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Causation and the unseen world...

 
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what about all the millions of hindus or bhuddists? you really think god is so loving that he will just cast them all to hell for literal eternity?

what about a bushman in the most remote area of africa, who literally has no concept of god. i suppose he'd burn in hell for eternity also?

come on dude
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I asked the same question when I was 12. Jehovas' witnessses class in school said 144k saved, and no room for error. I quit then, so did my family. I'm not knocking the Bible, people just interpret it as they see fit. Live and learn, and yes, trust in God. hf
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Trust in Jesus Christ...

But you lot don't like to pronounce his name, do you?

I wonder why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79963306


Yeshuah Ben Joseph

Born to Mary and Joseph.

Essene Priest and Priestess.

The 13th Tribe.

Not sure how his name was changed to Jesus - but I would follow that guy into hell.

Just Sayin.

Did ya ever check out the info on the teachings He did in the East?

At some point, you just recognize the message...

It has been coming through for as long as humans have been here.

Peace.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


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Today arising at 6:30 as often is done... Someone didn't like it...


the cause was unseen... So I turned on a light.

#@&

hereweare
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How you doin?
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Something about reflections... teaches us... while it is... IS strange... here in wyrdo wyrld... We're all playing the same game.

just sayin
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needs, wants, desires, compulsions, cravings all birth in fertile soil of fear (illusion), lack and poverty of mind. and failure of presence.

the obvious truth so many refuse.
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grinning
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grinning
 Quoting: 1412



hihugs
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
under wandering stars I've grown,
by myself, but not alone...

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grinning
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ohyeah
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we are here, because of ... Wanting.
Is that true?
Wanting... To be. Fear of non existence. threads seam ... 1dunno1
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needs, wants, desires, compulsions, cravings all birth in fertile soil of fear (illusion), lack and poverty of mind. and failure of presence.

the obvious truth so many refuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79966246


so... Fear is good! It's like... The mountain.
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we are here, because of ... Wanting.
Is that true?
Wanting... To be. Fear of non existence. threads seam ... 1dunno1
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No. You could make everything dependent on cheese if you wanted due to the sophistication philosophy has given our rhetoric. That only means that people quickly grow jaded with insincere verbal appeals and nothing convinces or changes hearts any longer. Philosophy and rhetoric and the people who used them only ever respected inducing fear, and thus everything is denominated in them.
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we are here, because of ... Wanting.
Is that true?
Wanting... To be. Fear of non existence. threads seam ... 1dunno1
 Quoting: a c 41950329


No. You could make everything dependent on cheese if you wanted due to the sophistication philosophy has given our rhetoric. That only means that people quickly grow jaded with insincere verbal appeals and nothing convinces or changes hearts any longer. Philosophy and rhetoric and the people who used them only ever respected inducing fear, and thus everything is denominated in them.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


So... Be... Non denominational. If you want. 1dunno1
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we are here, because of ... Wanting.
Is that true?
Wanting... To be. Fear of non existence. threads seam ... 1dunno1
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No. You could make everything dependent on cheese if you wanted due to the sophistication philosophy has given our rhetoric. That only means that people quickly grow jaded with insincere verbal appeals and nothing convinces or changes hearts any longer. Philosophy and rhetoric and the people who used them only ever respected inducing fear, and thus everything is denominated in them.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


So... Be... Non denominational. If you want. 1dunno1
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Why practice Ahimsa when I can practice inaction?
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lol
why practice at all?
To be better?
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grinning
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hihugs
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Good Day Ladies!

So nice to have you around. Truly!

Excellent thoughts abound.
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grinning
 Quoting: 1412



hihugs
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Good Day Ladies!

So nice to have you around. Truly!

Excellent thoughts abound.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita



Happy day to you, lovey....hf
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
under wandering stars I've grown,
by myself, but not alone...

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needs, wants, desires, compulsions, cravings all birth in fertile soil of fear (illusion), lack and poverty of mind. and failure of presence.

the obvious truth so many refuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79966246


I feel so much truth in this...and a slight possibility of interpretation in polarity.

Though each seeks balance.

These things when transmuted to Love or planted in Love - in a sense of giving and reciprocity create synergy.

What seeds we plant grow.

Yet we can tend our garden and even find the medicine in the "weeds."

Appreciate your thoughts.
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Sungaze, I've been listening to this one while puttering around my Lily Pad--





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I'm tellin' ya straight up, the first time I listened to it, I could feel my heart center drinking it up...and I mean, my chest was moving in the motion like it was thirstily drinking. It was such a strange and wonderous feeling!
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Just bookmarked this, thx for posting!! Am not a musician but I do know a lil' something about tone/frequency/vibration scales and their correspondence.

Being a scratch-the-surface number tard also, I have this thing w/ the number 8. Always have since I was a child, hehe!
hf
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

“How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire
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Sungaze, I've been listening to this one while puttering around my Lily Pad--





[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I'm tellin' ya straight up, the first time I listened to it, I could feel my heart center drinking it up...and I mean, my chest was moving in the motion like it was thirstily drinking. It was such a strange and wonderous feeling!
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Just bookmarked this, thx for posting!! Am not a musician but I do know a lil' something about tone/frequency/vibration scales and their correspondence.

Being a scratch-the-surface number tard also, I have this thing w/ the number 8. Always have since I was a child, hehe!
hf
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia



hf....I hope you are doing well!

It was really funny and odd to feel my energy body working through my own body....lol, I hope you share if you have some kind of reaction to the sound, too.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
under wandering stars I've grown,
by myself, but not alone...

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Deplorable Zenobia

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Sungaze, I've been listening to this one while puttering around my Lily Pad--





[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I'm tellin' ya straight up, the first time I listened to it, I could feel my heart center drinking it up...and I mean, my chest was moving in the motion like it was thirstily drinking. It was such a strange and wonderous feeling!
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Just bookmarked this, thx for posting!! Am not a musician but I do know a lil' something about tone/frequency/vibration scales and their correspondence.

Being a scratch-the-surface number tard also, I have this thing w/ the number 8. Always have since I was a child, hehe!
hf
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia



hf....I hope you are doing well!

It was really funny and odd to feel my energy body working through my own body....lol, I hope you share if you have some kind of reaction to the sound, too.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Was busy w/ hard chores this a.m., pretty active. Ate lunch and listening to this as I surf around the cyber bar here.

Feel great and relaxed despite old tired aching muscles. Like I believe in aromatherapy, I also believe in music therapy.

Only thing I foresee rest of the day is maybe a nap and cold beer later.
hf
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

“How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire
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needs, wants, desires, compulsions, cravings all birth in fertile soil of fear (illusion), lack and poverty of mind. and failure of presence.

the obvious truth so many refuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79966246


I feel so much truth in this...and a slight possibility of interpretation in polarity.

Though each seeks balance.

These things when transmuted to Love or planted in Love - in a sense of giving and reciprocity create synergy.

What seeds we plant grow.

Yet we can tend our garden and even find the medicine in the "weeds."

Appreciate your thoughts.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


peace and wisdom.
Journey well.
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needs, wants, desires, compulsions, cravings all birth in fertile soil of fear (illusion), lack and poverty of mind. and failure of presence.

the obvious truth so many refuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79966246


I feel so much truth in this...and a slight possibility of interpretation in polarity.

Though each seeks balance.

These things when transmuted to Love or planted in Love - in a sense of giving and reciprocity create synergy.

What seeds we plant grow.

Yet we can tend our garden and even find the medicine in the "weeds."

Appreciate your thoughts.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


peace and wisdom.
Journey well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79396109


hf
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we are here, because of ... Wanting.
Is that true?
Wanting... To be. Fear of non existence. threads seam ... 1dunno1
 Quoting: a c 41950329


No. You could make everything dependent on cheese if you wanted due to the sophistication philosophy has given our rhetoric. That only means that people quickly grow jaded with insincere verbal appeals and nothing convinces or changes hearts any longer. Philosophy and rhetoric and the people who used them only ever respected inducing fear, and thus everything is denominated in them.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


So... Be... Non denominational. If you want. 1dunno1
 Quoting: kid2 41950329


Why practice Ahimsa when I can practice inaction?
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


Potato/PotAhto
~Newton's Own~

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Morning all!
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

#Notmypresident.
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Morning all!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Morning!

How is your wife today?

Arnica is amazing...

I need to get some....grow it.
~Newton's Own~

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Morning all!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Morning!

How is your wife today?

Arnica is amazing...

I need to get some....grow it.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


She is doing much better, thank you for asking.

A little rest goes a long way and ice packs for pain.

She is moving around much better.

I've kinda pampered her a bit, lol.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

#Notmypresident.
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Morning all!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Morning!

How is your wife today?

Arnica is amazing...

I need to get some....grow it.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


She is doing much better, thank you for asking.

A little rest goes a long way and ice packs for pain.

She is moving around much better.

I've kinda pampered her a bit, lol.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Nice! Good Man!
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sailer or rower
surfer or swimmer
rider or resistor
judo, aikido, juijitsu or striking

wu wei and ahimsa or
satan, adversarial motion. current. dc current requiring...
resistance, "omega".

space, abyss and wholeness or physical life.

the perpetual duality
spawned by the first seperation. active thought from ein sof. the first 'thing', thought, seperated cnsciousness, being'.

increasing to sound, light, etc.

"what IS?"


whatever you answer, you can call it you, as you are included in that it that IS.
know thyself

ayin yesh

all allegory and echo for
balance. the truth in all things


who has mastered the art of the balance?
the global simultanous victim- rulers





GLP