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Proposed new federal tax on number of miles you drive....... Here we go!!

 
Secretizer

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Isn't it a communist state, where you have to pay taxes on your own property? Why should i pay for honestly paid house, if it not utilities payment? The state haven't given me a penny to buy house or car. Otherwise thay can charge payment for riding their roads.
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Because It is NOT your own property.

They own it and they own you.

That is how they view it and just as they give us the illusion that our votes count they give us an illusion that our deeds count.
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Rural america will be crushed if they do that. Rural america has to travel many miles to have a good job.
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That’s the goal. They want to force people to live on top of each other in urban hellholes where everyone walks or takes the subway. That way people are dependent on public infrastructure. They want to make it very expensive for people to have independence and live in wide open spaces.
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I can't understand why anyone in America is poor...There's opportunity and money absolutely everywhere...
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because we are told:

> the poor you will always have with you

remember who said that and to whom?

Judas was told that, after he complained that the costly perfume could have been sold and the money given to the poor
 Quoting: Red John


Yes, but debt has destroyed too many middleclass people...The poor have a better net worth at zero, than most middleclass families, because debt puts them into a negative net worth...
 Quoting: BRIEF


not only debt, unfair lopsided taxation

when a few cents an hour raise can put you in to the next bracket means you take home less than what you were making before the raise

I've been there
it was a 25cents / hour raise

after that, my pay was several dollars less net than I was making before the raise
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Have payroll adjust your withholding so that you get the same each check, or a bit more...You get a tax refund so you are overpaying each check anyway...why give the government a free loan? lol
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This is why I am so fortunate to be able to work on my own cars and that I like older stuff. They can't track most cars produced before 2014 as long as it doesn't have a GPS. All cars after 2014 have devices to find and track your vehicle. Was mandated a while ago and that is why all new cars even cheap ones have all the lidar and primitive self driving correcting software at a minimum. I have been in the industry for years and have seen the changes to cars over the last 10 years. The tech used in cars today drain a 12 volt system 5 times faster than a car built 20 years ago. It is insane. My advice is to stick to cars built before 2014-2015 and even better if you get a old car with a analog meter just pop that dash and roll it back. The government will think you never drive! LOL.

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They already do this for gas vehicles through the gas tax. Now all the fancy electric vehicles will be equally taxed. Haha!!!
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I noticed a change of protocol listening to scanners. All vehicles police and ambulance must state their mileage before and after shift. Now i see why. Its going to happen guys.
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Incoming Transportation Secretary Buttigieg likes the idea... This is a direct result of higher mileage cars (both gas and electric)... This will never end, until you are not driving a car anymore (riding bus or bike, then they will just tax us on breathing...)...

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Not new theyve been talking about it for years and when people voted thi is what they voted for ..The Green New Deal and other sweeping changes that will only cost americans billions while China , India, Indonesia still pollute the world unabated without any accountability.....

Just wait till they shut off oil and natural gas by 2032...


Everyone that voted out of pure hate for trump because the media machine told you to 24/7 since he step foot in office going to get a taste of there own medicine ...

You ALl Made your bed NOw Sleep In IT.

What yu all going to do when they start tearing down your homes and office buildings when they dont meet Harris/Aoc and the Squad standards...

You all voted for it now read the sugar topped version


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there should be a 4x multiplier for people who aren't farmers or construction driving around in monster trucks. Also coal rollers and bass monkeys. 4x the rate. Then I bet they will start acting less like *******'s!
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Rural america will be crushed if they do that. Rural america has to travel many miles to have a good job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71582106


Rural America are not the ones who put the dems into office. The dems are all for city folk and screw the rest of the country. That's pretty obvious with the voting patterns in the country.
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I'll just put in a piggyback ECU or cut out for the GPS antenna. Real fucking easy for me to do but for all the idiots that voted for this shit well they're going to have to pay pay pay while I skate skate skate I kind of like this new plan it's almost like the federal government's paying me directly you know
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How about they tax the number of cox that go into their various holes and use the $ to help unemployed American citizens.

Obvious the amount of $ generated will be high!

hillary clinton no
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God damn democrats...want to tax you for driving miles. Then people who work from home....they want to tax you extra for not driving any miles because you aren't paying your share without commuting.

Democrats are the death of America. Taxation without representation is not legal. I am not represented and I am not paying anything. Joe Biden is not my President and I have no legitimate representation in the house or senate. They can all go to hell without another penny from me.
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And there isn't charging infrastructure in the rural areas and even in many cities, at the "pump-level. That isn't even to mention infrastructure required at and to the homes of everyone. I don't have an electric car, but my neighbor does. Try charging a car with household 110VAC. Putting new municiple infrastructure in place to support supply/demand requirements and new 220VAC circuits into houses, that is another pass along cost and an overall enormous undertaking...Likely subsidized by, yep, all of us.
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You brainwashed bastards that have been voting for communist all your lives should be happy with what you are allowed.However,if you have a naughty .45,use it.A .357mag,hollow point,just as good.
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How about a tax on how many steps you take per day?

Or a tax on how much oxygen you breathe throughout the day?
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It costs money to process poop. Fat people poop more than skinny people, but fat people pay the same amount of money to process poop at a waste treatment plant. That’s not fair.

I propose a tax on the amount of poop that comes from your house into the waste treatment facility.

(Say hello to a return of outhouses as people figure out ways to not get taxed)
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I agree, tax shit. We can tax all of the shit coming out of the Democratic mouths in Washington, that might pay off the budget deficit and we could have a budge surplus for the first time in decades.
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They are mulling this idea over here as well
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We pay HUGE Federa Gas Taxes already !!! The state piggybacks in that too - all Per gallon taxes
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Rural america will be crushed if they do that. Rural america has to travel many miles to have a good job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71582106


70 miles a day here in Central TX to work.
Hell, it's a 100 mile trip just to see a neighbor in West Texas.
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Isn't it a communist state, where you have to pay taxes on your own property? Why should i pay for honestly paid house, if it not utilities payment? The state haven't given me a penny to buy house or car. Otherwise thay can charge payment for riding their roads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78840817


Because It is NOT your own property.

They own it and they own you.

That is how they view it and just as they give us the illusion that our votes count they give us an illusion that our deeds count.
 Quoting: Secretizer


hesright
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It's worse than a breathing tax. Wearing a mask inhibits breathing,

And they'll find a law to fine you without it. So tax (fine) on top of inhibition of breathing naturally.
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Soon people will be able to make their own oversized drones that they can use to carry themselves.

The technology is there, and the capability to do that is very close.

Wheeled personal vehicles' time is almost up.
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Lol

That should go over well.
I predict a high casualty rate with that mode of transport.

Mad Max takes to the air!
Lol
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they now have the tech to track u 24*7
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Could just leave the cell phone at home.
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Incoming Transportation Secretary Buttigieg likes the idea... This is a direct result of higher mileage cars (both gas and electric)... This will never end, until you are not driving a car anymore (riding bus or bike, then they will just tax us on breathing...)...

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76811228


Is it just me, or is it ironic that Pete Buttigieg's last name starts with "Butt" AND he's now in charge of airport, train station and bus station restrooms all over the country?
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they now have the tech to track u 24*7
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Could just leave the cell phone at home.
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From article:

To implement a VMT system, the federal government would likely have to establish a uniform in-car system for tracking the number of miles a driver travels similar to the EZ-Pass transponder that drivers put in their vehicles to pay tolls.
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No taxation without representation. Period.
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Liberal Democrats have not seen a tax they didn't like.


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This can only end one way. Until people rise up and end these fuckers enjoy your slavery.
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Yeah, this will not pass.

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Incoming Transportation Secretary Buttigieg likes the idea... This is a direct result of higher mileage cars (both gas and electric)... This will never end, until you are not driving a car anymore (riding bus or bike, then they will just tax us on breathing...)...

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BROKEN ODOMETER... WATCH FOR FINGER
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impossibru to break it

OBDC stores the mileage info

there hasn't been a mechanical cable driven one for decades

there is a trick to lower the mileage calculated
though it requires on the fly math to avoid tickets

increase the tire size to the max that will fit in the wheel wells

larger diameter / radius / circumference = more distance traveled than the OBDC ratio is calibrated for

eg.
adding 10 inches circumference to the tires adds 10 inches travel per wheel rotation
which is not accounted for and not accumulated in the odometer
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We already pay that with the gas tax.
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Tesla owners and the like do not pay that tax.
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Then tax their asses. This is the Green Religion and I am not a member. By agreeing to this kind of thing you are being forced to join a state church and we are protected by THE Constitution guaranteeing the separation of church and state.
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We already pay that with the gas tax.
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Tesla owners and the like do not pay that tax.
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and get a nice tax break for buying one too!
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it





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