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Eindhoven, The Netherlands - violent riots today against reinforced pandemic regulations

 
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Eindhoven, The Netherlands - violent riots today against reinforced pandemic regulations
New restrictive regulations such as a curfew have been implemented recently in The Netherlands.

In cities such as Amsterdam, Eindhoven and other places groups of people started to riot.

The Eindhoven railway station was attacked and several stores inside the station looted (of course - EVERY TIME, what did you think).
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Other cities with active rioters - Den Haag, Venlo, Enschede.
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Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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I would not say it is *the norm* really. It happens more often than it should however IMHO. I still remember the huge riots all over France of December 2005 where many cars were burned in many cities.

And we know after all there are always agitators and activists involved who are stirring things up if they seem to peaceful, don't we?

Peaceful protesting should be possible whenever it is needed. Those hugely destructive riots is something different, especially with cars being torched and stores looted - many innocent people are victimized by this.
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The scene we are seeing here is the Museumplein in Amsterdam.
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Also 150 arrests in Brussels (Belgium) today following protests against police violence.

2 people died while in police custody recently.

After the Chovanec scandal last year (a Slovak man who was probably wrongfully arrested by the Charleroi airport police and probably died while still detained in a cell) this is probably the last 2 drops in the bucket.
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Peaceful protests should be allowed... they are, that is not the problem. This protest erupted because of the nationwide curfew that was declared. at 9 PM no one is allowed on the streets anymore.

I think the curfew decision was a poorly judged one, taken by the wrong people that did not understand at wihch point frustration was boiling in the population.

Not everyone can spend the curfew in a villa with a garden.

What also struck me when whatching the videos is that is was not the usual riot crowd in big european cities in action here, judging on the videos. This eems to be like a more genreal outburst.

Let s see what happens next....
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I've been to Holland a few times. They don't stike me as the type of people to loot. The virus must be taking a bite out of their pocketbooks for them to riot and loot.

Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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I would not say it is *the norm* really. It happens more often than it should however IMHO. I still remember the huge riots all over France of December 2005 where many cars were burned in many cities.

And we know after all there are always agitators and activists involved who are stirring things up if they seem to peaceful, don't we?

Peaceful protesting should be possible whenever it is needed. Those hugely destructive riots is something different, especially with cars being torched and stores looted - many innocent people are victimized by this.
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I've been to Holland a few times. They don't stike me as the type of people to loot. The virus must be taking a bite out of their pocketbooks for them to riot and loot.

Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440

I would not say it is *the norm* really. It happens more often than it should however IMHO. I still remember the huge riots all over France of December 2005 where many cars were burned in many cities.

And we know after all there are always agitators and activists involved who are stirring things up if they seem to peaceful, don't we?

Peaceful protesting should be possible whenever it is needed. Those hugely destructive riots is something different, especially with cars being torched and stores looted - many innocent people are victimized by this.
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They are not. The looters are usually not native Dutch.
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Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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a supermarket did get looted
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Peaceful protests should be allowed... they are, that is not the problem. This protest erupted because of the nationwide curfew that was declared. at 9 PM no one is allowed on the streets anymore.

I think the curfew decision was a poorly judged one, taken by the wrong people that did not understand at wihch point frustration was boiling in the population.

Not everyone can spend the curfew in a villa with a garden.

What also struck me when whatching the videos is that is was not the usual riot crowd in big european cities in action here, judging on the videos. This eems to be like a more genreal outburst.

Let s see what happens next....
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What do you mean by "a more general outburst"? In what way does this riot crowd seem different?

As for the curfew, yes, 9 PM seems really harsh. If I am not mistaken however, in countries such as Franc, Spain, and Portugal, they have or have had curfews as stringent if not more so.
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Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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a supermarket did get looted
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In Enschede, rioters tried to break windows of a hospital's emergency service throwing projectiles. This is stuff that goes beyond riots.

Authorities in Eindhoven say these were not protests, violence against police was the object.
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The Dutch are well known for football hooliganism this kind of thing happens often at large football games aswell... Ajax v Feynoord PSV v Ajax.... Wearing all black is a give away that most of these are probably football hooligans and anarchists combined..
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Scene in Enschede earlier this evening.

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Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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a supermarket did get looted
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In Enschede, rioters tried to break windows of a hospital's emergency service throwing projectiles. This is stuff that goes beyond riots.

Authorities in Eindhoven say these were not protests, violence against police was the object.
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yea and on Urk a test facility was burned down i believe
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The Dutch are well known for football hooliganism this kind of thing happens often at large football games aswell... Ajax v Feynoord PSV v Ajax.... Wearing all black is a give away that most of these are probably football hooligans and anarchists combined..
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Yes, the English as well.

Do you remember the many dead at the Heysel football stadion in Brussels, Belgium in their 80's? There were lots of hooligans there from everywhere but also there was panic that had broken out.
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Yup. Virus taking a bite out of their pocketbooks. Do the Dutch get stimulus checks?

Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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a supermarket did get looted
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"in THE 80's"
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Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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a supermarket did get looted
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In Enschede, rioters tried to break windows of a hospital's emergency service throwing projectiles. This is stuff that goes beyond riots.

Authorities in Eindhoven say these were not protests, violence against police was the object.
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yea and on Urk a test facility was burned down i believe
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This does not look good....
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Re: Eindhoven, The Netherlands - violent riots today against reinforced pandemic regulations
The Dutch are well known for football hooliganism this kind of thing happens often at large football games aswell... Ajax v Feynoord PSV v Ajax.... Wearing all black is a give away that most of these are probably football hooligans and anarchists combined..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79731757

Yes, the English as well.

Do you remember the many dead at the Heysel football stadion in Brussels, Belgium in their 80's? There were lots of hooligans there from everywhere but also there was panic that had broken out.
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Ya dude I'm Irish not British separate independent country... The English are as bad I agree..
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Yup. Virus taking a bite out of their pocketbooks. Do the Dutch get stimulus checks?

Very telling. It doesn't take a lot for people in Europe to protest however rioting and looting is not the norm there. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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a supermarket did get looted
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i mean we have a pretty solid unemployment thingy and i believe shop owners get stimulus too. not sure whether they are loans tho. since i could see people not being happy having to take loans out for having to keep their stores closed.
good question tbh. might have to look in to it tomorrow but i dont really know anyone thats effected by this stuff other then the guy who cuts my hair. might ask him when i see him again. the saloons owner get the 5k thing from the government but im not sure about his employees pay
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I don't know what it's like in the Netherlands probably the same...but if we could just figure out how Aldi, Lydl, Tesco's(big retail) secret that 50+ can walk around and zero closures due to Covid in the whole country in 10 months... But our business that has 4 people in max is the problem... Bullshit... people have had enough of it...
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Re: Eindhoven, The Netherlands - violent riots today against reinforced pandemic regulations
New restrictive regulations such as a curfew have been implemented recently in The Netherlands.

In cities such as Amsterdam, Eindhoven and other places groups of people started to riot.

The Eindhoven railway station was attacked and several stores inside the station looted (of course - EVERY TIME, what did you think).
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Most of the rioters aren't even aware that the curfew is about the pandemic. They just like to riot.

Of course, the curfew keeps a lot of people down. However, people are allowed to get there dogs out. So, an new company made it possible to borrow a dog! hf

Most people just adjust to the rules. And moan in solitude.
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Someone was saying these are the worst riots in 40 years...
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Most of the rioters aren't even aware that the curfew is about the pandemic. They just like to riot.

Of course, the curfew keeps a lot of people down. However, people are allowed to get there dogs out. So, an new company made it possible to borrow a dog! hf

Most people just adjust to the rules. And moan in solitude.
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Poor dogs... lol

I wonder how they must feel about that! Picture those dogs being walked by a new person every time.
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Re: Eindhoven, The Netherlands - violent riots today against reinforced pandemic regulations
New restrictive regulations such as a curfew have been implemented recently in The Netherlands.

In cities such as Amsterdam, Eindhoven and other places groups of people started to riot.

The Eindhoven railway station was attacked and several stores inside the station looted (of course - EVERY TIME, what did you think).
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New restrictive regulations such as a curfew have been implemented recently in The Netherlands.

In cities such as Amsterdam, Eindhoven and other places groups of people started to riot.

The Eindhoven railway station was attacked and several stores inside the station looted (of course - EVERY TIME, what did you think).
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