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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76653433 United States 01/21/2021 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employees, you suck. Yes, we look at your social media. Yes, we judge your outward appearance, especially if customer facing. We know how to spot malcontents and lazy dogs. You have to be able to stand up straight, speak proper English, present yourself professionally, and show up to do it on time on schedule. Don't come to work stoned, give it your best effort, and don't melt when people need you to occasionally push on the gas pedal. Go back and take a hard look in the mirror if you can't seem to get hired. Employers, you suck too. Cut the shit, cut the red tape, cut the 14 forms and 17 interviews, pay a decent wage, especially if you want people to bust ass for you. We want the vacation time and health insurance upfront, because we know there's a good chance we'll get shit canned before those come due, for no fault of our own. And don't be a dick to people. The days of whipping and scaring employees into working harder is over. Oh, and be realistic. You're going to have to train people. Bring people in with potential and train them up. You get more value that way in the long run, and really nobody has the kind of experience you're asking for anyway. |
SugarSand
User ID: 77504359 United States 01/21/2021 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SugarSand That's true. I have many unpopular opinions, and how I feel about private sector corporate life is one. I advise all the girls I know - if they have no idea what they want to do with their lives - to go to any affordable college and get a degree in whatever pleases them, and then go for whatever they can in the corporate world. HR, Accounting, IT, QC, Audit .. whatever. I've been in corporate life for 25 years, and there is no end in sight. I have co-workers pushing 80, still happily coming in, and still valued by the company. If you increase the bottom line, you are valued by the company. That's the way to go for average kids, boys and girls, who can sit still long enough. If the company/profession has government contracts then for women (and those who can check "disadvantaged" boxes) it is often better for women than for the men If your profession unfortunately doesn't have these contracts, good luck. Corporate life can be very good for many women, as they may offer maternity leave and other perks I'm a software engineer. I've been working in the private, corporate sector writing code for money since 1998. No government contracts. Business. People work for money. Business runs on money. I don't know what jobs BESIDES government jobs, that don't respect the bottom line more than anything. Color, gender, doesn't matter. The bottom line matters. If I didn't make them more money than I cost them, I wouldn't have a job, that's for sure. Ah, but many, many businesses have government contracts-- they need to meet diversity quotas-- so if one fits what they need, they are making money for the business just by being there That's not the norm and it can't be the excuse. I don't know what state one would have to live in to use the prevalence of federal hiring practices as an excuse not to work, but that's a sad state that can't support itself without those contracts. In 25 years, I worked at only one place that dealt with government contracts. I wasn't on those accounts. Those guys were ... Chinese, actually. I saw that ... those diversity quotas ... when I lived in states with heavy government contracts and the like. Those places sucked, and those jobs sucked I'd never sell myself short like that. Don't get me wrong, they pay well and COULD be lifetime situations ... but ... federal jobs arent real jobs ... only private sector jobs are real jobs and should be counted getting a federal job is no different than getting a job at walmart ... drug test check, boxes checked I'm talking about real stuff. who cares if federal jobs need boxes checked? Who the hell would want to work for the government when there is so much opportunity in the private sector? I guess people who refuse to move for better work? When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
Armchair General
The Only 5-star General on GLP User ID: 48462738 United States 01/21/2021 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79387251 If the company/profession has government contracts then for women (and those who can check "disadvantaged" boxes) it is often better for women than for the men If your profession unfortunately doesn't have these contracts, good luck. Corporate life can be very good for many women, as they may offer maternity leave and other perks I'm a software engineer. I've been working in the private, corporate sector writing code for money since 1998. No government contracts. Business. People work for money. Business runs on money. I don't know what jobs BESIDES government jobs, that don't respect the bottom line more than anything. Color, gender, doesn't matter. The bottom line matters. If I didn't make them more money than I cost them, I wouldn't have a job, that's for sure. Ah, but many, many businesses have government contracts-- they need to meet diversity quotas-- so if one fits what they need, they are making money for the business just by being there That's not the norm and it can't be the excuse. I don't know what state one would have to live in to use the prevalence of federal hiring practices as an excuse not to work, but that's a sad state that can't support itself without those contracts. In 25 years, I worked at only one place that dealt with government contracts. I wasn't on those accounts. Those guys were ... Chinese, actually. I saw that ... those diversity quotas ... when I lived in states with heavy government contracts and the like. Those places sucked, and those jobs sucked I'd never sell myself short like that. Don't get me wrong, they pay well and COULD be lifetime situations ... but ... federal jobs arent real jobs ... only private sector jobs are real jobs and should be counted getting a federal job is no different than getting a job at walmart ... drug test check, boxes checked I'm talking about real stuff. who cares if federal jobs need boxes checked? Who the hell would want to work for the government when there is so much opportunity in the private sector? I guess people who refuse to move for better work? Unlike much of the private sector, Uncle Sam still provides pensions... -Armchair General- "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." -General of the Army Douglas MacArthur "I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major General and during that period, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC - 1933 Pronouns: Sir/General/That Bastard |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79770349 United States 01/21/2021 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the early years of Steve Job's career, he would go into meetings with potential investors barefoot and smelling like a hippie...because well, he was a hippie...and he became a billionaire... Quoting: BRIEF Hippies did not stink. They showered daily just like everyone else. They just wore different clothes, hair, beards etc. Of course some didn't bathe regularly and stink just like people today, but the majority were clean just like people today. The "dirty hippy" was a myth and a lie because the mainstream idiots hated them. I'm old. I was there. I know. Not true The liberal town I grew up in always had hippies living in the park With dred locks and they stunk!!!! They always tried to enter the library where I worked The library banned them from entering because they stunk up the library !!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79770349 United States 01/21/2021 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the early years of Steve Job's career, he would go into meetings with potential investors barefoot and smelling like a hippie...because well, he was a hippie...and he became a billionaire... Quoting: BRIEF Hippies did not stink. They showered daily just like everyone else. They just wore different clothes, hair, beards etc. Of course some didn't bathe regularly and stink just like people today, but the majority were clean just like people today. The "dirty hippy" was a myth and a lie because the mainstream idiots hated them. I'm old. I was there. I know. Not true The liberal town I grew up in always had hippies living in the park With dred locks and they stunk!!!! They always tried to enter the library where I worked The library banned them from entering because they stunk up the library !!!!! There hippies were very dirty , lived in the woods In the summer they would relocate to Arizona They were dirty and many were full of lice When one walked through the park could see many sitting around picking lice from each others hair This is true I grew up in a town that was frequented by hippies The town had big hippy riots in the 60 and 70 s I am told |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 01/21/2021 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fill out and online form, send in a resume, come to our office and fill in another application exactly like the one you just did, Quoting: Lioness and cubs Have an advanced degree with a 3.8 or better gpa; Have 5-10 years of experience; Know at least 5 obscure, brand new programs at an expert level; Have perfect credit, no offenses and 10 glowing references; Give us access to your social media, bank statements, medical records, and what time you wipe your ass in the morning; Be able to work nights, weekends, overtime, travel at moment’s notice at your own expense, take zero time off, ever, for any reason, Pass a medical exam, drug test, a personality test, a skills test, and an ass kissing test; Be a person of color, immigrant, or in need of an H1B visa, Sign a statement you’ll never sue us for any reason, including sexual harassment or a hostile or unsafe workplace, or unlawful termination; Oh, and we pay $10.50 an hour and the job is temporary, here sign this form that you won’t apply for unemployment when we lay you off with zero notice or reason. And that’s just to work at McDonald’s lol |
SugarSand
User ID: 77504359 United States 01/21/2021 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And an entire generation would rather have a chip on their shoulder and live in relative poverty than get over the fact that no one owes them a pension. This is one of those things where we can't have it both ways, because it's not sustainable. Somehow a whole lot of people in the private sector retire without pensions. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74076701 United States 01/21/2021 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have no direction take Bach essence wild oat every day for a year. I took walnut during the obama years and was able to release a lot of things that weren’t working. Don’t resist this idea. It’s cheap and all you do is take the drops 4 times a day; you don’t even have to analyze, work or do anything else. Honestly... you’re doing the same thing over and over and getting nowhere. You need to figure it out. Break out of the matrix before it devours you. The fact that you’re looking for a job might even indicate you hate yourself. Putting up with employers, resumes, interviews and all that crap is borderline abusive. You might try holly to kickstart yourself. It’s for hate and will help you to love yourself more and protect you from negativity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38548988 United States 01/21/2021 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey op...if you're for real, I have a gig that you can do from anywhere...just requires some hustle and initiative. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41770882 Could net 5-10K in a month or two. ok hit me with it Got a shitload of brand new solar equipment. Want to see if a distributor in solar would be interested in buying the entire lot at a discount. Same with fasteners///screws, nuts etc. Lot of cold calling, but if it hits, you take 20%. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79863386 United States 01/21/2021 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been unemployed for about 9 months now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722 Yes majority was during the covid crap. I've filled out hundreds of applications, sent my resume to hundreds of places, nada. I see the same job postings day after day. I go to places in person, i ask about job postings online. I am met with snarky attitudes, i am told that if they are interested they will call me. I am also told by some places that they are not hiring at all(despite an online job posting), or an outside company does the hiring. Fake jobs, fake life. Also I spoke with an unemployment counselor who works with the city, he told me currently there are way more people out of work than jobs available. What does this mean? hundreds if not thousands of applicants for each job, and super picky employers At this point getting a job is like winning the lottery. Employers want cheap labor. Biden not only allowing illegals to swarm in but he also give them housing, Medical and other perks. How can Trump beat that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 01/21/2021 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No jobs. Quoting: SugarSand Women have it easy. Well, make like a woman and sell your ass. Oh, wait ... not only is that not easy, it's not worth anything anyway. Damn. Lament lack of jobs. I know a woman who refuses to work.. or drive or anything She wants a man to drive her around, buy her food, buy her clothes, pay for her place.. etc For what? Women that do not work really are useless sex is not a skill There are actually men who love having their wives at home to cook and clean and for companionship. They do a lot together and travel. Not all people have to work. Sounds like you have sour grapes. Actually who cares what husbands and wives choose to do. Work. Don’t work. Doesn’t matter as long as the two are happy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79387251 United States 01/21/2021 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79387251 If the company/profession has government contracts then for women (and those who can check "disadvantaged" boxes) it is often better for women than for the men If your profession unfortunately doesn't have these contracts, good luck. Corporate life can be very good for many women, as they may offer maternity leave and other perks I'm a software engineer. I've been working in the private, corporate sector writing code for money since 1998. No government contracts. Business. People work for money. Business runs on money. I don't know what jobs BESIDES government jobs, that don't respect the bottom line more than anything. Color, gender, doesn't matter. The bottom line matters. If I didn't make them more money than I cost them, I wouldn't have a job, that's for sure. Ah, but many, many businesses have government contracts-- they need to meet diversity quotas-- so if one fits what they need, they are making money for the business just by being there That's not the norm and it can't be the excuse. I don't know what state one would have to live in to use the prevalence of federal hiring practices as an excuse not to work, but that's a sad state that can't support itself without those contracts. In 25 years, I worked at only one place that dealt with government contracts. I wasn't on those accounts. Those guys were ... Chinese, actually. I saw that ... those diversity quotas ... when I lived in states with heavy government contracts and the like. Those places sucked, and those jobs sucked I'd never sell myself short like that. Don't get me wrong, they pay well and COULD be lifetime situations ... but ... federal jobs arent real jobs ... only private sector jobs are real jobs and should be counted getting a federal job is no different than getting a job at walmart ... drug test check, boxes checked I'm talking about real stuff. who cares if federal jobs need boxes checked? Who the hell would want to work for the government when there is so much opportunity in the private sector? I guess people who refuse to move for better work? I think you've missed the point. Many, many private corporations have federal contracts. These are not government jobs but private sector jobs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 01/21/2021 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No jobs. Quoting: SugarSand Women have it easy. Well, make like a woman and sell your ass. Oh, wait ... not only is that not easy, it's not worth anything anyway. Damn. Lament lack of jobs. I know a woman who refuses to work.. or drive or anything She wants a man to drive her around, buy her food, buy her clothes, pay for her place.. etc For what? Women that do not work really are useless sex is not a skill I know a lot of bum men too, milking disability and the like. What is your point? Do you want to work with someone who doesnt want to work? Just let those people alone. Exactly. Someone is jealous of another who doesn’t have to work. Big deal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 01/21/2021 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have no direction take Bach essence wild oat every day for a year. I took walnut during the obama years and was able to release a lot of things that weren’t working. Don’t resist this idea. It’s cheap and all you do is take the drops 4 times a day; you don’t even have to analyze, work or do anything else. Honestly... you’re doing the same thing over and over and getting nowhere. You need to figure it out. Break out of the matrix before it devours you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74076701 The fact that you’re looking for a job might even indicate you hate yourself. Putting up with employers, resumes, interviews and all that crap is borderline abusive. You might try holly to kickstart yourself. It’s for hate and will help you to love yourself more and protect you from negativity. Very interesting. You should start a thread in this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79862009 United States 01/22/2021 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are stuck in a civilian world of job hunting that plainly just sux. As long as you are not a felon, have a US citizenship, and can get a simple CompTia security + cert, there are millions of jobs waiting for you in the DOD contractor field working for defense contractor companies. Easiest I terviees, no hyperbole of race, better money, and millions of jobs always ready to be filled. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77986906 I guess that doesn't apply to me since I don't know what a simple CompTia security + cert or a I terviees is. But I'm glad there is a field that isn't hit by this job malaise! |
Vision Thing
User ID: 79862009 United States 01/22/2021 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are stuck in a civilian world of job hunting that plainly just sux. As long as you are not a felon, have a US citizenship, and can get a simple CompTia security + cert, there are millions of jobs waiting for you in the DOD contractor field working for defense contractor companies. Easiest I terviees, no hyperbole of race, better money, and millions of jobs always ready to be filled. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77986906 I guess that doesn't apply to me since I don't know what a simple CompTia security + cert or a I terviees is. But I'm glad there is a field that isn't hit by this job malaise! That was me, not logged in. Good morning GLP. Just woke up |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 01/22/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the early years of Steve Job's career, he would go into meetings with potential investors barefoot and smelling like a hippie...because well, he was a hippie...and he became a billionaire... Quoting: BRIEF fairytale lies LOL He was a Fruitarian for a long time...I would ask you to read his biography, but it doesn't have smilies and colorful icons... And he died at 56. Not much time to enjoy the fruits of his labor. He was a very pissed off person. And that is bad for health. He had severe emotional problems...Probably because he never had a sensible diet...Diet is extremely important for mental health... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79255305 United States 01/22/2021 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here comes the wall of text: My husband and son are entering this now-AGAIN. Husband and son were told day after inauguration their plant was shutting down. I'm sick to my stomach; can't sleep. Husband is 57. He'll be up against stiff competition. And my son is driving on a RDP, so now he will have to reapply for a new one, once he gets another job, and that takes time when all the state DMV offices are closed due to coviid and then informal hearing officers are only working 2-3 days a week out here and not even THAT when they shut down for coviid. So I will end up his PT taxi 2x a day for whatever job he gets until he can reapply and gets an updated rdp. I'm depressed thinking about it. We can't afford Cobra insurance or even BamBamCare if we are to weather this layoff. We are going to see if we can find some catastrophic if the new admin. doesn't ruin that again too. We are just gutted. Was afraid this was coming with this new administration. IMO: Raise corp. tax rates and some of these smaller plants will combine or just close the doors. And our state just showed close to a million new UE claims just within the last couple of weeks, i.e. election. So I'm thinking this is just the start. Hubby probably could move to another state and get a job, but IMO it's not worth it to move too quickly as we've learned NO GUARANTEES the job will last, not nowadays. We've learned the hard way, just stay put and drive a bit farther; esp. with a great depression looming. We have land, we can do some homesteading here for food. I am fighting for SSDI after close to 40 years of FT employment. I'm on my 2nd hearing here soon. Prob. get denied again. I have CRPS and hobble due to multiple surgeries on right foot, double fused ankle, no fibula, rod, etc. It's painful, pain meds. really don't help much, and mobility is limited. Nerve damage and chronic spasms. Joy. I rely on my husband. We'll have no recurring income outside husband's UE (and our savings). I'll be 62 this May so I could take early retirement but no medical and you know they'll cut my income significantly if I take it early. No painless solutions. Then the temp. agency will try to send my son to whatever job they can send him out on (he was 4 weeks from being hired on permanently). Out here it seems you HAVE to go the temp. to perm. route for most of the jobs (unless contract jobs from get-go). Anyway, he can't even rely on UE to get him through until a perm. job w/decent pay comes up as they'll deny it since they offered him that $12 an hr. job 30 miles away. Since I volunteered (no bus service, we are rural) to be my son's PT taxi until he gets permanent FT work and updated RDP, I've had to tell him I have constraints, will only drive 20-30 miles one way if the pay is there...and even that is a stretch 'cuz that is 2x a day! It normally takes about 1 month to get the updated RDP back from the state once you see the hearing officer, so I'd have to drive for a month minimum, longer if they shut us down again, last time, it was 3 months! So, his job opportunities are more limited yet. The job he just lost was only 15 minutes from home, paid well, had great bens. I told my son he might have to become a 1.800 Psychic and work from home :) He never took computer classes, he's my GED/ADD kid...but he sure knows how to work his phone! And wouldn't you know, my husband was scheduled to finally make it back to the day shift! A couple years ago he went through hell finding another position, he was like a rolling stone gathering no moss, 3 jobs in 18 months; but only because one company's contract was bought out by another, well then he gets this job, and guess what, orig. co. sells to the co. he works for now, and now they are shutting down. And he's back to square one. I feel so badly for him and my son right now. Yes, we sit here conspiring on WAH jobs too. I feel for everyone looking! I know how hard it is. I think it's harder when you are better educated and older, than not. I had to dumb down my resume year's ago just to start back over at the absolute BOTTOM (due to my age for sure). I don't think I could have gone down any further :) I'm not above doing any job if it pays the bills and is legal. IMO: There is honor/integrity in putting your pride aside to get your foot in the door and many times it works. I don't know that I would do it again though in that precise field. I did move up in the co. after 18 months to a management position, but to do so ate a lot of crow, bit my tongue and turned my cheek a million times. The emotional/mental/people part was harder to deal with than the work. Yeah, I will never forget; I think I got PTSD from the experience, don't worry some of you guys will too :) Just joking. Anyway, I'm meandering and rambling so, in close, good luck to everyone in this situation! Thanks for reading my rant. |
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Irish eyes
User ID: 78958478 United States 01/25/2021 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Circus freaks need not apply...If you have ink and rods protruding from your skin, then you are limited to the number of circuses and freak shows that may hire you... Not around here. The gas station hired a clerk and it's obviously a late 40's male with a stuffed bra, a wig, and eye make up. Fucking grotesque. Very conservative county here which makes me wonder why we are importing Babylon to the sticks Irish eyes |
Irish eyes
User ID: 78958478 United States 01/25/2021 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been doing a big home renovation for almost a month. Multiple window guys bailed before even making it to the job. Trying to find both drywall hangers and finishers has been beyond difficult.i have had so many no shows and none call backs it's mind boggling. I have talked to so many people over the last month that I just want to pay what they ask to come to the job. I'd say 1/3 actually showed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72784507 This is 2021 most of the talented people in this business are either retired or dead and the quality of work being done now is pathetic. I'm semi retired myself and still take small projects (when I can find them) I wouldn't dare take anything big for the reasons you indicate above. Last Edited by Irish eyes on 01/25/2021 06:00 PM Irish eyes |