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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79653701 United Kingdom 01/22/2021 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s called the New Testament of Jesus Christ. Read it then try and disprove it. Here’s a clue, people have been trying to disprove the Bible for centuries and have been unsuccessful to this day. Well? Quoting: hillbilly123069 The Bible is full to the brim with contradictions and inconsistencies. 99% of the alleged Christians in the US are Satanists anyway, who think they are the "I", the fleshly person with name and life story, so they do not have God's spirit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79949493 Germany 01/22/2021 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s called the New Testament of Jesus Christ. Read it then try and disprove it. Here’s a clue, people have been trying to disprove the Bible for centuries and have been unsuccessful to this day. Well? Quoting: hillbilly123069 Disproving the bible is going on for centuries. That you don't know it simply shows that you are a brainwashed fool that never ever read a book outside his bubble. Had several discussions with christians that took years. Every single one of them lost his belief. First step: Find a concordant translation of the bible. This is a word-by-word translation; often done over a latin text as intermediate. Now try to find the word "hell". It doesn't exist but a few dozen other translations. Look this words up and be shocked what it really means. You never did that? Well, because you are a believer. You don't look up things, because you are sceptical. You look up things to get a proof for your oppinion. You are to weak to scrutinize your own beliefs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70769867 United States 01/22/2021 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The writings of the historian Josephus. He knew of him and was not impressed. The version of his writings view Jesus in a favorable light, but we know those comments to be false. Earlier commentary shows how he really felt, but changes were likely added to protect the lives of those people who had the book in their possession. Jesus, actually Josephus, was a common name and several are mentioned, but the one we call Jesus was noted upon, and not in a good way. |
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User ID: 77595644 United States 01/22/2021 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s called the New Testament of Jesus Christ. Read it then try and disprove it. Here’s a clue, people have been trying to disprove the Bible for centuries and have been unsuccessful to this day. Well? Quoting: hillbilly123069 The Bible is full to the brim with contradictions and inconsistencies. 99% of the alleged Christians in the US are Satanists anyway, who think they are the "I", the fleshly person with name and life story, so they do not have God's spirit. Your opinion doesn’t count you are from Britain. Follower of Jesus (FoJ) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70769867 United States 01/22/2021 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The writings of the historian Josephus. He knew of him and was not impressed. The version of his writings view Jesus in a favorable light, but we know those comments to be false. Earlier commentary shows how he really felt, but changes were likely added to protect the lives of those people who had the book in their possession. Jesus, actually Josephus, was a common name and several are mentioned, but the one we call Jesus was noted upon, and not in a good way. Note: No ,"J" was used, or existed at the time, So we have our own interpretations of the words and names. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72436364 United States 01/22/2021 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s called the New Testament of Jesus Christ. Read it then try and disprove it. Here’s a clue, people have been trying to disprove the Bible for centuries and have been unsuccessful to this day. Well? Quoting: hillbilly123069 Disproving the bible is going on for centuries. That you don't know it simply shows that you are a brainwashed fool that never ever read a book outside his bubble. Had several discussions with christians that took years. Every single one of them lost his belief. First step: Find a concordant translation of the bible. This is a word-by-word translation; often done over a latin text as intermediate. Now try to find the word "hell". It doesn't exist but a few dozen other translations. Look this words up and be shocked what it really means. You never did that? Well, because you are a believer. You don't look up things, because you are sceptical. You look up things to get a proof for your oppinion. You are to weak to scrutinize your own beliefs. Ah, so After thousands of years and thousands of biblical scholars who dedicated their lives to studying and interpreting the Bible, you - an AC from Germany - has surpassed their collective intelligence. Yeah right. |
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User ID: 76832232 United States 01/22/2021 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was a composite character. The Holy Roman Universal (Catholic in Greek) Church created this composite character, because at the time they were expending a lot of resources putting out religious wars and conflicts. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but like many things it got perverted. Yeshua Ben Joseph, was a rabbi who lived from 70BC to 9 BC. He was apparently crucified at some point, charged with being a thief of sorts. Prior to that there was a man by the name of Rabbi Hallel who apparently died in 100BC. Rabbi Hallel was called "The Great Teacher". Many Christians are led to believe that a man named Jesus was called this, when in fact it was Rabbi Hallel. Now, what happened was that the New Testament composite character of "Jesus The Christ" was created by the Council of Nicea by combining certain previous God-men that people had been following. Yeshua Ben Joseph was of the royal line, but he tried to create rebellion against Roman tyranny as well. Now, there was also another Yeshua. Yes, it was a very common name then in Judea. Another Yeshua was a rabbi who was also a rebel, of sorts. He died at Massada in 64 AD, and his presence at Massada was why Massada was attacked. His name was Yeshua Malathiel. The bottom line is there was no "Jesus Christ" in history at all. It was a composite character, and history reveals this fact. [link to werdsmith.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70769867 United States 01/22/2021 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus was a composite character. Quoting: 3643297 The Holy Roman Universal (Catholic in Greek) Church created this composite character, because at the time they were expending a lot of resources putting out religious wars and conflicts. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but like many things it got perverted. Yeshua Ben Joseph, was a rabbi who lived from 70BC to 9 BC. He was apparently crucified at some point, charged with being a thief of sorts. Prior to that there was a man by the name of Rabbi Hallel who apparently died in 100BC. Rabbi Hallel was called "The Great Teacher". Many Christians are led to believe that a man named Jesus was called this, when in fact it was Rabbi Hallel. Now, what happened was that the New Testament composite character of "Jesus The Christ" was created by the Council of Nicea by combining certain previous God-men that people had been following. Yeshua Ben Joseph was of the royal line, but he tried to create rebellion against Roman tyranny as well. Now, there was also another Yeshua. Yes, it was a very common name then in Judea. Another Yeshua was a rabbi who was also a rebel, of sorts. He died at Massada in 64 AD, and his presence at Massada was why Massada was attacked. His name was Yeshua Malathiel. The bottom line is there was no "Jesus Christ" in history at all. It was a composite character, and history reveals this fact. [link to werdsmith.com (secure)] So you have gone from 'no Jesus' to several and then say none of these was the one. I could just as easily argue for any one of them. Your conclusion is at odds with what you have stated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78020158 United States 01/22/2021 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Josephus's reference is a well known forgery. There are no non Biblical references to Jesus. The whole story was placed in Jerusalem after the Roman destruction because there was no one there to dispute it. The character was copywrited in Alexandria, became a hit when adopted by Roman Law. Told over and over, the whole moral basis of European civilization is a lie that justifies whatever is necessary. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79949493 Germany 01/22/2021 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s called the New Testament of Jesus Christ. Read it then try and disprove it. Here’s a clue, people have been trying to disprove the Bible for centuries and have been unsuccessful to this day. Well? Quoting: hillbilly123069 Disproving the bible is going on for centuries. That you don't know it simply shows that you are a brainwashed fool that never ever read a book outside his bubble. Had several discussions with christians that took years. Every single one of them lost his belief. First step: Find a concordant translation of the bible. This is a word-by-word translation; often done over a latin text as intermediate. Now try to find the word "hell". It doesn't exist but a few dozen other translations. Look this words up and be shocked what it really means. You never did that? Well, because you are a believer. You don't look up things, because you are sceptical. You look up things to get a proof for your oppinion. You are to weak to scrutinize your own beliefs. Ah, so After thousands of years and thousands of biblical scholars who dedicated their lives to studying and interpreting the Bible, you - an AC from Germany - has surpassed their collective intelligence. Yeah right. The difference between you and me is, I want proof. I don't trust arguments like "thousands of scholars said..." That means NOTHING. You have no clue what this scholars said, you have no idea of the internal discussion and the critical discourse. You only want to believe and you are happy to skip everything else. It is not possible to give you a proof if you don't want to hear it. Stay in your bubble. I bet all your neighbours are in the same church and everyone you know simply acknowledge everything you believe. I already showed such people that their belief was ultimately wrong. It's always a mess when someone understand it and now have to tell the family. Stay in your fairy-tale word. Your believes are no better than believing in Harry Potter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70769867 United States 01/22/2021 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Josephus's reference is a well known forgery. There are no non Biblical references to Jesus. The whole story was placed in Jerusalem after the Roman destruction because there was no one there to dispute it. The character was copywrited in Alexandria, became a hit when adopted by Roman Law. Told over and over, the whole moral basis of European civilization is a lie that justifies whatever is necessary. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78020158 Forgery is a bit of an overstatement. His work was detailed and thorough. That the work has been tampered-with through the ages is inarguable. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79949493 Germany 01/22/2021 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do an internet search of the letter from Pontius Pilate. Pontius met Jesus and wrote to Ceasar and described Jesus in detail in the letter. The letter is now in a museum. I can't remember which museum, but an internet search will find it. It is in the same museum that shows bones of giants. Basically it is a fake. There is no such letter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70769867 United States 01/22/2021 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a made up story, this one is lacking. No long periods. No noble oratory. No miracles in full view of the crowd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79949493 Germany 01/22/2021 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easy. The "missing link" between man and apes was first found in 1856. Now the believers said "well, and where is the link between this finding and the ape", and so the do for 170 years now. That is because the missed DNA-Analysis, which now gives as the proof a few bones themself can't deliver. You can say "missing link" forever, if you like it. But the missing link has been found a long time ago and was proved with dozens of methods different from biology. Additionally, we now know there is no thing like a "missing link", because evolution is not linear. |
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