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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1375348 United States 01/26/2021 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wisdom is doing the right action, at the right time and the right place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79982297 No wisdom is knowing from experience what the right action is.. and when its the right time... and when its the right place.. you gained the wisdom first thru genuine experience.. and then used it at these times. You're like a retarded bad penny, always turning up and always wrong. You speak of wisdom like a virgin speaks of sex, no experience. |
Baloney
User ID: 75923721 United States 01/26/2021 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BALONEY!!! YES it is cursing and no its not authentic communication. Its gutter language used by people of low degree in your case. the only one mind controlled here is YOU. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79308786 United States 01/26/2021 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Using “know” phonetically comes out the same as “no”. Putting out a negative into the cosmos will never lead to pure unadulterated truth and facts. Believing has the word “lie” at its heart because there are too many divergent beliefs to count and everyone thinks their’s is correct which is impossible! Have faith, seek truth, negate the no’s. Oh, and dion’t be lie (v) in (g). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79982597 United States 01/26/2021 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but its not knowing by experience. God is felt within the heart.MIND IS GOD in fact.. in origin. Mind has created the entire creation in fact... and there is nothing mot made from MIND.. creative mind will by experience come to know. You know that no matter what you say you will approve you. So what? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79982597 United States 01/26/2021 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | using the word Fuck as I did is not cursing.. it is authentic communication... you are doing the mind control thing beloved...LOOK. You just fucked up in your statement to me... so you have some grace given to you. Did I say any one word or did I say constantly? Really nice old lady... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73735860 United States 01/26/2021 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing is something beyond a belief , knowing comes from direct personal experience. If someone tells you the stove is hot , don’t touch it , you can “believe” them , although unless you touch it yourself , you don’t “really ” know that it will burn you. Quoting: Bodisafa Knowing is the by product self discovery , believing is the by product of indoctrination. We are all born into this system of indoctrination , we call it our culture , however as Terence Mckenna once said “culture is not our friend”. What Terence meat by that statement is that culture is a program , a program designed to dis empower the human spirit , designed to keep us at base level of consciousness , designed to keep infinite consciousness in a box. This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. Currently, a large percentage of the population , or the collective , understand , at least subconsciously, that knowledge carries with it a personal responsibility , which is why all of the belief systems ( religion, new age, politics, science, military,education … ) on the planet are so successful , no one wants to take responsibility for themselves , they want to remain spiritual infants , because believing what others tell us is a hell of a lot easier , it requires absolutely no self discovery . As long as people are willing to trade freedom for security they will have neither , as long as they are willing to blindly believe what ever they are told , so they don’t have to think or go through the process of self discovery , then we will always have rulers and big daddy figures to fill the demand . Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable , beliefs on the other hand are given to us by someone else , most of what people believe is simply what they have been told by others, by society, through indoctrination , so people choose or shop for beliefs that make them feel good or that fit their world view . However there are universal laws , universal truths that do not require someones belief to exist, these universal laws are not belief systems , they are the way universe works , they do not require anyone’s belief to exist, they exists outside of belief constructs . Take our world view for example , much of our world view comes from the propaganda being rammed down our throats on a daily basis , but how much of it is actually the truth , we don’t know, we can’t know , because for the most part we have no personal experience of it , so we either believe it because it’s easier to let someone else tell us what is real or we go through the process of self discovery and research and discernment … in other words “we” take the responsibility in determining what is real , what is truth for ourselves, we act as a sovereign, we are self ruled and we act in harmony with the universal laws. So ask yourself each day , what do you really know , from personal experience , through inner self discovery and compare that to what your beliefs are , are they in alignment , probably not , so much of what we are told , so many of our beliefs are not in alignment with these natural or universal laws , which is why we have so much chaos in the world. So the best way that we as individuals can have an impact on our collective reality is to become knowers , instead of believers ! Lets quit blindly following and believing in systems that do not serve us, that do not move us towards expansion , growth and unity. Lets take responsibility and do the work ! Lets get off our individual and collective asses and take a hard look in the mirror , we are the ones creating this consensus reality , so are we going to simply follow the beliefs of those that seek to control and dis empower, or , are we going to educate ourselves ,do the inner or shadow work so that we can have direct knowing , which will allow us to take the “RIGHT ACTION ” in creating a more unified , balanced , holistic individual and collective experience. Let us regain our sovereign nature and become the self leaders, the self rulers that we are and in doing so we will no longer need all of the beliefs that no longer serve us ,and we can consciously co create the world, that we say , we actually want, you know like … peace , prosperity…FREEDOM! "Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable." Without God's grace you got nothing. I did it not by my actions but by God's grace. Why me? God's grace does not judge it just happens even out of turn to the lowliest aka me. I do very little but get much done. How? God's grace. BINGO NAILED IT AND GODS GRACE PROVIDES THAT MEASURE OF FAITH THAT CAN BE USED TO ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST FAILURE TO DO SO ENDS IN DEATH HOWEVER BY ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST THAT IS THE TRUTH THAT IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT RENEWS THE MIND FROM WHAT WAS KNOWN IN IMPERFECTION TO WHAT IS KNOWN IN PERFECTION |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73735860 United States 01/26/2021 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The truth will always be the truth even if no one believes in it...and ultimately..the truth will set you free.but only if you KNOW it's the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79944739 AMEN BROTHER THE TRUTH IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT ALWAYS GIVES LIFE A TRUTH IS IMPERFECT INACCURATE AND INCONSISTENT ALWAYS GIVES DEATH ONCE PEOPLE GET THIS THINGS CHANGE FOREVER AMEN |
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User ID: 33686933 United States 01/26/2021 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has this "culture" been purposefully designed to prevent Sentient Beings from uniting and manifesting the world in which we want to live? Keeping US all chasing our tails trying to make sense of it all awhile it crumbles around us, because our intent is focused on the wrong things?? WE are too divided and too busy just trying to survive this vile world we have been force-fed to focus all of that intent on an oasis... would this explain the "distancing" and the forced closing of the places of collective "worship"? (churches, gyms, bars & restaurants) :peace: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73735860 United States 01/26/2021 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing is something beyond a belief , knowing comes from direct personal experience. If someone tells you the stove is hot , don’t touch it , you can “believe” them , although unless you touch it yourself , you don’t “really ” know that it will burn you. Quoting: Bodisafa Knowing is the by product self discovery , believing is the by product of indoctrination. We are all born into this system of indoctrination , we call it our culture , however as Terence Mckenna once said “culture is not our friend”. What Terence meat by that statement is that culture is a program , a program designed to dis empower the human spirit , designed to keep us at base level of consciousness , designed to keep infinite consciousness in a box. This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. Currently, a large percentage of the population , or the collective , understand , at least subconsciously, that knowledge carries with it a personal responsibility , which is why all of the belief systems ( religion, new age, politics, science, military,education … ) on the planet are so successful , no one wants to take responsibility for themselves , they want to remain spiritual infants , because believing what others tell us is a hell of a lot easier , it requires absolutely no self discovery . As long as people are willing to trade freedom for security they will have neither , as long as they are willing to blindly believe what ever they are told , so they don’t have to think or go through the process of self discovery , then we will always have rulers and big daddy figures to fill the demand . Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable , beliefs on the other hand are given to us by someone else , most of what people believe is simply what they have been told by others, by society, through indoctrination , so people choose or shop for beliefs that make them feel good or that fit their world view . However there are universal laws , universal truths that do not require someones belief to exist, these universal laws are not belief systems , they are the way universe works , they do not require anyone’s belief to exist, they exists outside of belief constructs . Take our world view for example , much of our world view comes from the propaganda being rammed down our throats on a daily basis , but how much of it is actually the truth , we don’t know, we can’t know , because for the most part we have no personal experience of it , so we either believe it because it’s easier to let someone else tell us what is real or we go through the process of self discovery and research and discernment … in other words “we” take the responsibility in determining what is real , what is truth for ourselves, we act as a sovereign, we are self ruled and we act in harmony with the universal laws. So ask yourself each day , what do you really know , from personal experience , through inner self discovery and compare that to what your beliefs are , are they in alignment , probably not , so much of what we are told , so many of our beliefs are not in alignment with these natural or universal laws , which is why we have so much chaos in the world. So the best way that we as individuals can have an impact on our collective reality is to become knowers , instead of believers ! Lets quit blindly following and believing in systems that do not serve us, that do not move us towards expansion , growth and unity. Lets take responsibility and do the work ! Lets get off our individual and collective asses and take a hard look in the mirror , we are the ones creating this consensus reality , so are we going to simply follow the beliefs of those that seek to control and dis empower, or , are we going to educate ourselves ,do the inner or shadow work so that we can have direct knowing , which will allow us to take the “RIGHT ACTION ” in creating a more unified , balanced , holistic individual and collective experience. Let us regain our sovereign nature and become the self leaders, the self rulers that we are and in doing so we will no longer need all of the beliefs that no longer serve us ,and we can consciously co create the world, that we say , we actually want, you know like … peace , prosperity…FREEDOM! This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. WE ARE ALL BORN IMPERFECT SO OUR DISCERNMENT IS IMPERFECT SUBJECT TO ERROR BECAUSE OF THIS IMPERFECTION ONE WILL NEVER GET THE RIGHT ANSWER ONLY CHASE ONE'S TAIL FOREVER WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW UNLESS YOU ACCEPT THE BASE LINE OF ABSOLUTE PERFECTION WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST YOU WILL NEVER GET THE RIGHT ANSWER TO ANYTHING |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73735860 United States 01/26/2021 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The truth will always be the truth even if no one believes in it...and ultimately..the truth will set you free.but only if you KNOW it's the truth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79944739 AMEN BROTHER THE TRUTH IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT ALWAYS GIVES LIFE A ALWAYS GIVES DEATH ONCE PEOPLE GET THIS THINGS CHANGE FOREVER AMEN SO YOU THINK A LIE IS NOT IMPERFECT INACCURATE OR INCONSISTENT WHERE IS YOUR PROOF??? |
c major User ID: 78080775 United Kingdom 01/26/2021 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU shall!! know the truth & the truth shall!! set you free!!!,,,the all truth promised via the spirit of truth sent later given oto st paul&the apostles,the revelation of the gospel of grace of christ dying for the sins of the whole world & so freeing them from sin by his death even atoning for the sin of unberlief & freeing them all from the command to do works of law & the condemnation of eternal death ofor not doing works of law ! all achieved by christs death buriel& ressurection from death |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73735860 United States 01/26/2021 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has this "culture" been purposefully designed to prevent Sentient Beings from uniting and manifesting the world in which we want to live? Keeping US all chasing our tails trying to make sense of it all awhile it crumbles around us, because our intent is focused on the wrong things?? WE are too divided and too busy just trying to survive this vile world we have been force-fed to focus all of that intent on an oasis... would this explain the "distancing" and the forced closing of the places of collective "worship"? (churches, gyms, bars & restaurants) YOU ARE CORRECT EXCEPT FOR ONE THING THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM IS THE REASON FOR DISTANCING, FORCED CLOSINGS THE KEY WORD IS FORCE THAT IS VIOLENCE THAT IS SATAN ONCE YOU DEFINE THE TERMS CORRECTLY THEN YOU CAN BE SET FREE FREE INDEED |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73735860 United States 01/26/2021 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU shall!! know the truth & the truth shall!! set you free!!!,,,the all truth promised via the spirit of truth sent later given oto st paul&the apostles,the revelation of the gospel of grace of christ dying for the sins of the whole world & so freeing them from sin by his death even atoning for the sin of unberlief & freeing them all from the command to do works of law & the condemnation of eternal death ofor not doing works of law ! all achieved by christs death buriel& ressurection from death Quoting: c major 78080775 WELL SAID IF ONLY PEOPLE COULD HEAR THESE WORDS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76731271 Canada 01/26/2021 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing is something beyond a belief , knowing comes from direct personal experience. If someone tells you the stove is hot , don’t touch it , you can “believe” them , although unless you touch it yourself , you don’t “really ” know that it will burn you. Quoting: Bodisafa Knowing is the by product self discovery , believing is the by product of indoctrination. We are all born into this system of indoctrination , we call it our culture , however as Terence Mckenna once said “culture is not our friend”. What Terence meat by that statement is that culture is a program , a program designed to dis empower the human spirit , designed to keep us at base level of consciousness , designed to keep infinite consciousness in a box. This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. Currently, a large percentage of the population , or the collective , understand , at least subconsciously, that knowledge carries with it a personal responsibility , which is why all of the belief systems ( religion, new age, politics, science, military,education … ) on the planet are so successful , no one wants to take responsibility for themselves , they want to remain spiritual infants , because believing what others tell us is a hell of a lot easier , it requires absolutely no self discovery . As long as people are willing to trade freedom for security they will have neither , as long as they are willing to blindly believe what ever they are told , so they don’t have to think or go through the process of self discovery , then we will always have rulers and big daddy figures to fill the demand . Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable , beliefs on the other hand are given to us by someone else , most of what people believe is simply what they have been told by others, by society, through indoctrination , so people choose or shop for beliefs that make them feel good or that fit their world view . However there are universal laws , universal truths that do not require someones belief to exist, these universal laws are not belief systems , they are the way universe works , they do not require anyone’s belief to exist, they exists outside of belief constructs . Take our world view for example , much of our world view comes from the propaganda being rammed down our throats on a daily basis , but how much of it is actually the truth , we don’t know, we can’t know , because for the most part we have no personal experience of it , so we either believe it because it’s easier to let someone else tell us what is real or we go through the process of self discovery and research and discernment … in other words “we” take the responsibility in determining what is real , what is truth for ourselves, we act as a sovereign, we are self ruled and we act in harmony with the universal laws. So ask yourself each day , what do you really know , from personal experience , through inner self discovery and compare that to what your beliefs are , are they in alignment , probably not , so much of what we are told , so many of our beliefs are not in alignment with these natural or universal laws , which is why we have so much chaos in the world. So the best way that we as individuals can have an impact on our collective reality is to become knowers , instead of believers ! Lets quit blindly following and believing in systems that do not serve us, that do not move us towards expansion , growth and unity. Lets take responsibility and do the work ! Lets get off our individual and collective asses and take a hard look in the mirror , we are the ones creating this consensus reality , so are we going to simply follow the beliefs of those that seek to control and dis empower, or , are we going to educate ourselves ,do the inner or shadow work so that we can have direct knowing , which will allow us to take the “RIGHT ACTION ” in creating a more unified , balanced , holistic individual and collective experience. Let us regain our sovereign nature and become the self leaders, the self rulers that we are and in doing so we will no longer need all of the beliefs that no longer serve us ,and we can consciously co create the world, that we say , we actually want, you know like … peace , prosperity…FREEDOM! "Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable." Without God's grace you got nothing. I did it not by my actions but by God's grace. Why me? God's grace does not judge it just happens even out of turn to the lowliest aka me. I do very little but get much done. How? God's grace. God's grace allows you to fuck up a lot so you gain wisdom. Perhaps what the other poster meant was that God blessed him a stronger connection to Higher Self/Soul/Source, enabling him to have fast track access and remembrance of divine wisdom, bypassing the normal but very slow way we normally gain wisdom which is through many lifetimes of experiences. We have free will within the bounds of God's will. Sometimes God will flash awaken some people to perform certain tasks that could only be carried out when they have higher wisdom and maturity. This is not a case of some people being spiritually superior or chosen, which are low thinking human concepts. We are all equally important doing what each of us do to make this part of reality work. All the best! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73735860 United States 01/26/2021 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arguing about faith, while in a simulation most refuse to see. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77408763 How truly neat, and sad. It’s all a show, the greatest ever known. Enjoy it =) THE PROCESS OF ARGUMENT IS TO FIND THE TRUTH WHICH IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT BUT THE ARGUMENT IS NOT DESIGNED TO FIND THE TRUTH BUT TO LOOK FOR IT ENDLESSLY FOREVER FOR IF YOU FOUND IT YOU WOULD BE SET FREE FROM THE ARGUMENT AND ENTER INTO THE TRUTH THE ARGUMENT IS A TOOL OF THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM DESIGNED TO KEEP YOU FROM JESUS CHRIST MISSION ACCOMPLISHED |
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Bruno Undnochetwas
User ID: 79980762 Germany 01/26/2021 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How the words are used in hope to get understood. You are standing before a task and have an idea how to resolve. Do you think, know or believe the idea will work. If it doesn't, in your excuse, you will correlate to what. I have this, this or that that the idea works. The meaning is always the same: summed up you are no god. It's a matter of taste and the environment what gives the punch. About matters of taste there is no end of debate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79862390 United Kingdom 01/26/2021 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing is something beyond a belief , knowing comes from direct personal experience. If someone tells you the stove is hot , don’t touch it , you can “believe” them , although unless you touch it yourself , you don’t “really ” know that it will burn you. Quoting: Bodisafa Knowing is the by product self discovery , believing is the by product of indoctrination. We are all born into this system of indoctrination , we call it our culture , however as Terence Mckenna once said “culture is not our friend”. What Terence meat by that statement is that culture is a program , a program designed to dis empower the human spirit , designed to keep us at base level of consciousness , designed to keep infinite consciousness in a box. This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. Currently, a large percentage of the population , or the collective , understand , at least subconsciously, that knowledge carries with it a personal responsibility , which is why all of the belief systems ( religion, new age, politics, science, military,education … ) on the planet are so successful , no one wants to take responsibility for themselves , they want to remain spiritual infants , because believing what others tell us is a hell of a lot easier , it requires absolutely no self discovery . As long as people are willing to trade freedom for security they will have neither , as long as they are willing to blindly believe what ever they are told , so they don’t have to think or go through the process of self discovery , then we will always have rulers and big daddy figures to fill the demand . Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable , beliefs on the other hand are given to us by someone else , most of what people believe is simply what they have been told by others, by society, through indoctrination , so people choose or shop for beliefs that make them feel good or that fit their world view . However there are universal laws , universal truths that do not require someones belief to exist, these universal laws are not belief systems , they are the way universe works , they do not require anyone’s belief to exist, they exists outside of belief constructs . Take our world view for example , much of our world view comes from the propaganda being rammed down our throats on a daily basis , but how much of it is actually the truth , we don’t know, we can’t know , because for the most part we have no personal experience of it , so we either believe it because it’s easier to let someone else tell us what is real or we go through the process of self discovery and research and discernment … in other words “we” take the responsibility in determining what is real , what is truth for ourselves, we act as a sovereign, we are self ruled and we act in harmony with the universal laws. So ask yourself each day , what do you really know , from personal experience , through inner self discovery and compare that to what your beliefs are , are they in alignment , probably not , so much of what we are told , so many of our beliefs are not in alignment with these natural or universal laws , which is why we have so much chaos in the world. So the best way that we as individuals can have an impact on our collective reality is to become knowers , instead of believers ! Lets quit blindly following and believing in systems that do not serve us, that do not move us towards expansion , growth and unity. Lets take responsibility and do the work ! Lets get off our individual and collective asses and take a hard look in the mirror , we are the ones creating this consensus reality , so are we going to simply follow the beliefs of those that seek to control and dis empower, or , are we going to educate ourselves ,do the inner or shadow work so that we can have direct knowing , which will allow us to take the “RIGHT ACTION ” in creating a more unified , balanced , holistic individual and collective experience. Let us regain our sovereign nature and become the self leaders, the self rulers that we are and in doing so we will no longer need all of the beliefs that no longer serve us ,and we can consciously co create the world, that we say , we actually want, you know like … peace , prosperity…FREEDOM! In all my probably almost 20 years lurking here, I have to say... your post is the most INCREDIBLE I have EVER seen.... and that scares me. Ive seen the most incredible things which could be said are beyond believing, but....are also beyond knowing. Terence has been places we can not imagine....even though we frequently visit. He had the amazing talent of words and descriptions of journeys into the human mind and realms beyond.... Oh and the realms beyond are there. You are absolutely spot on, we do need to become knowers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79934078 United States 01/26/2021 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing is something beyond a belief , knowing comes from direct personal experience. If someone tells you the stove is hot , don’t touch it , you can “believe” them , although unless you touch it yourself , you don’t “really ” know that it will burn you. Quoting: Bodisafa Knowing is the by product self discovery , believing is the by product of indoctrination. We are all born into this system of indoctrination , we call it our culture , however as Terence Mckenna once said “culture is not our friend”. What Terence meat by that statement is that culture is a program , a program designed to dis empower the human spirit , designed to keep us at base level of consciousness , designed to keep infinite consciousness in a box. This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. Currently, a large percentage of the population , or the collective , understand , at least subconsciously, that knowledge carries with it a personal responsibility , which is why all of the belief systems ( religion, new age, politics, science, military,education … ) on the planet are so successful , no one wants to take responsibility for themselves , they want to remain spiritual infants , because believing what others tell us is a hell of a lot easier , it requires absolutely no self discovery . As long as people are willing to trade freedom for security they will have neither , as long as they are willing to blindly believe what ever they are told , so they don’t have to think or go through the process of self discovery , then we will always have rulers and big daddy figures to fill the demand . Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable , beliefs on the other hand are given to us by someone else , most of what people believe is simply what they have been told by others, by society, through indoctrination , so people choose or shop for beliefs that make them feel good or that fit their world view . However there are universal laws , universal truths that do not require someones belief to exist, these universal laws are not belief systems , they are the way universe works , they do not require anyone’s belief to exist, they exists outside of belief constructs . Take our world view for example , much of our world view comes from the propaganda being rammed down our throats on a daily basis , but how much of it is actually the truth , we don’t know, we can’t know , because for the most part we have no personal experience of it , so we either believe it because it’s easier to let someone else tell us what is real or we go through the process of self discovery and research and discernment … in other words “we” take the responsibility in determining what is real , what is truth for ourselves, we act as a sovereign, we are self ruled and we act in harmony with the universal laws. So ask yourself each day , what do you really know , from personal experience , through inner self discovery and compare that to what your beliefs are , are they in alignment , probably not , so much of what we are told , so many of our beliefs are not in alignment with these natural or universal laws , which is why we have so much chaos in the world. So the best way that we as individuals can have an impact on our collective reality is to become knowers , instead of believers ! Lets quit blindly following and believing in systems that do not serve us, that do not move us towards expansion , growth and unity. Lets take responsibility and do the work ! Lets get off our individual and collective asses and take a hard look in the mirror , we are the ones creating this consensus reality , so are we going to simply follow the beliefs of those that seek to control and dis empower, or , are we going to educate ourselves ,do the inner or shadow work so that we can have direct knowing , which will allow us to take the “RIGHT ACTION ” in creating a more unified , balanced , holistic individual and collective experience. Let us regain our sovereign nature and become the self leaders, the self rulers that we are and in doing so we will no longer need all of the beliefs that no longer serve us ,and we can consciously co create the world, that we say , we actually want, you know like … peace , prosperity…FREEDOM! "Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable." Without God's grace you got nothing. I did it not by my actions but by God's grace. Why me? God's grace does not judge it just happens even out of turn to the lowliest aka me. I do very little but get much done. How? God's grace. God's grace allows you to fuck up a lot so you gain wisdom. Perhaps what the other poster meant was that God blessed him a stronger connection to Higher Self/Soul/Source, enabling him to have fast track access and remembrance of divine wisdom, bypassing the normal but very slow way we normally gain wisdom which is through many lifetimes of experiences. We have free will within the bounds of God's will. Sometimes God will flash awaken some people to perform certain tasks that could only be carried out when they have higher wisdom and maturity. This is not a case of some people being spiritually superior or chosen, which are low thinking human concepts. We are all equally important doing what each of us do to make this part of reality work. All the best! I agree with much of your post.. but your inner Father can also do things to cause you to see your errors and that is grace in action... and it is the conscious HEARING of that FATHER and following the leading that can make something easier to get done.. or problems understood better. It doesn't always feel" like "grace" as you move thru that. Grace is a forgiveness first always.. .There by the Grace of God go I...mucking up as I go until I grasp the truth... by experience ... Humans arise from the animal seeding on a planet.. they are first products of the Mother of the planet.. GAIA in our case.. or the Mother Holy Spirit of a universe. when a planet is seeded with LIFE which is intended to produce eventually HUMAN MIND. but Human Mind must grow by experience and muck ups and fuck ups and then the coming of wisdom obtained thru introspection of the muck up and fuck ups. It can be no other way... You cannot grow your God MIND any other way in fact. and that is what the allowance of GRACE is about...and why the concept of Hell has to go too.. because it does not exist.. always there is by the GRACE OF GOD GO I.... all the way to Paradise and problem solving and experience does not expire there either. ALWAYS BY THE GRACE OF GOD GO I.. moving always upward in your spirit. And that is even the nature of the cosmos.. for it is by the GRACE all evolves and growth never stops.. including the angelic realms too. Of which Humans become part of in due time. Christ Jesus is still Learning around this lucifer rebellion and his coming to serve the earth again in BODY... but not by birth with his angels.. Learning never ever stops.. There by the GRACE of the FATHEr also goes Christ Jesus.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79983189 Ireland 01/26/2021 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing is something beyond a belief , knowing comes from direct personal experience. If someone tells you the stove is hot , don’t touch it , you can “believe” them , although unless you touch it yourself , you don’t “really ” know that it will burn you. Quoting: Bodisafa Knowing is the by product self discovery , believing is the by product of indoctrination. We are all born into this system of indoctrination , we call it our culture , however as Terence Mckenna once said “culture is not our friend”. What Terence meat by that statement is that culture is a program , a program designed to dis empower the human spirit , designed to keep us at base level of consciousness , designed to keep infinite consciousness in a box. This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. Currently, a large percentage of the population , or the collective , understand , at least subconsciously, that knowledge carries with it a personal responsibility , which is why all of the belief systems ( religion, new age, politics, science, military,education … ) on the planet are so successful , no one wants to take responsibility for themselves , they want to remain spiritual infants , because believing what others tell us is a hell of a lot easier , it requires absolutely no self discovery . As long as people are willing to trade freedom for security they will have neither , as long as they are willing to blindly believe what ever they are told , so they don’t have to think or go through the process of self discovery , then we will always have rulers and big daddy figures to fill the demand . Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable , beliefs on the other hand are given to us by someone else , most of what people believe is simply what they have been told by others, by society, through indoctrination , so people choose or shop for beliefs that make them feel good or that fit their world view . However there are universal laws , universal truths that do not require someones belief to exist, these universal laws are not belief systems , they are the way universe works , they do not require anyone’s belief to exist, they exists outside of belief constructs . Take our world view for example , much of our world view comes from the propaganda being rammed down our throats on a daily basis , but how much of it is actually the truth , we don’t know, we can’t know , because for the most part we have no personal experience of it , so we either believe it because it’s easier to let someone else tell us what is real or we go through the process of self discovery and research and discernment … in other words “we” take the responsibility in determining what is real , what is truth for ourselves, we act as a sovereign, we are self ruled and we act in harmony with the universal laws. So ask yourself each day , what do you really know , from personal experience , through inner self discovery and compare that to what your beliefs are , are they in alignment , probably not , so much of what we are told , so many of our beliefs are not in alignment with these natural or universal laws , which is why we have so much chaos in the world. So the best way that we as individuals can have an impact on our collective reality is to become knowers , instead of believers ! Lets quit blindly following and believing in systems that do not serve us, that do not move us towards expansion , growth and unity. Lets take responsibility and do the work ! Lets get off our individual and collective asses and take a hard look in the mirror , we are the ones creating this consensus reality , so are we going to simply follow the beliefs of those that seek to control and dis empower, or , are we going to educate ourselves ,do the inner or shadow work so that we can have direct knowing , which will allow us to take the “RIGHT ACTION ” in creating a more unified , balanced , holistic individual and collective experience. Let us regain our sovereign nature and become the self leaders, the self rulers that we are and in doing so we will no longer need all of the beliefs that no longer serve us ,and we can consciously co create the world, that we say , we actually want, you know like … peace , prosperity…FREEDOM! Best of luck.. the difference in believing and knowing for me myself was finding the initially impressive VaticanCatholic dotcom ''Sedevacantist'' site to losing complete interest half a year later with gardeners world which was a tv show with interviews on the Davinci code and how jesus married and authors going on about Freemasonry and Jesus's bloodlines.Since i have been to Fatima Portugal in 2005, i found the 3rd secret online which the Dimond Bros will block you for posting bc they're all masonic. Try the conditional Baptism rite and quickly have proof of the existence of God Jesum Christum [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77965024 Switzerland 01/26/2021 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who Knows !!! Knowing is something beyond a belief , knowing comes from direct personal experience. If someone tells you the stove is hot , don’t touch it , you can “believe” them , although unless you touch it yourself , you don’t “really ” know that it will burn you. Quoting: Bodisafa Knowing is the by product self discovery , believing is the by product of indoctrination. We are all born into this system of indoctrination , we call it our culture , however as Terence Mckenna once said “culture is not our friend”. What Terence meat by that statement is that culture is a program , a program designed to dis empower the human spirit , designed to keep us at base level of consciousness , designed to keep infinite consciousness in a box. This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. Currently, a large percentage of the population , or the collective , understand , at least subconsciously, that knowledge carries with it a personal responsibility , which is why all of the belief systems ( religion, new age, politics, science, military,education … ) on the planet are so successful , no one wants to take responsibility for themselves , they want to remain spiritual infants , because believing what others tell us is a hell of a lot easier , it requires absolutely no self discovery . As long as people are willing to trade freedom for security they will have neither , as long as they are willing to blindly believe what ever they are told , so they don’t have to think or go through the process of self discovery , then we will always have rulers and big daddy figures to fill the demand . Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable , beliefs on the other hand are given to us by someone else , most of what people believe is simply what they have been told by others, by society, through indoctrination , so people choose or shop for beliefs that make them feel good or that fit their world view . However there are universal laws , universal truths that do not require someones belief to exist, these universal laws are not belief systems , they are the way universe works , they do not require anyone’s belief to exist, they exists outside of belief constructs . Take our world view for example , much of our world view comes from the propaganda being rammed down our throats on a daily basis , but how much of it is actually the truth , we don’t know, we can’t know , because for the most part we have no personal experience of it , so we either believe it because it’s easier to let someone else tell us what is real or we go through the process of self discovery and research and discernment … in other words “we” take the responsibility in determining what is real , what is truth for ourselves, we act as a sovereign, we are self ruled and we act in harmony with the universal laws. So ask yourself each day , what do you really know , from personal experience , through inner self discovery and compare that to what your beliefs are , are they in alignment , probably not , so much of what we are told , so many of our beliefs are not in alignment with these natural or universal laws , which is why we have so much chaos in the world. So the best way that we as individuals can have an impact on our collective reality is to become knowers , instead of believers ! Lets quit blindly following and believing in systems that do not serve us, that do not move us towards expansion , growth and unity. Lets take responsibility and do the work ! Lets get off our individual and collective asses and take a hard look in the mirror , we are the ones creating this consensus reality , so are we going to simply follow the beliefs of those that seek to control and dis empower, or , are we going to educate ourselves ,do the inner or shadow work so that we can have direct knowing , which will allow us to take the “RIGHT ACTION ” in creating a more unified , balanced , holistic individual and collective experience. Let us regain our sovereign nature and become the self leaders, the self rulers that we are and in doing so we will no longer need all of the beliefs that no longer serve us ,and we can consciously co create the world, that we say , we actually want, you know like … peace , prosperity…FREEDOM! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79862390 United Kingdom 01/26/2021 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knowing is something beyond a belief , knowing comes from direct personal experience. If someone tells you the stove is hot , don’t touch it , you can “believe” them , although unless you touch it yourself , you don’t “really ” know that it will burn you. Quoting: Bodisafa Knowing is the by product self discovery , believing is the by product of indoctrination. We are all born into this system of indoctrination , we call it our culture , however as Terence Mckenna once said “culture is not our friend”. What Terence meat by that statement is that culture is a program , a program designed to dis empower the human spirit , designed to keep us at base level of consciousness , designed to keep infinite consciousness in a box. This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. Currently, a large percentage of the population , or the collective , understand , at least subconsciously, that knowledge carries with it a personal responsibility , which is why all of the belief systems ( religion, new age, politics, science, military,education … ) on the planet are so successful , no one wants to take responsibility for themselves , they want to remain spiritual infants , because believing what others tell us is a hell of a lot easier , it requires absolutely no self discovery . As long as people are willing to trade freedom for security they will have neither , as long as they are willing to blindly believe what ever they are told , so they don’t have to think or go through the process of self discovery , then we will always have rulers and big daddy figures to fill the demand . Knowing requires action , knowledge comes from doing ,by exploring, no matter where it takes you , good or bad, comfortable or uncomfortable , beliefs on the other hand are given to us by someone else , most of what people believe is simply what they have been told by others, by society, through indoctrination , so people choose or shop for beliefs that make them feel good or that fit their world view . However there are universal laws , universal truths that do not require someones belief to exist, these universal laws are not belief systems , they are the way universe works , they do not require anyone’s belief to exist, they exists outside of belief constructs . Take our world view for example , much of our world view comes from the propaganda being rammed down our throats on a daily basis , but how much of it is actually the truth , we don’t know, we can’t know , because for the most part we have no personal experience of it , so we either believe it because it’s easier to let someone else tell us what is real or we go through the process of self discovery and research and discernment … in other words “we” take the responsibility in determining what is real , what is truth for ourselves, we act as a sovereign, we are self ruled and we act in harmony with the universal laws. So ask yourself each day , what do you really know , from personal experience , through inner self discovery and compare that to what your beliefs are , are they in alignment , probably not , so much of what we are told , so many of our beliefs are not in alignment with these natural or universal laws , which is why we have so much chaos in the world. So the best way that we as individuals can have an impact on our collective reality is to become knowers , instead of believers ! Lets quit blindly following and believing in systems that do not serve us, that do not move us towards expansion , growth and unity. Lets take responsibility and do the work ! Lets get off our individual and collective asses and take a hard look in the mirror , we are the ones creating this consensus reality , so are we going to simply follow the beliefs of those that seek to control and dis empower, or , are we going to educate ourselves ,do the inner or shadow work so that we can have direct knowing , which will allow us to take the “RIGHT ACTION ” in creating a more unified , balanced , holistic individual and collective experience. Let us regain our sovereign nature and become the self leaders, the self rulers that we are and in doing so we will no longer need all of the beliefs that no longer serve us ,and we can consciously co create the world, that we say , we actually want, you know like … peace , prosperity…FREEDOM! This is why it is so important to utilize our discernment as we go through this process of waking up , we have been in a slumber , a waking dream and as we begin to open our eyes it is very challenging to “Know ” what is truth and what is manipulation. WE ARE ALL BORN IMPERFECT SO OUR DISCERNMENT IS IMPERFECT SUBJECT TO ERROR BECAUSE OF THIS IMPERFECTION ONE WILL NEVER GET THE RIGHT ANSWER ONLY CHASE ONE'S TAIL FOREVER WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW UNLESS YOU ACCEPT THE BASE LINE OF ABSOLUTE PERFECTION WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST YOU WILL NEVER GET THE RIGHT ANSWER TO ANYTHING My last post today as I am tired WE ARE ALL BORN IMPERFECT So VERY wrong on many levels. WE were ALL born PERFECT. Our PROGRAMMING BECAME our imperfection which is why we THINK we will never get "The right answer" So...... UNLESS YOU ACCEPT THE BASE LINE OF ABSOLUTE PERFECTION WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST When a tree or plant starts to sprout.... Is that NOT ABSOLUTE PERFECTION? For what it is and what it will strive to do? Have you ever heard a tree talk or a leaf whistle creating the most beautiful song? You are saying ( in all caps ) Jesus Christ is the Base Line of absolute perfection?????????? Did plants and trees NOT exist before this Base Line PERFECTION Jesus Christ? Think what the OP is bestowing. UNLESS YOU ACCEPT... Is that not programming / forcing YOUR sense of knowing / believing on others? If its good for you.... go for it. |