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | time to bring manufacturing home to america Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73856390 get to work everyone support amazon alternatives buy local stop buying crap from crap countries making crap your participation enables these companies This is exactly what we need to do. TOO LATE YOU LAZY FUCKS... YOU LOST THE WAR... LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79984824  Norway01/26/2021 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | time to bring manufacturing home to america Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73856390 get to work everyone support amazon alternatives buy local stop buying crap from crap countries making crap your participation enables these companies This is exactly what we need to do. TOO LATE YOU LAZY FUCKS... YOU LOST THE WAR... LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA LONG LIVE KING XI AND CHINA China is beating the snot out of us, ffs. . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79978419 United States01/26/2021 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China is withholding shipments to US as well until the US rescinds the Trump era trade embargos/tariffs. Big corp I know of is having to adjust their labor force around circuit boards they say they are being flat out denied from their Chinese distributor. First sentence in this reply was their exact statement on the matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79879031 What will we miss from China? Electronics? Most all of the world's semiconductors involve the country of Taiwan.... NOT China. It's made quite a few headlines recently.... and will drive China's ambition even further to invade them. [link to www.msn.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79744158 United States01/26/2021 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79710472 When nobody knows what's going on, there's nothing left but WAR. . Actually - do you know the rates to get a container from China now? It used to be a rate of $2200 from China to us port. By rejecting containers, they have tripled the price for US to get containers to China to pick up things such as Glass for Wine bottles, and now Aluminum cans (because US is over capacity at the plants for Ball and Crown - meaning all cans in excess have to be bought from S. Korea or China or Egypt) They are effectively playing a chess game here. Don't accept ships/containers. And when US needs goods the containers cost 3X more at $9000 a container! Now put this into perspective. You buy glass bottles - 750ml 12pk box. You can only fit 16 pallets (112cases per pallet)on a truck. the glass cost $5.00 case. You have 1792 cases of glass bottles. take $9000 divide by 1792cs that is $5.13 per case added to the price of glass. Now each case of glass costs the US. $10.13. Where as previously 1752 cases divide by old shipping costs it was $1.14 per case. Ok Glass was sold at $6.14 case. You see this. That is just $3.99 more for a case of glass bottles (with no wine in it). Now that increase effects your Wine Price. Your bottle wine that was $7.99 increased to $10.00 a bottle. Hits the USA working person at their wallet. Now mulitply 70 containers a month for wine large winery Freight is a total of $630,000. your cost of goods was $613.000 your freight cost more than your goods!!! Does this make sense to you all? I tried to break this down to show you how dramatic the pricing is going to change for goods in the USA. Wine was a prime example. But imagine on a larger scale? all goods are getting charged $9000 in freight costs! Domestic supply will usually pick up the slack for situations where imports are cost more due to price comparative advantage except in situations where one country has absolute advantage e.g rare earth metals. Look at the gaming martket for example. The price of a graphics cards keeps going up, yet we don't have companies entering the market to take advantage of the supply shortages. Considering the future development of A.I and cryptocurrencies, GPUs are going to be in huge demand. Therefore, if rare earth materials were so aboundant as many people claim, why aren't more U.S companies manufacturing electronics here in the states considering most PCBs are assembled with automated robots in China?! Anyone care to answer that? U.S. rare earth mines were shut down partly by obamba and partly by environmentalists. the former receiving funds and the latter probably directly funded by China. USA has very abundant resources, the last few years was energy self sufficient due to the opening up of restricted land.  you fail to understand even though we have the resources of minerals. The usa taxes the hell out of plantanto produce glass cans etc. The DEQ Emissions and so forth are joy allowing new manufacturing facilities in the US!!! Therefor we cannot meet demand without enough mfg companies Geesh. You all d9nt get it or u understand. Quite frustrating. As I speak truths as I am in the actual market supplying Wineries, Distilleries, Brewing companies etc. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79843565  Uruguay01/26/2021 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79744158 Actually - do you know the rates to get a container from China now? It used to be a rate of $2200 from China to us port. By rejecting containers, they have tripled the price for US to get containers to China to pick up things such as Glass for Wine bottles, and now Aluminum cans (because US is over capacity at the plants for Ball and Crown - meaning all cans in excess have to be bought from S. Korea or China or Egypt) They are effectively playing a chess game here. Don't accept ships/containers. And when US needs goods the containers cost 3X more at $9000 a container! Now put this into perspective. You buy glass bottles - 750ml 12pk box. You can only fit 16 pallets (112cases per pallet)on a truck. the glass cost $5.00 case. You have 1792 cases of glass bottles. take $9000 divide by 1792cs that is $5.13 per case added to the price of glass. Now each case of glass costs the US. $10.13. Where as previously 1752 cases divide by old shipping costs it was $1.14 per case. Ok Glass was sold at $6.14 case. You see this. That is just $3.99 more for a case of glass bottles (with no wine in it). Now that increase effects your Wine Price. Your bottle wine that was $7.99 increased to $10.00 a bottle. Hits the USA working person at their wallet. Now mulitply 70 containers a month for wine large winery Freight is a total of $630,000. your cost of goods was $613.000 your freight cost more than your goods!!! Does this make sense to you all? I tried to break this down to show you how dramatic the pricing is going to change for goods in the USA. Wine was a prime example. But imagine on a larger scale? all goods are getting charged $9000 in freight costs! Domestic supply will usually pick up the slack for situations where imports are cost more due to price comparative advantage except in situations where one country has absolute advantage e.g rare earth metals. Look at the gaming martket for example. The price of a graphics cards keeps going up, yet we don't have companies entering the market to take advantage of the supply shortages. Considering the future development of A.I and cryptocurrencies, GPUs are going to be in huge demand. Therefore, if rare earth materials were so aboundant as many people claim, why aren't more U.S companies manufacturing electronics here in the states considering most PCBs are assembled with automated robots in China?! Anyone care to answer that? U.S. rare earth mines were shut down partly by obamba and partly by environmentalists. the former receiving funds and the latter probably directly funded by China. USA has very abundant resources, the last few years was energy self sufficient due to the opening up of restricted land. you fail to understand even though we have the resources of minerals. The usa taxes the hell out of plantanto produce glass cans etc. The DEQ Emissions and so forth are joy allowing new manufacturing facilities in the US!!! Therefor we cannot meet demand without enough mfg companies Geesh. You all d9nt get it or u understand. Quite frustrating. 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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79985459 United States01/27/2021 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is saying China chose to spend MORE money to bring home containers that were empty than were filled with US products. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76884313 They don't want our shit. It's cheaper to receive an empty container because it can be refilled with their shit and sent right back over here. If they receive our products they have to actually do something with them which costs them more money than receiving an empty container. Translation for GLP retards: China doesn't want US agricultural products now, not Trump banning food export to China to starve them. If they don't want US agricultural products, it means they have alternative, not starving. Use your brain, all you retards. Trumptard fact twisters are the reason why Trumptards stay addicted to their own delusional hopium while the shuo us sinkung. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79985459 United States01/27/2021 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1st trade agreement went into effect. 2nd trade agreement failed. Soon after, we had Covid. Except China has decided to rescind on the 1st trade agreement and have secured alternatives to their U.S imports, this story is BS. The issue at hand is rare earth metals with China as the only supplier due their ability to seperate heavy rare earth metals at an economical rate. Without rare earths, the manufacturing industry will cease to exist overnight. Hence, the reason why all your corporations capitulate to China and embrace Chinese values. Whomever controls rare earth metals controls the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78146585 Unfortunately OBAMA or CLINTON (can't remember) gave control of OUR rare earths to CHINA!! What a retard. No one gives it up, it's just not economical and environmental friendly to produce the rare earths locally. If Trump is so great for you Trumptards, who didn't he start the local rare earth production? It's not like America has no technical know how to do that. Blaming everyone else beside your camp is the reason why trumptardism loses. You're not in touch with reality. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79809782 United States01/27/2021 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's alright, since it is agricultural products (I'm guessing grain of some sort)they will be back because they will need the food supply at some point or another. At that time, the price should be raised to make up for any lost/spoiled/rotted product that was not shipped (plus a little just to say don't fuck with us anymore). Quoting: T-Bone Food is one thing people will pay dearly for if supply is short. With a kazillion mouths to feed, China doesn't have more than a few options available to them. They'll be back soon to ask that we fill those containers again. Be patient. It's China. No they won't be back begging. They will let their people eat dogs or starve. |
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| Tree of Life
User ID: 268296  Canada01/27/2021 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is saying China chose to spend MORE money to bring home containers that were empty than were filled with US products. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76884313 They don't want our shit. It's cheaper to receive an empty container because it can be refilled with their shit and sent right back over here. If they receive our products they have to actually do something with them which costs them more money than receiving an empty container. Translation for GLP retards: China doesn't want US agricultural products now, not Trump banning food export to China to starve them. If they don't want US agricultural products, it means they have alternative, not starving. Use your brain, all you retards. Trumptard fact twisters are the reason why Trumptards stay addicted to their own delusional hopium while the shuo us sinkung. You display a myopic and distorted view, tainted by Trump hate. Have you heard of the one-child policy? China has a real bad overpopulation problem. The CCP has starved off millions of Chinese citizens on purpose before... many times, actually. Grow up. Learn some history, AC~ Last Edited by Tree of Life on 01/27/2021 02:17 AM "All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce |
| Nexus-9
User ID: 19939638  Germany01/27/2021 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China doesn't want our Ag goods, but wants to export their poisonous products instead and need empty shipping containers. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72789604 United States01/27/2021 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is saying China chose to spend MORE money to bring home containers that were empty than were filled with US products. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76884313 They don't want our shit. It's cheaper to receive an empty container because it can be refilled with their shit and sent right back over here. If they receive our products they have to actually do something with them which costs them more money than receiving an empty container. Translation for GLP retards: China doesn't want US agricultural products now, not Trump banning food export to China to starve them. If they don't want US agricultural products, it means they have alternative, not starving. Use your brain, all you retards. Trumptard fact twisters are the reason why Trumptards stay addicted to their own delusional hopium while the shuo us sinkung. You display a myopic and distorted view, tainted by Trump hate. Have you heard of the one-child policy? China has a real bad overpopulation problem. The CCP has starved off millions of Chinese citizens on purpose before... many times, actually. Grow up. Learn some history, AC~ They ended the one child policy years ago now who is the ignorant one? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72789604 United States01/27/2021 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is saying China chose to spend MORE money to bring home containers that were empty than were filled with US products. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76884313 They don't want our shit. It's cheaper to receive an empty container because it can be refilled with their shit and sent right back over here. If they receive our products they have to actually do something with them which costs them more money than receiving an empty container. Translation for GLP retards: China doesn't want US agricultural products now, not Trump banning food export to China to starve them. If they don't want US agricultural products, it means they have alternative, not starving. Use your brain, all you retards. Trumptard fact twisters are the reason why Trumptards stay addicted to their own delusional hopium while the shuo us sinkung. You display a myopic and distorted view, tainted by Trump hate. Have you heard of the one-child policy? China has a real bad overpopulation problem. The CCP has starved off millions of Chinese citizens on purpose before... many times, actually. Grow up. Learn some history, AC~ [link to www.history.com (secure)] China announces the end of its controversial one-child policy On JANUARY 27 in 2015, the Chinese government officially announces the end of its one-child policy, ending the most extreme state birth control project in history after 35 years. Adapted from a two-child policy instituted in 1970, these extreme measures were deemed necessary due to concerns over the rapidly expanding Chinese population, which had ballooned from 540 million in 1949 to 940 million by 1976. Amid global fears of overpopulation, the Chinese government decided to limit families to one child each, although exceptions allowing for two children were common. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72789604 United States01/27/2021 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is saying China chose to spend MORE money to bring home containers that were empty than were filled with US products. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76884313 They don't want our shit. It's cheaper to receive an empty container because it can be refilled with their shit and sent right back over here. If they receive our products they have to actually do something with them which costs them more money than receiving an empty container. Translation for GLP retards: China doesn't want US agricultural products now, not Trump banning food export to China to starve them. If they don't want US agricultural products, it means they have alternative, not starving. Use your brain, all you retards. Trumptard fact twisters are the reason why Trumptards stay addicted to their own delusional hopium while the shuo us sinkung. You display a myopic and distorted view, tainted by Trump hate. Have you heard of the one-child policy? China has a real bad overpopulation problem. The CCP has starved off millions of Chinese citizens on purpose before... many times, actually. Grow up. Learn some history, AC~ [link to www.history.com (secure)] China announces the end of its controversial one-child policy On JANUARY 27 in 2015, the Chinese government officially announces the end of its one-child policy, ending the most extreme state birth control project in history after 35 years. Adapted from a two-child policy instituted in 1970, these extreme measures were deemed necessary due to concerns over the rapidly expanding Chinese population, which had ballooned from 540 million in 1949 to 940 million by 1976. Amid global fears of overpopulation, the Chinese government decided to limit families to one child each, although exceptions allowing for two children were common. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34699607 Canada01/27/2021 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not much export to china. China starve. Unfortunately, while they starve we have to fight for life. We get a choice, they do not. Not much export to china. China starve. Unfortunately, while they starve we have to fight for life. We get a choice, they do not. Lol they aren't even close to starving, unlike America ...yes the world's economy is extremely strained, but China's less than any others...all by design...trump did his job well ...and many americans are so fucking goddamn dumb that they are still cheering Trump on.... China won't starve because they have investments in every part of the world |
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User ID: 268296 Canada01/27/2021 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is saying China chose to spend MORE money to bring home containers that were empty than were filled with US products. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76884313 They don't want our shit. It's cheaper to receive an empty container because it can be refilled with their shit and sent right back over here. If they receive our products they have to actually do something with them which costs them more money than receiving an empty container. Translation for GLP retards: China doesn't want US agricultural products now, not Trump banning food export to China to starve them. If they don't want US agricultural products, it means they have alternative, not starving. Use your brain, all you retards. Trumptard fact twisters are the reason why Trumptards stay addicted to their own delusional hopium while the shuo us sinkung. You display a myopic and distorted view, tainted by Trump hate. Have you heard of the one-child policy? China has a real bad overpopulation problem. The CCP has starved off millions of Chinese citizens on purpose before... many times, actually. Grow up. Learn some history, AC~ They ended the one child policy years ago now who is the ignorant one? Did I mention the chinese have 1.3 Billion people on the same size landmass as the USA with 330 Million? They likely discontinued a worthless policy and went for more impressive means of population control like the bioweapon covid. Are you ignoring the mass genocide and ethnic cleansing that has occurred there? Are you chinese by any chance...lol "All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce |
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