You will be outraged when you see this...who got free PPP money

Affected that is.

What I mean is 1 guy posted that his employer spread the love and gave him a bonus so they did not take all of it for themselves. But he admitted they had a banner year. So why did they get your tax dollars? And don't forget about the $5000 per employee for 2020 and $7,000 per quarter per employee for 2021. These are payroll tax credits the company gets via IRS payroll form 941 and or form 7200.

Thanks for the link, OP.

I don't know OP, I'm not feeling a lot of rage since I understand the gov shut down the economy and we all (apparently) sat back and let them.

Was this supposed to be your way of getting rid of undesirables? Let the gov create crisis and then tailor intervention to only your "worthy?"

Is that why the first reply is about churches?

I guess some of you are getting a lesson in collectivist morality; you don't control jack squat even when it's your money.

When you put your local zip codes you'll find that most businesses are taking money from this, but at 1% payback it's a no brainer.

A lot of Contractors here in San Diego, they are slammed right now with work, but yet they needed the money?

My company received $417k to cover payroll for 25 employees.
We used every penny of that money on payroll, including all 25 employees Kaiser bill which is $17k per month.
We got 100% full forgiveness because of how we used that money.

It drives me NUTS to see companies on that list with ZERO employees that received hundreds of thousand or even millions of dollars. I was forced to lay off all the workers and they were supposed to survive on unemployment in Cali which several of them never received a check. All that changed once we got the PPP and could pay the guys their full hourly rate for the 8 weeks we had that money.

Benefits: We had to pay payroll taxes each pay period which is several thousand dollars each payroll. This is NOT covered by the PPP so my company is out $39k in payroll taxes for the weeks we used the PPP money. We also had to pay workers compensation for all our employees to sit at home which was $16k and the PPP money does not cover that. However, we are fighting this because WTF. Why should an insurance company get paid to cover people for working when everyone is sitting at home?

ah yes, our local illegal alien employer at the very top....

Wheat's Lawn And Custom Landscaping, Inc VIENNA VA 22180 $1,866,838 188 employees Landscape Architectural Services

It is pointing out that lots and lots of businesses got free money that were not harmed at all.

Some of the businesses really suffered and still are suffering. A lot of them did not and are not.

I can see churches suffering because tithes are down - right? People did not attend church. I am not a church hater.

But other people did the same or better and still got free $.

i.e. if you use a lawyer or CPA did you not use their services due to covid? Hell no you still got what you needed from the lawyer and the CPA still did your tax return. Many still wnet to the doctor. Why are they in my area getting enormous sums of money? Real estate agents in my state did very well. Better in 2020 than they did in 2019. Why did they gets lots of $?

Do you have an issue with someone like Tom Brady or congress people getting free $? Where does it end? Also, even so a rightfully so needy restaurant hit hard.
Aren't we in a free market so if they fold they fold? Why do you and I have to pay for their payroll and rent to keep them open? Where does it end?

There is no payback on PPP You can get it 100% forgiven. EIDL loans must be paid back.

PPP = free no payback if you use for rent payroll utilities
EIDL payback over 30 years

What if I'm not a business owner, can I still get some free money this way?

yes you see my point of posting.

As well as what if their business was down. Are we not a free market economy let them fold or should you be forced to pay to prop them up? That is the discussion issue, moral points etc.

Forgivable loans

While I agree with you in principle, this collapse was orchestrated 100% by the State. It's one thing to let failing companies crash due to mismanagement but the least the State can do is help to prop up the jobs they are FORCING to close.

But make no mistake - this is all a part of the Great Reset. In order to implement a central planning department, they need to ruin the nation first. The single best way to do that is to have the State kill the jobs in the name of 'safety' so the people are so desperate for work they will vote in a Central Planning Department not knowing wtf it actually does.

Thanks for the link OP. Checked out my area and looks like almost every business in our town got some PPP. I applied for PPP funds for our business and received it last year and it was 100% forgiven. Just applied for the 2nd round PPP and was approved. Our business did suffer economically, 25% reduction even though we were operating the whole time. I also applied for EIDL but only took the advance that was forgiven, but did not accept the $100,000+ loan they offered.

The good news is that fraud is now legal - as long as its with taxpayer dollars - right?

Just ask any demoncrat..

In my area, 37862 tn. I noticed most of the businesses that took the loot remained opened. The top takers off PPP are very wealthy folks.

So basically the businesses get free labor as the workers were there but the tax payers got to pay their paychecks. I could understand if they closed the doors or sent people home and used the money to stay afloat. But hell no! They remained open and at full capacity and took the loot.

Funeral homes LOL! The bodies would be stacked like cord wood as death does not consider shutdowns.

I only use my area as an example as we do not see economic downturns like the rest of the country. During the gulf oil spill crisis we grew 6% as Gatlinburg, Pigeon forge, Sevierville area is a nice middle of the road getaway. Our town has seen a lot of tourists this year. You would think the hotels and restaurants would have applied more so than the other entities.

I guess they all have creative accountants who advised them to apply for the free loot.

if you got ppp2 then yes by default that means you took a hit. As far as every business in your town getting ppp 1 it is evil. Not all of them suffered. We have to pay for their free $.

my fear is wait until the stimulus round 3 or 4 or 5 and so on with them

The program wasn't means tested but forgiveness is qualified. If someone misrepresented their payroll/FTEs, they are paying that back at 1%. This isn't "free money" like the CARES Act.

Do you talk to CPAs and Drs? Many took a hit. People had less money. My PCP turned away everyone for 3+ months, same with the kids' pedi. They would not see anyone. CPAs typically make money when their clients make money (otherwise, what taxes are they paying?!?).

Thanks op this is a great find.
I found some interesting handouts.Even saw a guy I work for
got a loan. The worst offender has gotta be liquor stores.
They re sales went up.

I dont see any local restaurants, gyms, beauty supplies there, just doctors and plumbers and contractors. Have never heard of any of them, been here 25 years!

A Kenyan phag who started destroying this nation and works for Netflix got millions. His wiggur pet on a leash got billions and got promoted via fraud to President Senile Wiggur.



Last Edited by Dollar Bill on 01/24/2021 12:48 PM

Cheating the system is something to complain about, but for most of these businesses, it's a matter of taking the loan, within their legal rights, or the government will give double to the competition.

It's just business.

Most “churches” are part of the corporation.

So what; are you afraid they'll run out of ink or something? Its just paper, print print print!


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WTF a lawnscaping service got 1.3 million here...

It looks like every realtor in town took PPP...and it was a record year for home sales, with prices increasing ~25%. My home's value is now 50% more than when I bought it 4 years ago.

I should get out before that changes.

I am tempted to apply knowing I was going to retire anyway. I think that's slimy of me, but free money is free money right??