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(OP) User ID: 79788249 United States 01/19/2021 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know there are lots of other vets on GLP. By all means, share your story. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78445863 United States 01/19/2021 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ethical person, if they can walk well enough, should not use handicap. Yes, I know that some diseases and disorders ebb and flow, so use it when you need it and let people who need it use it when you don't. My MIL had MS, so she had a placard. However, she would go into remission for months and would STILL use that placard because she had a disease - people just couldn't see it, was HER excuse. These handicap spots are not your consolation prize for being ill, they are for people who have difficulty with mobility. You should be the judge of that, not others. However, the sad truth is that most people with placards allow their entire families to use them. I've seen it with friends and family members. If your son is driving your car to grab milk at the store, I bet he will slip into a handicapped spot. Like I said, too many people look at them as the consolation prize for being handicapped, and then they spread that perk around. |
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(OP) User ID: 79788249 United States 01/19/2021 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vets went to war for profit these days, or for the ability to say you're a vet it seems... quit playin' victim... “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77635505 United States 01/19/2021 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ethical person, if they can walk well enough, should not use handicap. Yes, I know that some diseases and disorders ebb and flow, so use it when you need it and let people who need it use it when you don't. Quoting: GA Girl My MIL had MS, so she had a placard. However, she would go into remission for months and would STILL use that placard because she had a disease - people just couldn't see it, was HER excuse. These handicap spots are not your consolation prize for being ill, they are for people who have difficulty with mobility. You should be the judge of that, not others. However, the sad truth is that most people with placards allow their entire families to use them. I've seen it with friends and family members. If your son is driving your car to grab milk at the store, I bet he will slip into a handicapped spot. Like I said, too many people look at them as the consolation prize for being handicapped, and then they spread that perk around. Unless the handicap person is in the vehicle when parking in a handicap parking spot, then that person is guilty of abusing the placard privilege. The police can actually ticket the driver, take the handicap placard, and tow the vehicle. The handicap person would have to petition the state to have their placard returned and there could be a fee and fine attached. Overall, it could cost thousands because someone was too lazy to walk an extra 100 steps. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996452 United States 01/19/2021 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vets went to war for profit these days, or for the ability to say you're a vet it seems... quit playin' victim... Yea, they love to say they're a vet when anything bad comes their way. And it's common to go into the military for easy money and life benefits. |
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User ID: 79945266 United States 01/19/2021 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was born with damaged nervous system. If I sit sill, no one would notice, but it I walk or talk it shows by my drunken walk, shaky hands and speech impairment. But even when i went on Disability I refused to get a handicap tag or or placard. |
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(OP) User ID: 79788249 United States 01/19/2021 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ethical person, if they can walk well enough, should not use handicap. Yes, I know that some diseases and disorders ebb and flow, so use it when you need it and let people who need it use it when you don't. Quoting: GA Girl My MIL had MS, so she had a placard. However, she would go into remission for months and would STILL use that placard because she had a disease - people just couldn't see it, was HER excuse. These handicap spots are not your consolation prize for being ill, they are for people who have difficulty with mobility. You should be the judge of that, not others. However, the sad truth is that most people with placards allow their entire families to use them. I've seen it with friends and family members. If your son is driving your car to grab milk at the store, I bet he will slip into a handicapped spot. Like I said, too many people look at them as the consolation prize for being handicapped, and then they spread that perk around. Unless the handicap person is in the vehicle when parking in a handicap parking spot, then that person is guilty of abusing the placard privilege. The police can actually ticket the driver, take the handicap placard, and tow the vehicle. The handicap person would have to petition the state to have their placard returned and there could be a fee and fine attached. Overall, it could cost thousands because someone was too lazy to walk an extra 100 steps. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996452 United States 01/19/2021 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vets went to war for profit these days, or for the ability to say you're a vet it seems... quit playin' victim... You really would have been fine keeping your damn mouth shut. Weren't you fighting for freedom and the constitution? You can either take that back or let me speak freely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996452 United States 01/19/2021 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vets went to war for profit these days, or for the ability to say you're a vet it seems... quit playin' victim... You really would have been fine keeping your damn mouth shut. Weren't you fighting for freedom and the constitution? You can either take that back or let me speak freely. You can either take that back and let me speak freely or be a tyrant. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78445863 United States 01/19/2021 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ethical person, if they can walk well enough, should not use handicap. Yes, I know that some diseases and disorders ebb and flow, so use it when you need it and let people who need it use it when you don't. Quoting: GA Girl My MIL had MS, so she had a placard. However, she would go into remission for months and would STILL use that placard because she had a disease - people just couldn't see it, was HER excuse. These handicap spots are not your consolation prize for being ill, they are for people who have difficulty with mobility. You should be the judge of that, not others. However, the sad truth is that most people with placards allow their entire families to use them. I've seen it with friends and family members. If your son is driving your car to grab milk at the store, I bet he will slip into a handicapped spot. Like I said, too many people look at them as the consolation prize for being handicapped, and then they spread that perk around. Unless the handicap person is in the vehicle when parking in a handicap parking spot, then that person is guilty of abusing the placard privilege. The police can actually ticket the driver, take the handicap placard, and tow the vehicle. The handicap person would have to petition the state to have their placard returned and there could be a fee and fine attached. Overall, it could cost thousands because someone was too lazy to walk an extra 100 steps. Absolutely! The issue is that when a person sees someone park in the handicapped spots and then spritely hop out and walk on up to the store, and they are accosted for it, they invariably later complain about how not all diseases/disorders are visible. Well, they can't have it both ways. Don't use the placard if you are having a good day. If you do, don't complain about people asking you why you are parking in a handicapped spot. The people stopping you are actually the ones protecting you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69356559 United States 01/19/2021 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could be. However the thread title does highlight an issue that does occur and is relevant to those who have personal experience. Just for the data: Not a vet Still relatively young Not a choice Life sometimes provides us with circumstances beyond our control Handicap placards are currently not an issue for me. It is in my best interest, as well as others, to forgo driving anymore |
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(OP) User ID: 79788249 United States 01/19/2021 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79086114 United States 01/19/2021 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People need to mind their own fucking business, I deal with this. Brain condition that causes all sorts of irrational havoc. Some days I can almost pass as ok, other days my legs don’t work, or my speech is off, etc. If it’s a good day, I’ll use a normal spot, if it’s bad, I’ll use the reserved. It’s not someone else’s job to gauge that for me, nor would I them. Life is hard enough with conditions, no need to add others bullshit to it. |
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(OP) User ID: 79788249 United States 01/19/2021 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ethical person, if they can walk well enough, should not use handicap. Yes, I know that some diseases and disorders ebb and flow, so use it when you need it and let people who need it use it when you don't. Quoting: GA Girl My MIL had MS, so she had a placard. However, she would go into remission for months and would STILL use that placard because she had a disease - people just couldn't see it, was HER excuse. These handicap spots are not your consolation prize for being ill, they are for people who have difficulty with mobility. You should be the judge of that, not others. However, the sad truth is that most people with placards allow their entire families to use them. I've seen it with friends and family members. If your son is driving your car to grab milk at the store, I bet he will slip into a handicapped spot. Like I said, too many people look at them as the consolation prize for being handicapped, and then they spread that perk around. Unless the handicap person is in the vehicle when parking in a handicap parking spot, then that person is guilty of abusing the placard privilege. The police can actually ticket the driver, take the handicap placard, and tow the vehicle. The handicap person would have to petition the state to have their placard returned and there could be a fee and fine attached. Overall, it could cost thousands because someone was too lazy to walk an extra 100 steps. Absolutely! The issue is that when a person sees someone park in the handicapped spots and then spritely hop out and walk on up to the store, and they are accosted for it, they invariably later complain about how not all diseases/disorders are visible. Well, they can't have it both ways. Don't use the placard if you are having a good day. If you do, don't complain about people asking you why you are parking in a handicapped spot. The people stopping you are actually the ones protecting you. I do this out of respect...Even if I'm having a so, so day. I try NOT to use it.. There is always someone out there that needs it more than me. That being said. There have been times I have walked into a store, and not walked out. I also had one time when I went to a medical appt, and pulled into the only HC spot avail only to be labeled "wheelchair only". I moved my car to a regular spot, and as I got out, some lady pulled right in with her caddy and started walking to the door. I went ballistic on her...that I just pulled out of that and she pulled right in....That it is for wheelchair users only.... She told me she was only picking up a RX... I told her she was the reason we get a bad rap. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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(OP) User ID: 79788249 United States 01/19/2021 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could be. However the thread title does highlight an issue that does occur and is relevant to those who have personal experience. Just for the data: Not a vet Still relatively young Not a choice Life sometimes provides us with circumstances beyond our control Handicap placards are currently not an issue for me. It is in my best interest, as well as others, to forgo driving anymore That sucks... “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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(OP) User ID: 79788249 United States 01/19/2021 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But most of us just want to live our lives the best we can without having to prove anything. Quoting: EllenRipley People don't need to prove anything to anyone. Some people are just assholes Last Edited by Relativity on 01/19/2021 08:57 PM “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
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Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States 01/19/2021 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dammit. The deaf don't get a placard, but they have to to read lips thru a mask. How do I know that.. "Shout louder!!" For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
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(OP) User ID: 79788249 United States 01/19/2021 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dammit. Quoting: Trained Noticer The deaf don't get a placard, but they have to to read lips thru a mask. How do I know that.. "Shout louder!!" My dad has that same problem!! Last Edited by Relativity on 01/19/2021 09:02 PM “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79645281 Canada 01/19/2021 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meh, the parking tag thing is absurdly abused. Plus it's kinda dumb to have a ton of them at the mall where everyone has to walk a fair distance anyway. That's not even getting into the bullshit lawsuits by that scammy shithead lawyer in California (who was not disabled, and made the costs for small business insanely high). I have a hard time understanding what anyone says without lip reading and with everyone wearing masks....I can relate somewhat (no one 'looks' hard of hearing or deaf) but the parking thing isn't a good battle to fight. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79645281 Canada 01/19/2021 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People need to mind their own fucking business, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79086114 I deal with this. Brain condition that causes all sorts of irrational havoc. Some days I can almost pass as ok, other days my legs don’t work, or my speech is off, etc. If it’s a good day, I’ll use a normal spot, if it’s bad, I’ll use the reserved. It’s not someone else’s job to gauge that for me, nor would I them. Life is hard enough with conditions, no need to add others bullshit to it. I never bother strangers for that reason - no one should (unless it's a young woman trotting spritely in high heels or something, and even then....) But family, who I know have abused it? I give them royal shit for it. |